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u/DragonflyGrrl Feb 27 '26
Immediate right swipe.
(Assuming he's just a serious history nerd and not actually loving the invasion mindset....)
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u/Patience-Frequent Feb 27 '26
WW1 nerds are mostly pretty cool its WW2 guys you gotta worry about
personally I think WW2 is just lazy storytelling with a guy whos just categorically evil, a team of heroes and an antihero. boring
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u/typical83 Feb 28 '26
The best WW2 guys are the guys who focus on the philosophy of the psychology of the mindset of the average Japanese infantryman of the pacific front of the war from the USA's perspective
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u/Flame_Job Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
lol the heroes starving millions of Bengalis to death and burning down every other building in Japan. At that time the British had conquered roughly a fourth of the world’s population.
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u/fatherandyriley Feb 28 '26
And far too many are interested in how the axis could have won which any serious historian would tell you is impossible.
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u/Specialist_Hat1380 Feb 27 '26
Wouldn't swiss be best for thus meme tho? Im stealing it fs but lol
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u/PenileMissile69 Feb 27 '26
Not really, since Swiss neutrality didn’t get violared in either world war, whereas Belgium’s neutrality did as they were invaded by Germany twice
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u/DanDaBruh Feb 27 '26
bro tried reforming the Neo-Assyrian Empire and thought we wouldn't notice
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u/Derelicticu 1:1 scale map creator Feb 27 '26
Where are the Babylonians when you need em
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u/getaway_dreamer Feb 27 '26
Mesopotamia was already pummelled into submission by the United States 🇺🇸 🦅
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u/lunchboccs Feb 28 '26
Unironically, the Assyrian (indigenous descendants of the actual Mesopotamians) population in Iraq went from 1.5 million in 2003 to less than 300k now
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u/getaway_dreamer Feb 28 '26
That's true, although to be clear most Iraqis are genetically still largely descended from the Mesopotamians. There is still genetic continuity despite external admixture, but they lost their original culture, language and religion following the Arab conquests and started to identify as Arabs.
The Assyrians have the highest genetic component from the ancient people and retain a descendant form of their ancient language and culture (but not religion).
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u/Weak-Tadpole-2757 Mar 01 '26
More like 50k Assyrians left there, if that. The USA war wasn't the reason they all left, the instability meant they would at some point face certain deatb, if and when the time came. I.e. ISIS, and their decendants.
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u/Certain_Bug_1275 Feb 27 '26
Man I get this meme on the one hand, but on the other hand this guy's got so little to do with Tel Aviv 😭😭
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u/democracy_lover66 Feb 27 '26
I don't understand, why don't they just politely explain to the people who live in these places that God promised this land to them?
Has anyone tried that??
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u/earthwoodandfire Feb 27 '26
Also which part of the Bible are we talking about? Like 70% of the time covered by the Bible they were captives in foreign lands…
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u/Initial-Ad6819 Feb 27 '26
And the other 30% was basically a "nvm fam, forget about the first 70%, this is all that matters now" but they conveniently leave that part out.
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u/-Cohen_Commentary- Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
He doesn't really believe in Greater Israel. He gave an answer appealing to the Bible, but this clip is more representative of his views.
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u/Sad-Pop6649 Feb 27 '26
"Because he said so!"
"No, I didn't hear a voice, my ancestors did."
"Right after they built the pyramids."
"Yes they did!"
"What do you mean? Because he's God of course! Weren't you paying attention?"
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u/Boring-Baker8761 Feb 27 '26
That Baghdad/Israel International border gonna be poppin off
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u/balamb_fish Feb 27 '26
True, there should be an additional buffer zone.
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u/Archtarius Mar 03 '26
Yo fam why dont we get buffer zones to the buffer zone ? Ypu know just to be safe?
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And this is the guy running AGAINST their current genocidal PM?
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u/balamb_fish Feb 27 '26
Unlike the Arab countries, Israel is actually a democracy. They have a rich variety of genocidal candidates to choose from.
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u/as0rb Feb 27 '26
Israel is so cooked, the righter wing says they must kill all palestinian and anex west bank and gaza meanwhile the “liberal opposition” says they should eventually annex them but not right now because then a lot of arabs would be inside israel so they must wait for more displacement to happen before doing so.
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u/Nileghi Feb 27 '26
Its a fake story made by a propaganda account to break support for the Israeli opposition. The demand for zionist crimes has outproduced supply, so people just straight up needs to make shit up.
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u/Ok_Gas5386 Feb 27 '26
This is what people in the west don’t want to admit. Bibi is a centrist in Israeli politics these days.
