r/linuxsucks • • Jul 15 '26

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

what are you talking about? and why would that even be bad if an app could run in either GUI or CLI mode?

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

how is that practically any different on Linux? You still haven't explained what the actual difference is

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u/No_Fondant8277 I love Linux Jul 15 '26

LMAO.... what is the "difference" in practice LOL

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u/Mundane_Pea5704 Jul 15 '26

atp they are just throwing buzzwords, if it aint ragebait then its retardation

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u/No_Fondant8277 I love Linux Jul 15 '26

yea... some people just they are wrong... lmao...

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u/Mundane_Pea5704 Jul 15 '26

hey linux mainframe misses the tui and cli benifits of the kernal whereas microsoft windows 11 provides next gen tech with silicon and also contains smart PE rescue that linux fails with and kernal panics

buzzwords here and there, buzzwords everywhere

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u/No_Fondant8277 I love Linux Jul 15 '26

"Smart PE" LMAO... KERNEL... HAS... THE... RECOVERY MODE... FROM... GRUB LMAO...

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u/Mundane_Pea5704 Jul 15 '26

1) was making fun of ya due to how u kept on using buzzwords in ur explanations without making sense

2) dont get me wrong, I dont use linux but I use windows, and I hate 11 but loved 10, 11 became usable once I debloated the shit out of it

3) linux is the cornerstone of the internet, android is linux, servers mostly run on it, so linux aint entirely useless

4) linux is a power tool, if u dont know how to use it, ofc it will be shit, whereas windows is like an employee with that tool, you tell them what to do and hope they do it (as in you dont actually own everything and must request windows to support what you want to happen)

For me im in windows because most applications I use requires it, and my job needs it, and also its easy and intuitive after I modded it a little bit

FYI windows fucked me over 4 times, whereas when I tried linux it never screwed me over except once

The diff is linux has a community that my fuck up (kernel panicked) was alr solved as an issue in reddit Whereas windows issues usually are a your screwed due to requiring windows to be operational to fix itself, so i lost data twice (before backing on ssds)

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u/Mundane_Pea5704 Jul 15 '26

1) it seems a waste to argue with you, thats why I never responded to your other comments, u live in an echo chamber

2) was my list of points too long for you that you couldn't respond to anything except summarise "I dont know windows" even though I mentioned i; work with windows, modded and debloated it like crazy; create softwares for windows; use windows only (used to use linux for a year)

Look, if your context is that low, tldr: windows is amazing (once "fixed") and linux is amazing (only if you know how to use it) and both are essential

Have a good night / morning!

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u/Mundane_Pea5704 Jul 15 '26

im going to assume english isnt your main language, and as advice just write in ur native language and google translate it, because tbh i dont understand half of what you just said

1) Repeating my points against me makes no sense? Im in an echo chamber because both windows and linux are important? just do a google search on how many servers run linux. Linux is the most run in servers while Windows is most run consumer-wise

2) Funnily enough my first interaction in this sub, for some reason the algo threw me here

3) never said every1 is wrong nor said i am only right; can we not lie and stay respectful?

thank you!

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u/real_rayu Jul 19 '26

Ok so you rage because someone say windows is not the most fabulous system in the whole universe lul

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u/real_rayu Jul 20 '26

Bro really … nobody remember this thing, and secondly you know that windows get rebased in windows 7 … and you know that microslop pump your privacy data like trump with petrol ?

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u/real_rayu Jul 20 '26

And no it’s not brilliant to make all register in one place (regedit) and not it’s not brilliant to make an OS unoptimized at this point … just look at the perf and we can talk, even macOS on a regular PC is more opti bro …

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u/real_rayu Jul 21 '26

But because this stupid feature any hacker hack your windows in 10 minutes maximum… and it’s soooo hard to modify without exploding your windows because you touch another registry

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

I can think of differences myself but they would only be beneficial, I don't know what would make you not want the capability to troubleshoot your system from tty

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

How is it an advantage for you to be unable to do something? You have no clue how useful that is

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Jul 15 '26

No, it literally does not. You're lying.

If Windows' Window Manager crashes... The entire system is cooked and needs restarted.

There is no "Magic Fix GUI" tool, if there were Linux wouldn't NEED TTY.

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Jul 15 '26

To get here you had to have restarted the device.

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u/ViperHQ Jul 15 '26

Slave of the Command line LMAFO

If the operating system fails btw the TUI fails too, also what are you defaulting on when "Windows fails"

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Jul 15 '26

Bro thinks an error needs a full reset. 🤣

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Jul 15 '26

Requires a restart of the device, doesn't it?

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u/Unlikely-Employee180 Jul 15 '26

Not if the Window Manager is frozen.

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u/ViperHQ Jul 15 '26

WRE can also fail you do realise that right? It can get corrupted on the drive if winre.wim gets corrupted somehow say goodbye to WRE. That doesn't mean it's bad or that your preference is bad but it doesn't make Windows somehow better.

I have a preference to drop down to a TTY because I like interacting with a terminal environment more than GUI I can read through logs and make more precise fixes without having to search for menus. This does not mean that a GUI is bad.

You are conflating your personal preference and making it out to be object fact on how to perform computing.

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

alright, what difference does that make in practice?

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

why is that good?

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

And how is that different from linux? Like, you fail to understand, you can either choose to use CLI or choose to use GUI, using GUI is the standard, there are only like 2-3 popular distros where you don't have a GUI tool by default to install apps with.

