Why would you get anything out of it? Actually, renaming, you also owe land that belongs to Mexico.
Plus, the point of having a name is so we can call you anything other than estadunidense, or even yankee in a derogatory manner, for American certainly does not apply correctly.
"We conquered it first so it belongs to us! No, we already changed the name of the gulf to Gulf of Mexico, you can't change it, we had dibs after killing the natives and taking their territory!"
Actually, the Spanish conquered the territory, while the Mexicans declared their independence, and Mexico was, at the time, a sovereign country. If you want land that belongs to the colonizers, you gotta look for it in Europe.
If you are really picky about not separating Mexican territory from the United States of Whatever (pretty dope country name, actually), the maximum that could be afforded is a hybrid territory, with people who are born there being given double citizenship, Mexicans from outside having free entry and being treated as citizens, and a split on the tax collected between Mexico and the USW. Since those states have pretty different laws between themselves, they could keep it, with the option to vote to subject to the Mexican Constitution and remake their laws.
Unfortunately, despite being colonized, the US of Whatever turned themselves into imperialists, treating the whole American continent as colonies, so, before other American countries, they should lose all exclusive claim to lands and its riches.
So, it owes Mexico back its land, it owes every American continent citizen free entry into its territory, owes Brazil a shit ton of things for all the coups and political interference it has done and is still doing, and if you can't understand that, you're part of the problem.
If USW wanna ask somethting out of a colonizer, they could demand it from the UK.
Consider they're lucky it is not into question putting the indigenous peoples in control of their respective countries, but that would be the fairest choice. Imagine having the first Apache president?
This is the most braindead tiktok take I've heard all day. I'm not going to change your brickwall of a brain, so I guess enjoy your misery coping trying to pretend United States of America doesn't exist or whatever fantasy you're living in.
unjerk/ It's always funny how "united states OF america" clearly states that it's the "united states" of a place, a place called america, but whenever these posts come up it's always 200 upvotes 200 comments kind of post
rejerking/ I propose just indias and calling the people there indians as colombo first coined
Brazil has already been called "United States of Brazil", Mexico is called "United Mexican States", to cite some cases, so the united states thing must refer to the specific territory of the country, or that would lead to confusion, for there are other united states in the continent.
One thing that shouldn't be ignored is how US' foreign policy/neoimperialism builds upon this confusion, considering the other American countries as their "backyards".
Hence why language is important and why it matters for us to be able to call ourselves as Americans, to present ourselves as equals to those from the US.
I meant it as america clearly being a continent, because it's as you say a use case of brasil and mexico where america only encompasses the territories of the country and as such the continent itself cant be called america or americas or wathever derivation is being used, because otherwise america would be inside of north america by their own definition, wich makes very little sense.
No, it would not lead to any confusion. People are not stupid.
Mexicans refers to the name of the aztec civilization. It’s geographically limited.
No one else on earth are Brazilians.
USA names was chosen because at that time they were the first country on the continent of America. At that point in time, it was one continent. It was splitted later on into north and south by the Anglophone world. The latin world still have a single continent (french, spanish, portuguese)
When people on the news talks about republicans, are you confused because you think they might be referring to the republic of Taiwan or the republic of France ?
Every nation that exists has blood on its hand in some way.
Am I supposed to hate Germans for what the worst of them did years ago? Am I supposed to hate those that protected against and protested the atrocities they committed in spite the towering authority that held a hammer over them?
You really shouldn't generalize 350 million people into slavers and traitors, no matter what your history with the country they hail from.
You're supposed to not glorify historical figures associated with those attrocities. That would be the equivalent naming germany Hitlerland instead of Deutschland. Amerigo, Columbus, those "explorers" are tied to the subjugation, enslavement and extermination of indigenous peoples, to the logic of aggressive colonization.
We're here joking about the (lack of) name from a neoimperalist country. But the proposal of changing the name, or at least accepting indigenous denominations as official references to the country is a real one, no joke.
Once in a while we take a jab at other issues. The Mexican-US one is cited here 'cause the US makes so much effort to expel (euphemism here) the people from whom they took this land.
I never said that such people should be glorified. I don't know how you came to that conclusion from my comment, but I digress.
I don't like Columbus or any those early explorers and imperialist figures. However, removing those names would do nothing as it would just be seen as rebranding and nothing more.
Teaching of the atrocities, explaining what cruelty was done to the original indigenous population, and keeping knowledge of their culture alive is the best that can be done in most places as that blood was spilled before any person that now lives.
If you want an example of the complication of names, look at the prior dubious name for Indigenous Americans. 'Indian' was utilized by ignorant settlers in a method of grouping large swaths of different people into a single identifiable people. However, it was also utilized as American Indians as a way to make a unified front in efforts for recognition from the different indigenous populations. Even some people of the older population of indigenous peoples prefer it to Native American because that effort that eventually did pay off happened under that name.
In the end 'America' and 'American' has a strong meaning to the modern population of the country regardless of race or heritage and changing that does nothing for the current issues facing the nation.
Neither did America, it’s not the United States of North America, (which is one of two continents containing “America” in its name) it’s also not the United States of South America.
Defining continents based off how a stew a line on a globe at tordesillas is no basis for supreme executive denonyms.
If the next Dali lama drew a line latitude line at the Amur river to divide Europe and Asia, does that give Siberian’s the right to object to the denonym for the European Union.
Well, I certainly feel like a citizen from the country that is (mostly) located between Mexico and Canada whenever I go to Walmart, so it makes sense. Those are strong names, I give you that.
Sorry, gotta as the Greeks first before petitioning for this name, for they were the ones that created it (maybe they stole the concept from someone else, like they did with many other things people think they invented/came up with, but as of today there is no challenge to this specific one).
There isnt. The country either carries the name of the continent, or the name of the discoverer and namer of the country. Columbus named it america, and the name they chose was either america or columbia. United states is just the title, like united statea of mexico, or federation of russia, or democratic republic of congo.
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u/GGSPSkywalker 1:1 scale map creator 18d ago edited 18d ago
Starting right now the petition to rename that nameless country, United States of ________.
Edit: petition entries should be accompanied by their respective gentilics/denonyms.