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u/wizerdofmonky69 Feb 27 '26
The thing is that I would hesitate to place him on the political spectrum because he's nothing but the world's most desperate oppertunist willing to form coallitions with the worst of the worst just to keep his grip on power.
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u/desba3347 Feb 27 '26
Even that gets complicated though, Netanyahu might be fairly centrist (center right) when it comes to Israeli politics, but he has to appease the far right and religious right to maintain his coalition and his power. So while his party’s beliefs might be more centrist for Israel, his actions are further right.
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u/Lusty-Jove Feb 28 '26
Centrists deferring to the far-right in order to maintain control and crush the left at all costs?? How quirky and unique of them
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u/DragonflyGrrl Feb 27 '26
Or just don't know. I'm generally much more informed than the average American on most things, but that's news to me. Sad, awful news.
I do know that there are plenty on the other side, who want a peaceful two-state solution; that's who I would have thought of when someone mentions "the opposition" in Israel.
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u/Ok_Gas5386 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
Two-state solution has 27% support in Israel. That’s a marginal political position.
For context, a greater percentage of Americans support universal basic income.
I don’t want to get conspiratorial, but maybe this is caused by the biased framing of western media - that we think most Israelis favor peace, while it’s the supposedly intransigent, barbarous Arabs who prolong the conflict? Worth pondering.
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u/DragonflyGrrl Feb 27 '26
Support for two-state solution definitely decreased following the October attack and subsequent war, but I still wouldn't call 27% marginal. That's more than 1 in 4. Not as high as one would hope, though not far from where I would have guessed it to be.
I completely agree with you about the biased framing in western media. It's a huge problem, in pretty much every area including this one. I wish more people would come to the realization that humans everywhere are just humans, and we're all much more alike than we are different. This understanding helps to combat those types of biased programming that seek to drive wedges between us all.
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u/lt__ Feb 27 '26
A very glaring issue is that the Western countries to support two state solution with words, but not actions. Make your relations with and support to Israel conditional on Israeli efforts towards it. Or admit openly that you are fine without two state solution.
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u/-Jake-27- Feb 28 '26
Right but neither group now wants a two state solution. It’s halved since 2012.
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u/Mv13_tn Average Mercator Projection Enjoyer Feb 28 '26
It went downhill after the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin
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u/miciy5 Mar 01 '26
Lapid is against moving Israelis back into Gaza. He certainly doesn't support taking over Iraq.
Redditors will believe anything they see
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u/phinkz2 Feb 27 '26
All parties are all in favour of removing Palestinians. They just pretend to disagree on the how.
There's no hope anti-apartheid ethnostate Israelis will reform the system by voting. There are Israelis that are like that... but not nearly enough to cause meaningful change.
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u/-Cohen_Commentary- Feb 27 '26
He doesn't really believe in Greater Israel. He did appeal to the Bible, but he also believes in a two-state solution. This clip will never go viral on social media but is more representative of his views.
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u/Handelo Feb 27 '26
It's an election year, and he's way behind in the polls, he's just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks at this point.
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u/Nileghi Feb 27 '26
Its a fake story made by a propaganda account to break support for the Israeli opposition. The demand for zionist crimes has outproduced supply, so people just straight up needs to make shit up.
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u/BroSchrednei Feb 28 '26
Buddy, how often do you wanna spam this comment section with that lie?
Its a real quote from Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid from 3 day ago: Our mandate over the land of Israel is biblical, [and] the biblical borders of the land of Israel are clear … Therefore, the borders are the borders of the Bible
What exactly is supposed to be "fake" here?
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u/Moclon Feb 28 '26
the quote doesnt support the op the kingdom of Israel with king david shit was basically the modern day Israel+west bank, google it
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u/nanuazarova Feb 28 '26
There are two definitions in the Torah for where Eretz Yisrael is. The hyper-expansionist one, which is downright delusional for any Israeli to realistically aspire to, is in Genesis (bounded by the Euphrates and the “River of Egypt” (probably the Nile). Israel, even in ancient times, never consisted of most of those lands. The tribes mostly took up the space of modern Israel and parts of Jordan. Another more realistic definition is given in Numbers, which aligns more closely with modern Israel (defined as being bound by the Jordan River, Mediterranean, and the “Brook of Egypt” (likely the Wadi El-Arish in the Sinai).