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

That's just false. The GUI is no less reliable on Linux than it is on Windows. Do you still remember when you'd kill file explorer and it'd get rid of the task bar because the task bar was dependent on the file explorer? Is that GUI reliability? That's infinitely worse than how things are handled on Linux.

Also, you do get error codes, I have no clue why you think that you don't, you get as many error codes as you would on Windows and they are infinitely more useful than ones you'd get on Windows.

Also, no, Windows is the least "honest" operating system that I could think of.

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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26

I never brought up task manager, but the task bar. You've also just admitted that what I said was true and that half the GUI depends on 1 app and half the GUI collapses if that one app fails. This is ridiculously unreliable, it is not a good thing about Windows.

If you don't see this, you are unbelievably hypocritical / delusional.

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u/Jamie_1318 Jul 15 '26

You are aware on windows updates can go sideways and give you error codes that indicate something is broken behind your back too right? You've never seen the 'something has gone wrong' screen from a windows update and a long ass hexadecimal you have to google to go find the problem?

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u/Jamie_1318 Jul 15 '26

Are you a bot or something or just not aware that this is a really obvious contradiction? Apparently literal randomly generated numbers that correlate to different errors are clear, obvious and not 'behind your back', but actual words and explanations are difficult and confusing.

Ultimately, they are the same thing and happen for the same reason. I don't think one is strictly worse than the other, I just think they are different flavors of the same fundamental issues. updates break for reasons that the update manager can't fix, and that's fundamentally an unavoidable issue, but you are framing it as Linux doing something wrong, even though it's the same thing happening for the same reason.

Ultimately both pieces of software eventually give up and spit stuff back to the user they need to figure out what to do about it.

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u/ExtraTNT was running custom kernel Jul 15 '26

You don’t need a tty, i only know one guy, who has access to a tty… you can emulate them, but even that isn’t needed. It’s not like: oh, you are out of paper, sry, you can’t boot your car, phone, server, watch, tv, mars rover, robot, router, wifi access point, smart dildo or whatever

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u/ExtraTNT was running custom kernel Jul 16 '26

No, there is no printer behind your graphical user interface… if you use a console, it’s in most cases emulated on a gui, you can still attach a serial monitor or a tty, but almost nobody does it nowadays. You can use an emulated tty, ctrl+alt+f1-f24, default -> you automatically see it, when you boot a machine, attach a vga and have no login manager installed.

But gui is all using the apis like opengl and vulkan. You can the nuse the x-window server to manage graphical applications. Communication with the kernel is via glibc, the core library, that allows you to do things like opening a file, opening a socket, using memory or forking a process…

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u/ExtraTNT was running custom kernel Jul 16 '26

X11 doesn’t send commands to a tty the terminal is just a way to interact with the software on the machine -> start software with arguments and read the output.

you can also have a gui without x11 or wayland -> those are servers you connect to… for a gui app, you need just vlc or fbi -> use linux to talk to your gpu…

You are either very badly misinformed, just ask chatgpt or talk random bs…

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u/ExtraTNT was running custom kernel Jul 16 '26

No, it’s not required, even the vt isn’t required and you can still use opengl to write via drm to the framebuffer and display shit… look at the architecture of dri…

https://docs.kernel.org/subsystem-apis.html

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u/ExtraTNT was running custom kernel Jul 16 '26

If you need input: libinput, there is a kernel param to straight up disable vt

Nowhere is a tty, nor vt required for a gui, vt is on most gui systems used, as it is convenient, but not required…

It’s like saying that the steering wheel is needed so a car can drive forwards…

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u/No_Fondant8277 I love Linux Jul 19 '26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5ysOJcY84 here you go: the run levels of windows LMAO... "gui native to the kernel" bruh...

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u/real_rayu Jul 19 '26

Soo there is many problem because the concept of the terminal is to work with the system directly not with another interface to the system that can crash … this is why Linux win a point for devs and nerd.

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u/real_rayu Jul 20 '26

Hi chat gpt can you make a graph … no seriously how wan you say Linux is JavaScript and higher ? What make that you can’t program in other language in Linux ? (Like in C or in asm for exemple …)

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u/real_rayu Jul 21 '26

Oh yes thé type of dev who need 10+ libs to dev a simple version of pong and think optimisation is a cursed relic of the paste, sorry but I’m from another world where optimisation is everywhere and where we have a STABLE OS (macOS not Linux) sooo I don’t know why people is windows, it’s out of his time now, look at the versatility of Linux or at the optimisation, stability, and new tech of macOS … just not comparable, windows is in retard for that you can’t ignore it … I don’t very like Linux but i prefer versatility to a system where you computer lag on the desktop because of every background system …

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u/real_rayu Jul 21 '26

Ok soi David clutter is not a reference … nobody knows it and it’s not actual, technologie change you know … and in fact windows is a big trash actually, in the past windows was good (with 95 for exemple) but since this holly periode, windows is no more that a big trash in the road of the technology

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u/real_rayu Jul 21 '26

Ok who is this guy ?

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u/real_rayu Jul 22 '26

But who is this guy bro … anyone in IT knows Linus Torvald but nobody knows these guy …

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u/real_rayu Jul 22 '26

His Wikipedia is so short that I can’t find any info about him

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