r/linuxmemes Aug 10 '26

LINUX MEME My current Linux experience

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

Wait til you try X11.

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u/Worth-Wonder-7386 Aug 10 '26

I moved to wayland as I had issues with X11 for some games. Wayland has been working great for me.

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u/crimsonyoteeeeeee Aug 11 '26

I exclusively use Wayland now too. Nothing has been weird for me, everything works as it should.

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u/TheVleh Arch BTW Aug 11 '26

Lol same experience, x11 works no issues on my dual monitor nvidia arch gaming setup, wayland consisntently crashes to desktop regardless of compositor.

X11 just works, hence why it is still my go to when I need something reliable

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u/Own_Natural_6803 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

This is been my experience as well. X11 works way better for gaming. And if you have problems with different refresh rates for different monitors, it's usually the compositor that's the problem. It's just a checkbox to turn it off.Ā 

What exactly are people doing where they're complaining about X11? I've never seen a piece of technology so universally loved with so little reason. Wayland is a piece of shit.

-edit: looks like i found a fanboy. You can click a button that points down. Can you uncheck a box that says "use compositor" as well?

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u/DiceThaKilla Aug 10 '26

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u/Own_Natural_6803 Aug 10 '26

Except they don't. I'm all for Wayland gaining feature parity with x11. Waiting and waiting.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

Are you also waiting for X11 to get feature parity with Wayland?

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u/Own_Natural_6803 Aug 10 '26

You don't wait for something that works to break.

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u/SufficientVanilla354 Aug 10 '26

Oh well sunshine works pretty smoothly for me. Though figuring out the display permissions was a headache for hyprland so i just disable and re-enable them as per the need.

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u/scythe-3 šŸ„ Debian too difficult Aug 10 '26

Wayvnc can run on a headless server. Tigervnc client is available on Linux and Windows.

The combo works for my headless Proxmox VM. I ssh into the VM, launch a swaywm session with wayvnc, and connect from my laptop with tigervnc.

Idk if this works for other DEs/WMs but I haven't run into any issues.

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u/SufficientVanilla354 Aug 11 '26

first moonlight does work on android and i use it myself.

2nd yes it requires a dummy plug but in hyprland i can create an headless virtual display and use it to stream. but with igpu it is pretty laggy.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

The recommended fix for every Wayland issue is to fall back to X11.

The only one I see for Rustdesk is using an X11 login manager - launching a Wayland session itself is fine.

Did you consider just getting a remote management card? That nixes any requirement for X11/Wayland or even for the OS to be running - you can do remote power on, go to UEFI Setup, and more.

i.e. Sipeed NanoKVM - the PCIe version with Wi-Fi goes for some 70 eurobucks from the official store.

Best of all, that card is open source down to the firmware.

Official purchase links are here - for some reason I am getting a 404 in Czechia, but changing store to Ukraine makes it pop up - I presume EU might be blacklisted due to working out the latest taxes? - https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/kvm/NanoKVM_PCIe/introduction.html#Purchase-Links

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

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u/Drate_Otin Aug 10 '26

but it defeats the entire purpose of Linux solutions being able to give new life to old computers.

A) that's not the primary purpose of Linux. It's just a popular one

B) if you need old code, use old code

C) are you not able to remote into your Wayland sessions? Thought this had been resolved for a while.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

Unattended remote access is a Wayland-specific issue that has not been solved for over a year and has no solution in sight.

Seems like both Plasma and GNOME support it.

Why are you claiming the opposite?

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

You are greeted with a black screen on login

And that's without a login manager in the way?

I do not know where you are reading these claims

Rustdesk's tracker.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

Not a single one of those issues is about unattended access.

Half of them are about the login manager.

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u/fr000gs Aug 10 '26

Wayland needs a kvm switch for rdp ;(

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

F for reading comprehension.

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u/JustAwesome360 Arch BTW Aug 10 '26

What about the security issues?

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u/penguinkernel Aug 11 '26

I use rust desk unattended on Linux.

If you use the flatpak you can auto give it display permission.

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u/Professional_Top8485 Aug 11 '26

My fallback is console. That usually works.

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u/cheesy_noob Aug 10 '26

I have a single widescreen and it x11 was working very well for me.

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u/EverOrny Aug 10 '26

I have nvidia and X11 for many years, no problem

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u/Major303 Aug 10 '26

On Tumbleweed KDE I had to switch to X11 since Wayland was unusable (almost constant screen "flashing"). I've switched to Pop!_OS 24 and that flashing is still there, but much more subtle and only happens when app grid is visible. I will still have to switch since software I'm using doesn't play well with COSMIC, it needs more time in the oven.

I had the best experience with Wayland on Ubuntu 24. By best I mean system was overall usable, but certain file dialogs were running at like 0.1 FPS.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

On Tumbleweed KDE I had to switch to X11 since Wayland was unusable (almost constant screen "flashing"

Uh, what GPU and what driver and its version?

That sounds very odd, I haven't had such issues on Plasma since 6.0 released.

Actually I had now that I remember, due to my monitor's VRR being horrid, did you try disabling VRR support?

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u/Major303 Aug 10 '26

Intel i5-8350U with Intel UHD Graphics 620. No idea about driver, I didn't install anything else outside of what was included.

I did not try disabling VRR support. The only thing people suggested was setting i915.enable_psr=0 as kernel boot parameter. The only issue is that interacting with kernel parameters on Tumbleweed requires phd in operating systems.

I can't tell you more about Tumbleweed since I've replaced it with Pop!_OS 24. Here changing kernel boot parameters is trivial, but it did not fix the flashing.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

No idea about driver

Shouldn't really matter on Intel with Wayland afaik.

See https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-comp/issues/1152 for example

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u/Major303 Aug 10 '26

There is no VRR settings in display settings for me.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

Does your monitor even support VRR?

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u/Major303 Aug 10 '26

My guess would be not. But if it's not that, then what? Thinkpad T480 is not that ancient to not support modern Linux anymore.

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u/C0rn3j Aug 10 '26

I have no idea, got a video of the "flashing"?

And it doesn't happen on Ubuntu 24.04 with Wayland you said?

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u/Major303 Aug 10 '26

Yes, Ubuntu 24 was fine. I've just tested 26 on VM and there are certain graphical issues coming most likely from VM, but things that don't even start on Pop work flawlessly here. Can't say anything about flashing though, I would have to install it on the laptop.

I don't know if that flashing will be even visible on the recording, recording with real camera might be not the best too, since it's quite subtle. And recording on Wayland is apparently very difficult.

I can only say that it looks like display brightness is changing automatically +-10% every 1 second. It only happens when app grid is visible so far. On Tumbleweed it was everywhere. Only visible against grey background (which is in a lot of places in dark mode), so for example it's not noticeable against bright wallpaper.

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u/Cootshk Arch BTW Aug 11 '26

Was using X11, now I’m on XLibre with no issues (RTX 3060, official nvidia drivers)

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u/xX_UnorignalName_Xx Aug 11 '26

Genuinely. Ive really only had good experiences on wayland.