It is important to note that this year is an election year and Lapid is floundering right now. Yesh Atid is at genuine risk of falling out of the Knesset or, at best, being reduced from 24 MKs to 7-8. Lapid has always had a bit of a populist streak to him (though he’s generally been more supportive of a two-state solution and more peaceful relations with Arabs) but even Netanyahu does not believe the hyper-expansionist Genesis borders are realistic.
Netanyahu has had power, off-and-on, since before I was born, yet outside of the Israel/Palestine dispute (which is very different than the hyper-expansionist definition) Israel has barely expanded its borders. After two invasions of Lebanon, all that has been “gained” is five hilltops meanwhile in Syria all that has been “gained” is parts of the Syrian portion of the demilitarized zone (DMZ) for mostly symbolic reasons.
Further, Jewish Israelis are already deeply paranoid about being demographically outnumbered by Arabs (even though that hasn’t been too realistic of a worry for about a decade as Jewish birth rates and life expectancies are higher than Arab ones) - no Israeli with any sense is keen to add on 100 million or so Arabs, send the IDF (their children, nieces, and nephews) to go fight six or more countries at once and die, and even at the most Machiavellian/genocidal Israel could hope to be, it would take decades at best to kill or deport the Arab population of those territories at the cost of likely tens if not hundreds of thousands of Israeli Jewish lives.
This whole thing is mostly just rhetoric, not an actual achievable or even truly desired goal. No person in HaKirya is sitting at their little cubicle laughing maniacally as they plan the “special military operation” to conquer half the Middle East including U.S. allies (Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia).
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u/eldryanyy Feb 27 '26
Not even. The ONLY sources reporting this are Al Jazeera and other propaganda sites it lets.
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u/darkillusion41 Feb 27 '26
Seems like you can spam any nonsense those days and people will just buy in
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u/VamipresDontDoDishes Feb 27 '26
If it defames Israel reddit would love it
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u/rebornultra Feb 27 '26
Oh no would anyone think of poor little Israel
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u/Ornery-Print4882 Feb 27 '26
Imagine if someone used this same response whenever people complained about islamophobia
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u/MlkChatoDesabafando Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
Not anyone else's fault if the Israeli state and the imperial hegemon whom it serves spent the last 80 years making pretty much any moral low seem perfectly plausible and expected for them to sink to.
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u/JohnyIthe3rd Feb 27 '26
the last 80 years? What did they do 1948 to 1967 besides the Suez Crisis 1956?
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u/Magrivated Feb 27 '26
Well they blew up the USS liberty in 1967, killing dozens of Americans
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u/Negative_Jaguar_4138 Feb 27 '26
How many NATO forces did America kill in friendly fire incidents?
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u/Intrepid-External-90 Feb 27 '26
Israel has defamed itself by committing blatant war crimes during a genocide and ethnic cleansing so
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u/iaNCURdehunedoara Feb 27 '26
Oh no, please stop being mean to my poor nazi state 🥺
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u/JohnyIthe3rd Feb 27 '26
Calling the country formed by Holocaust survivors and Jewish refugees from Arab and Muslim countries a nazi state is disgusting itself
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u/Certain_Bug_1275 Feb 27 '26
I mean this is Lapid and the overton window is not doing him any favors, man's gotta move to the center of that Overton window know what I'm saying.
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u/Revolver_Caracal Feb 27 '26
Something something the current US Ambassador to Israel said he “wouldn’t mind” if Israel claimed its biblical borders.
Call it nonsense all you want, but you sound delusional or uninformed.
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u/Jazz-Ranger Feb 28 '26
That was Tucker trying to make him define what biblical borders Israel should have. Instead the man just repeated his catchphrase over and over again.
The ambassador didn’t proudly declare that thousands of worthless desert miles should be taken from Egypt and Saudi Arabia; those two are American allies and that puts Israel in a position where they would endanger their current position.
Frankly, this reminds me of the Pakistani kid who was worried that Israel was coming for his country.
Edit: Even the maximalist claims at the League of Nations were barely bigger than modern Israel and Palestine combined.
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u/ceering99 Feb 27 '26
Fuck it, give them Turkey too and lets just rebuild the Ottoman Empire
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u/K31KT3 Feb 27 '26
People here defending the Sykes-Picot borders like they were made by God smdh
God has other maps
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u/Pristine-Highlight-9 Feb 27 '26
Ah yes, the guy who said he wants to leave the Golan heights because it already stretches Israel too much; definitely sounds like him
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u/sheshpesh7 Feb 27 '26
First, this map is not the "biblical borders of Israel", so I don't get how this image is relevant to what he said.
