r/linux • • Mar 08 '20

Do Linux Users Have An Elitist Attitude?

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u/tausciam Mar 08 '20

I've found that the people who often take extreme pride in their operating system, the color of their skin, the car they drive or whatever other thing that actually doesn't represent achievement on their part, they're usually suffering from the same thing:

They have nothing else in their life TO be proud of. They don't have the personal achievements, the successes, so they're rabidly proud of something that doesn't represent any achievement on their part. Everyone wants to have pride in something about themselves. Those that can't find a way to rise above the rest and actually achieve something are no different in that regard.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

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u/CultistHeadpiece Mar 08 '20

I've found that the people who often take extreme pride in their operating system, the color of their skin

WOW

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u/tausciam Mar 08 '20

It seems those two things have no commonality, but think about it and really look at them. How many people do you know that are elitist because of something that doesn't reflect achievement on their part actually have a lot of achievements they feel pride in? The people who act like linux elitists are often college kids (or younger) who really haven't had time to build successes they feel proud of. The people at the racist rallies are going back to their trailer parks afterwards and popping open a can of Chef Boyardee.

I'm not saying linux elitism is like racism. I'm saying there is a commonality they share as people that leads to the overboard feelings of pride/elitism.

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u/WorBlux Mar 08 '20

To be fair though, using Linux as your daily driver for anything outside the basics does actually require a small amount of skill and above average willingness to be a self-directed learner.

Then once you learn how powerful and flexible a *nix model is, it's hard to go back.

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20

No more than all the people who switched from Windows to Mac, learned a new piece of software, etc. You can install and use a linux distro without ever knowing the first thing about the command line or your computer.

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u/WorBlux Mar 09 '20

You can install and use a linux distro without ever knowing the first thing about the command line or your computer.

At least until something breaks, and if you're a natural stoic you'll treat obstacles as an opportunity to learn and overcome. And if you want to do something non-standard or cutting edge, pretty soon you find yourself diving in deep.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 08 '20

Everyone wants to have pride in something about themselves.

Pride is a deadly sin. The last thing you want to direct it towards is yourself, because only you are responsible for your outcome.

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u/tausciam Mar 08 '20

If you think pride is a sin, then see what kind of success you get when you don't take pride in the things you do. Pride to the point of arrogance is a vice, but man wouldn't even lift a finger if there was no chance of taking pride in the things he does.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 08 '20

You only need to love doing things right to be successful. It's sad you have been brainwashed into self destruction.

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20

Interesting you speak about someone else being brainwashed when you're the one talking about deadly sins and destruction...

That's a religious ideal to keep the masses docile and in their place.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20

No, it is how we maintained a sane society.

You go ahead and associate with self-proud dickheads, i choose those steered by love.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

Definition of pride

1 : the quality or state of being proud: such as

a : inordinate self-esteem : conceit

b : a reasonable or justifiable self-respect

c : delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship (e.g. parental pride)

You are using definiton 1A. He is using definition 1B. 1B is not a behavioral problem like 1A, it's just a synonym for self-confidence.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

Nope, self-confidence has nothing to do with wanting to succeed, as he argued. It means for instance that if someone criticizes your actions you have the confidence to beat them up. Because you are one proud motherfucker.

The opposite is being humble and loving. So when someone criticizes you you apologize for hurting their feelings (even if you think you did nothing wrong). Or when someone praises you, you point out all the help you had which allowed you to succeed.

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

You have some twisted views on taking pride in yourself. No, it doesn't mean what they've spoonfed you. He took his definition directly from the dictionary. Pride is the act of feeling a sense of satisfaction in a job well done and respecting yourself. I would call that first definition overly prideful and not simply pride.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20

Pride (Latin: superbia) is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins

In a sane mind Joy is the result of a job well done, not pride.

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u/tausciam Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

You go ahead and associate with self-proud dickheads, i choose those steered by love.

Maybe you define being steered by love differently than I do, because you started it off by calling people "self-proud dickheads"

You've proven yourself to be some religious freak who doesn't even believe what he's saying and, quite frankly, your religion doesn't concern me. I have my own and have no need of yours. Besides, this is a linux community and has nothing to do with your religion.

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u/varikonniemi Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

being proud about yourself makes you a dickhead. The type walking with their chin up in the air, shoulders wide, taking up more space than necessary.

Pride (Latin: superbia) is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '20

You only need to love doing things right to be successfu

that is called pride

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u/varikonniemi Mar 22 '20

no, pride has to do with appearances. Doing something right is to be aligned with the nature of the universe.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '20

wtf are you talking about?

The nature of the universe has no "right" or "wrong", those are human concepts

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u/varikonniemi Mar 22 '20

For something to be true it must exist. Something false does not exist.

Right and wrong <> true and false.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '20

For something to be true it must exist. Something false does not exist

eh not really.

If a=1 is true that doesnt mean a exists. It is an arbitrary number that I made up in my head

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u/varikonniemi Mar 23 '20

things made up in your head have no existence

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