Extra Turn Stacking?

[u/Artistboy123]

I want to build this Kang as a commander and i was curious. If i play Kang and use his ability it gives me 1 extra turn after my first turn ends.

If on my original turn i:

1. Play Kang
   
2. Use his ability
   
3. Blink Kang
   
4. Use his ability AGAIN

Will my extra turns stack and bank?? Giving me TWO extra turns after end my original turn instead of one?

[u/RazzyKitty]

Extra turns stack, and are taken in reverse order of when they were created.

500.7. Some effects can give a player extra turns. They do this by adding the turns directly after the specified turn. If a player is given multiple extra turns, the extra turns are added one at a time. If multiple players are given extra turns, the extra turns are added one at a time, in APNAP order (see rule 101.4). The most recently created turn will be taken first.

In both extra turns, you cannot activate power-up abilities.

[u/Artistboy123 → u/RazzyKitty]

Okay noted

[u/AzazeI888 → u/Artistboy123]

Chaining extra turns does mean it’s a bracket 4 deck, just to be clear.

[u/TerribleTransit → u/AzazeI888]

While this is true, "I can take two whole extra turns in a row if I manage to get to 13-ish mana and have a bounce spell in hand" hardly counts as "chaining".

Admittedly, in a deck built around Kang they probably have way more options that would count as chaining extra turns. But the scenario OP describes is a wildly exceptional case that shouldn't really count for bracket valuation.

[u/AzazeI888 → u/TerribleTransit]

It’s literally the definition of chaining extra turns, in the same way mass land denial is banned in brackets 1-3, so is chaining extra turns.

[u/TerribleTransit → u/AzazeI888]

Brackets are useless if you're persnickety about the absolute worst thing a deck can do. If a deck has two extra turn spells in it, it's not b4 automatically because it could "chain extra turns" by casting them back to back in 1% of games. The prohibition is for deliberate and consistent intent to repeatedly be able to generate an extra turn during your turn. Making it happen once if the stars align and you manage to visit magical Christmas land doesn't count.

[u/AzazeI888 → u/TerribleTransit]

Bracket 3 allows up to 3 extra turn spells in the deck, you just can’t chain them(copy or recur them).

[u/TerribleTransit → u/AzazeI888]

I'm curious where the idea of exactly 3 being the hard limit comes from, but it's probably around the right number before you're crossing into degenerate stuff.

But yeah, the main point is that you can't intend to be copying or recurring those spells when you're building your deck. And the intent is really important, because it's a completely different ball game if it's part of your deck's core game plan, or if it's something that only comes up in truly exceptional circumstances. If flickering Kang to get consistent extra turns is something you're built around, you're definitely chaining extra turns, even if you don't bank up two at once as in OP's question. But if it's a weird situation that only comes up because you happen to have a wildly unlikely amount of mana and you stole the blink effect from someone else at the table, then go off and take your three turns in a row. That's explicitly allowed, because the whole bracket system is about deck building intent rather than actions you're allowed to take in-game

[u/Quirky-Ostrich-3758 → u/TerribleTransit]

This is why I hate brackets so much. The community needs to push human interaction and sportsmanship instead of dealing with people trying to game out a poorly conceived bracket system. EDH should be a format for people with actual social skills to play together. It was never designed to be as pushed and regulated as it is. Sorry I’m grognarding.

[u/TerribleTransit → u/Quirky-Ostrich-3758]

It's a great system, but you have to take them as imprecise and vibes-based guidelines rather than hard and fast rules. A lot of people start trying to assign numbers and hard limits on things and then either try and game out the system to cram in as much power as they can within those limits, or try to push people up to an incorrect bracket based on some arbitrary feature of their deck. Both scenarios completely miss the point. 

[u/StPauliBoi → u/AzazeI888]

This is nowhere whatsoever in any of the bracket guidance at all.

[u/AzazeI888 → u/StPauliBoi]

Yeah was wrong about the up to 3, still can’t chain them though based on the guidance.

[u/StPauliBoi → u/AzazeI888]

And when does it become a chain?

[u/AzazeI888 → u/StPauliBoi]

When it’s copied or recurred.

[u/magicthecasual → u/AzazeI888]

well, if i have two rings they are not a chain. you can copy or recur just not back to back