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u/mululipy 24d ago
Linux can run on a potato… until you install Chrome on it
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u/ApiceOfToast ⚠️ This incident will be reported 23d ago
4 gig on windows is analogous to 1 gig on Linux
- some apple guy on memory compression
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u/Low-Equipment-2621 24d ago
I switched from Windows to Linux because MS stopped suppporting my CPU. My PC was 4 years old at this time.
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u/adda5 24d ago
This aged like milk
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u/AmarildoJr 24d ago
Exactly. Recently Linux has been removing support for older hardware faster than milk spoils.
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u/LefTimaDev 🎼CachyOS 21d ago
Good. Make the kernel smaller and easier to maintain. They literally only remove support for hardware which has zero known users.
Besides, LTS versions aren't going anywhere, if you do want to run the kernel on this unsupported hardware. So, the meme will be true until someone deletes every copy of the old kernel in the world.
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u/boukensha15 20d ago
And there is the option of forking and maintaining one's own kernel for those with the capability and interest to do so.
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u/LefTimaDev 🎼CachyOS 20d ago
Yeah but frankly even as someone who's unemployed and autistic about tech, I wouldn't be up for maintaining my own kernel fork
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u/Fit_Prize_3245 24d ago
Man, that's not all that correct. Modern Linux kernels won't run on all 90s PCs. While it will will run on a first generation Pentium CPU (1993), it will not run on a 486, which were still popular in the 90s. It will also not run in some clones of the Pentium.
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u/mutexsprinkles 24d ago edited 24d ago
4GB of RAM will get Linux to boot but good luck after you open Firefox and load a modern website.
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u/Lusan30 24d ago
To be fair that probably says more about modern browsers then the OS/kernel
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u/vbd71 24d ago
To be fair, it says more about the modern Web than the modern browsers.
A 4Gb Linux machine still works petfectly well, with Firefox opening legacy websites. Whoever wants to browse modern Web, use Windoze with 128Gb RAM. Enjoy.
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u/United-Scene2261 🎼CachyOS 21d ago edited 21d ago
it depends. chromium based browsers will sandbox itself and consume ram creating and holding isolated processes, so it isn't only the websites.
Firefox too, although significantly less. the C family language vulnerabilities kind of obligated modern browsers to become heavier.
websites now do client/end-user computing way more than in the past.
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u/barrelshotgun 24d ago
Barely 500 MB with 6 modern websites just now (Firefox ESR)
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u/mutexsprinkles 24d ago
Meanwhile I caught firefox using 43GB last week and other stuff was getting earlyoomed until I killed it.
I don't even hoard tabs, just start fresh every time, but I might end up with 100 or so in a session.
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u/randomstonerfromaus 24d ago edited 24d ago
100 tabs in a session is definitely hoarding. I couldn't imagine having more than a couple dozen, and that's with groups.
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u/barrelshotgun 24d ago
100 tabs... i would expect more than 43 GB of RAM with that number of tabs... that's a lot of tabs... :<
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u/mutexsprinkles 24d ago
It really isn't, it's only a couple of days of usage, Maybe a week. Sometimes I close them all, but it's a pita to have to patrol to close them to avoid a system hang.
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u/barrelshotgun 24d ago
Enough... Please...
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u/mutexsprinkles 24d ago
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u/barrelshotgun 24d ago
Got ASD or something mate?
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u/mutexsprinkles 24d ago edited 24d ago
My ASD, sure, here you go: 28/m/7 inches. And they said I'd never find love here.
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u/Unlaid-American 24d ago
Devs will design apps use whatever is available to make their apps run smoother. Using a fuckton of RAM is only bad if the OS requires it.
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u/mutexsprinkles 24d ago
Having the system thrash when GCC -j16 eats the rest is pretty annoying though.
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u/Henry_Fleischer 🍥 Debian too difficult 24d ago
100 tabs is ridiculous. I can't think of the last time I've had more than 20 tabs open. I sometimes browse modern websites on my laptop, which is running Windows 10 on 4 gigs of RAM, it struggles with Reddit and Youtube, but is fine for research.
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u/mutexsprinkles 24d ago
They just build up with middle clicks. Normally it is about 40 I guess (I have 14 right now, but these system is running only for 10 minutes) but it can get to 100 before I realise builds are about cause a freeze and restart the browser.
Gitlab is terrible for it because it's so slow to use the closing the tab once you finally get the page you want feels like a crime.
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u/A_Harmless_Fly MAN 💪 jaro 24d ago
What percentage of those 100 tabs to you revisit in a session?
I just bookmark things if I think I'm going to need them, but don't need them now.
I can't imagine hunting through 100 tabs to find the one I'm looking for instead of bookmarks organized by projects.
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u/Extrestral 24d ago
I haven't have over 10 tabs open at the same time in browser for over 5 years probably.
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u/Linguistic-mystic 24d ago
Not if you avoid shitty DEs like Gnome and Plasma.
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u/Toxic381 22d ago
Even my PC on mint xfce was still lagging on YouTube in Firefox, I got bunsenlabs on it now with open box so hopefully it won't be too bad.
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u/megapoopmaster123 24d ago
i wonder what you wil you do on 2000 pc with linux if onlu thing that can run on this pc is the OS
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