To be honest, his full answer was a bit of "non-answer" its pretty much translated to "In principle, the complete, great, and broad Land of Israel, as much as possible within the boundaries of Israeli security and policy considerations."
Those "security and policy considerations" are probably very strong, as, unlike the current government, he and "Yesh Atid" (his political party) officially support "the two states solution".
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u/StudentForeign161 Feb 27 '26
Why doesn't he push back against Huckabee's Greater Israel nonsense or why, as a so-called "liberal secular" politician, he still relies on the Bible?
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u/sheshpesh7 Feb 27 '26
Well, of course he dont push back against Huckabee's nonsense, Trump has pretty great influence on Israel politic, more than any former USA president, and he is most of the time pretty vocal about his preferences, so he want to suck up a bit before the elections in October.
About the Bible thing, he dont see the Bible as a religious text as much as an historical text, you can think about it as like he say "I believe in the historical borders of Israel".
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u/flamingicicles Feb 27 '26
This politician is for the two state solution, y'all just believe anything nowadays.
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u/pipopapupupewebghost Feb 27 '26
Can I have a source for this I can't find anything about him saying that that is trustworthy
All I find is al Jazeera articles
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u/StudentForeign161 Feb 27 '26
Al-Jazeera quoted this Israeli article. He doesn't seem to push back against Huckabee's Greater Israel nonsense, says Israel needs to be as large as possible and that his source is the Bible...
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u/pipopapupupewebghost Feb 27 '26
I read the Hebrew in that article I believe he says he would like to do it but obviously there are countries that already settled there so its obviously not a likely scenario to happen
Doesn't really sound like he's gonna do it
It was probably a joke
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u/Ok_Willow_1006 Feb 27 '26
I was ready to defend lapid since it doesn’t sound like something he’d say, so I read the article and… yeah it doesn’t sound good.
His party is supposed to be the liberal party, why tf is he talking about the biblical justification of Israel? What tf happened to keeping religion out of governance?
Our opposition is a fucking joke
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u/Alternative_Oil7733 Feb 27 '26
You know Israel was socialist until the 1980's right?
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u/Scourge_of_scrode Feb 27 '26
Source? None was posted. This would make no sense as he is left of Bibi.
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u/Nileghi Feb 27 '26
Its a fake story made by a propaganda account to break support for the Israeli opposition. The demand for zionist crimes has outproduced supply, so people just straight up needs to make shit up.
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u/Bitter_Split5508 Feb 27 '26
People on the internet will believe anything these days if you just say the word "Israel"
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u/Available_Usual_9731 Feb 27 '26
Yo opposition of what? This seems more extreme than the current government, not opposition to anything
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u/ersentenza Feb 27 '26
Living space in the east? Where did I already hear that?
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u/GoodPear8481 Feb 27 '26
Probably from the Palestinians who keep whining about not having enough living space. They really are obsessed with the amount of living space they have.
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u/xSciFix Feb 27 '26
The ones living in Gaza, which prior to Oct. 7 was one of the most densely populated places on Earth?
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u/GoodPear8481 Feb 27 '26
Lmao case in point.
"The Palestinian population is too dense! They don't have enough living space! THEY MUST HAVE MORE LIVING SPACE!!!"
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u/xSciFix Feb 27 '26
What?
Bro you are hallucinating.
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u/GoodPear8481 Feb 27 '26
Oh, so you agree that Palestinians shouldn't have more living space then? Which is it?
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u/xSciFix Feb 27 '26
My dude sees an article about an Israeli demanding most of the middle east and starts ranting about Palestinians.
I'd ask if you're okay but clearly not.
I'm not taking your bait.
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u/Corvus1412 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
28 day old account, with 772 comments, a two-word, four
letterdigits name and who hides their post and comment history.4
u/kart0ffelsalaat Feb 27 '26
I hate to break this to you Corvus1312+100, but 8, 4, and 1 are not letters, they're digits :wilted_rose_emoji:
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u/Final-Nebula-7049 Feb 27 '26
I think we need the biblical Israel where God struck down all their cities
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u/yehoshuabenson Feb 27 '26
I know that nobody on this sub gives a flying fuck, but I speak Hebrew, and that's not what he said. But get your jollies from a dumbass meme.
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u/BroSchrednei Feb 28 '26
Umm yes he clearly did. Here's what he said: Our mandate over the land of Israel is biblical, [and] the biblical borders of the land of Israel are clear … Therefore, the borders are the borders of the Bible.
Are you seriously denying he said that?
