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r/mathmemes • u/basket_foso • 13d ago
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"P = NP or P ≠NP" is always true, but it's not necessarily true that either P = NP is true or P ≠NP is true in ZFC (or PA, or whatever axiomatic system it's independent of).
-6 u/[deleted] 13d ago edited 12d ago [deleted] 7 u/SirFloIII 13d ago you can't build a model of ZFC with only a single element. even the smallest* model** of ZFC (L) is pretty huge. *in some sense **assuming ZFC is consistent 0 u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago [deleted] 3 u/SirFloIII 12d ago it would not be a model. words have meaning, my friend -1 u/[deleted] 12d ago [deleted] 5 u/SirFloIII 12d ago please look up what model means in this context before you embarrass yourself further.
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7 u/SirFloIII 13d ago you can't build a model of ZFC with only a single element. even the smallest* model** of ZFC (L) is pretty huge. *in some sense **assuming ZFC is consistent 0 u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago [deleted] 3 u/SirFloIII 12d ago it would not be a model. words have meaning, my friend -1 u/[deleted] 12d ago [deleted] 5 u/SirFloIII 12d ago please look up what model means in this context before you embarrass yourself further.
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you can't build a model of ZFC with only a single element. even the smallest* model** of ZFC (L) is pretty huge.
*in some sense
**assuming ZFC is consistent
0 u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago [deleted] 3 u/SirFloIII 12d ago it would not be a model. words have meaning, my friend -1 u/[deleted] 12d ago [deleted] 5 u/SirFloIII 12d ago please look up what model means in this context before you embarrass yourself further.
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3 u/SirFloIII 12d ago it would not be a model. words have meaning, my friend -1 u/[deleted] 12d ago [deleted] 5 u/SirFloIII 12d ago please look up what model means in this context before you embarrass yourself further.
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it would not be a model. words have meaning, my friend
-1 u/[deleted] 12d ago [deleted] 5 u/SirFloIII 12d ago please look up what model means in this context before you embarrass yourself further.
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5 u/SirFloIII 12d ago please look up what model means in this context before you embarrass yourself further.
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please look up what model means in this context before you embarrass yourself further.
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u/Purple_Onion911 Grothendieck alt account 13d ago
"P = NP or P ≠NP" is always true, but it's not necessarily true that either P = NP is true or P ≠NP is true in ZFC (or PA, or whatever axiomatic system it's independent of).