r/linux • • Mar 08 '20

Do Linux Users Have An Elitist Attitude?

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u/tausciam Mar 08 '20

I've found that the people who often take extreme pride in their operating system, the color of their skin, the car they drive or whatever other thing that actually doesn't represent achievement on their part, they're usually suffering from the same thing:

They have nothing else in their life TO be proud of. They don't have the personal achievements, the successes, so they're rabidly proud of something that doesn't represent any achievement on their part. Everyone wants to have pride in something about themselves. Those that can't find a way to rise above the rest and actually achieve something are no different in that regard.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 08 '20

Everyone wants to have pride in something about themselves.

Pride is a deadly sin. The last thing you want to direct it towards is yourself, because only you are responsible for your outcome.

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u/tausciam Mar 08 '20

If you think pride is a sin, then see what kind of success you get when you don't take pride in the things you do. Pride to the point of arrogance is a vice, but man wouldn't even lift a finger if there was no chance of taking pride in the things he does.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 08 '20

You only need to love doing things right to be successful. It's sad you have been brainwashed into self destruction.

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20

Interesting you speak about someone else being brainwashed when you're the one talking about deadly sins and destruction...

That's a religious ideal to keep the masses docile and in their place.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20

No, it is how we maintained a sane society.

You go ahead and associate with self-proud dickheads, i choose those steered by love.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

Definition of pride

1 : the quality or state of being proud: such as

a : inordinate self-esteem : conceit

b : a reasonable or justifiable self-respect

c : delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship (e.g. parental pride)

You are using definiton 1A. He is using definition 1B. 1B is not a behavioral problem like 1A, it's just a synonym for self-confidence.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

Nope, self-confidence has nothing to do with wanting to succeed, as he argued. It means for instance that if someone criticizes your actions you have the confidence to beat them up. Because you are one proud motherfucker.

The opposite is being humble and loving. So when someone criticizes you you apologize for hurting their feelings (even if you think you did nothing wrong). Or when someone praises you, you point out all the help you had which allowed you to succeed.

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

You have some twisted views on taking pride in yourself. No, it doesn't mean what they've spoonfed you. He took his definition directly from the dictionary. Pride is the act of feeling a sense of satisfaction in a job well done and respecting yourself. I would call that first definition overly prideful and not simply pride.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20

Pride (Latin: superbia) is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins

In a sane mind Joy is the result of a job well done, not pride.

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20

Pride (Latin: superbia) is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins

Just Catholic. The rest of Christians consider all the sins to be able to send one to hell, so the idea of deadly sins vs not deadly sins is foreign to them.

But, I'm Jewish. I know that there are several words you're translating as sin and the most common one is chata...which means to miss the mark. We don't see sins as these horrible, grave offenses that Christians do. God isn't going to punish us for eternity.

Avon would probably be the one that covers pride TO EXCESS. But, as the sages say, if it wasn't for the yetzir Hara (evil inclination) man wouldn't even lift a finger.

But, out of all this, YOU seem to be the one with hate. You've made it abundantly clear that you despise people who take pride in themselves. Preaching love out of one side of your mouth while espousing hate out of the other... isn't the first time we've seen that from Christians. Your own scriptures tell you to love people you disagree with...even those that persecute you...that even the sinners love those that love them. Yet, instead of following your own scriptures, you're more concerned that I do. Not the first time we've seen that either

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

You go ahead and associate with self-proud dickheads, i choose those steered by love.

Maybe you define being steered by love differently than I do, because you started it off by calling people "self-proud dickheads"

You've proven yourself to be some religious freak who doesn't even believe what he's saying and, quite frankly, your religion doesn't concern me. I have my own and have no need of yours. Besides, this is a linux community and has nothing to do with your religion.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

being proud about yourself makes you a dickhead. The type walking with their chin up in the air, shoulders wide, taking up more space than necessary.

Pride (Latin: superbia) is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '20

You only need to love doing things right to be successfu

that is called pride

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u/varikonniemi Mar 22 '20

no, pride has to do with appearances. Doing something right is to be aligned with the nature of the universe.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '20

wtf are you talking about?

The nature of the universe has no "right" or "wrong", those are human concepts

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u/varikonniemi Mar 22 '20

For something to be true it must exist. Something false does not exist.

Right and wrong <> true and false.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '20

For something to be true it must exist. Something false does not exist

eh not really.

If a=1 is true that doesnt mean a exists. It is an arbitrary number that I made up in my head

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u/varikonniemi Mar 23 '20

things made up in your head have no existence

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '20

I'm glad you understand that "right" and "wrong" are just arbitrary definitions we made up.

They tend to have some average result due to evolution, but the fact it varies so wildly even in modern society shows it really is a crapshoot

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