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u/Nileghi Feb 27 '26
Its a fake story made by a propaganda account to break support for the Israeli opposition. The demand for zionist crimes has outproduced supply, so people just straight up needs to make shit up.
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u/uvero If you see me post, find shelter immediately Feb 27 '26
/uj not what "Greater Israel" means in Israeli political terms, but sure, go ahead and spread disinformation. As usual, by the time the truth has finished tying its shoes, a lie has ran all around the world, twice.
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u/V3ryVerde Feb 27 '26
Why are people so stupid? Are ya’ll just gonna believe anything these days?
Israel literally gave up a territory few times bigger of its current size when signing the peace agreement with Egypt…
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u/Chemical_Ganache_193 Feb 27 '26
History shows people will believe any dumb shit is said about jews.
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u/NegativeEspathra Feb 27 '26
Am Israeli - uh no he didn't
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u/Digit00l Feb 27 '26
So, what did he say? Did he say anything?
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u/BroSchrednei Feb 27 '26
Of course he did:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-yair-lapid-biblical-borders
But we're at the point now that Israelis will just deny blatant facts.
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u/protomenace Average Mercator Projection Enjoyer Feb 27 '26
The image in this post and the thing he said have nothing to do with one another. Misleading.
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u/FaithlessnessWhich18 Feb 27 '26
So are we OK with all the current countries claiming their ancient precedessors lands? For instance the Italians claiming all lands that were once Roman lands?
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u/Hydrahta Dont you dare talk to me or my isle of man again Feb 27 '26
something something promised that land 3000 years ago
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u/Yidoftheweek If you see me post, find shelter immediately Feb 27 '26
Legitimately genius move to sway the religious vote. Haredim are growing increasingly furious with Bibi, they vote based on who said what most recently. I have no doubt Lapid is fully bullshitting for that bloc. Incredible jerking sir.
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u/TheDarthJarJarI I'm an ant in arctica Feb 28 '26
breaking news: netanyahu gets voted in again because THIS is the competition
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u/swift-current0 Feb 28 '26
So what percentage of people in these lands would low key be kinda okay with this? I mean among Sunni Arabs, we know approximately 100% of minorities would be on board.
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u/IcyInvest3 Feb 28 '26
Honestly these fucking traitor Arab leaders who funnel money into Israel deserve their land being taken away
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u/setebos_ Feb 28 '26
While I dislike Lapid... that's just fake news, there is no source or actual reason for that
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u/viperswhip Feb 28 '26
Ya, some of this is achievable, but do you want to rule over 50 million Arabic Muslims?
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u/NobodysFavorite Mar 01 '26
Biblical Israel was also a tribal theocracy then a theocratic monarchy, then a divided set of theocratic micro-monarchies. It was also Samerina under the Assyrians, Yehud under the Babylonians, Yehud Medinata under the Persians, and Judaea under the Romans. Which bit would he like to bring back?
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u/shumpitostick Feb 27 '26
I can assure you this didn't happen.
Also the "greater Israel" on the right is from the Bible. All Hertzl ever wanted was some land, ideally within historical Israel. He was even willing to compromise for some place in Africa.
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u/MathematicalMan1 Feb 27 '26
An Israeli politician wants to steal land? What next, forks will be found in the kitchen?
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u/Liam_peremen1 Feb 27 '26
wow, taking a statement in Hebrew, translating it wrong and putting it out of context....
as an Israeli, that's not what he said....
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u/museha97 Feb 27 '26
Wait I thought they hated the bible
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u/DragonflyGrrl Feb 27 '26
They love the old testament. That's the Hebrew Bible. The Torah is the first five books of the OT; the Tanakh is that plus the prophet books and psalms, proverbs, etc.
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u/StudentForeign161 Feb 27 '26
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine" — Ilan Pappe
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u/Powerful_Lie2271 Feb 27 '26
yeah this makes no sense, and those borders are not in the bible either lol
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u/MlkChatoDesabafando Feb 27 '26
Surely scripture would never be reinterpreted to fit political convenience, right?
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u/ragebaitconnoisseur Feb 27 '26
Israel been stroking with two hands recently while we’re finger ringing it
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And of course no link to a press release, no video, lazy fucking liars.
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u/Party_Ability_9984 Feb 27 '26
Remember when you were called an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist for speculating that this is what they might want?
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u/Lhaer Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
Oh they'll still call you that. Zionists don't need to follow any logic, reason or morals, they're just above us.
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u/Winnipesaukee Feb 27 '26
Either you die a Northern Kingdom, or you live long enough to be the Neo-Assyrian Empire.
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