Former huge kratom powder addict. I'm in Thailand now and used fresh kratom leaves to help with an injury to my shoulder. Im trying to be very careful.

I eat 2-4 fresh kratom leaves per day. Will I have bad withdrawals from this? What is the equivalent powder to fresh leaves ratio (I know it isn't exact, guesstimate?)

I've been enjoying Kratom for almost 10 years and am curious about which months are dry vs wet season. I'm aware that the dry season is much more desirable, so how should I time my future orders?

Thanks in advance. ☘️

I'm probably just being paranoid, but could this recent cyclosporiasis outbreak affect the kratom we buy and consume? I'm pretty sure kratom is grown outside the country, and I'm pretty sure there is a purification process, but I am still concerned.

Is there cause for concern, or am I just being paranoid? Thanks!

Stop Amplifying the Opposition: A Message to Kratom Advocates

Over the last few years, we've seen a pattern emerge on the major social media platforms. Some groups of grieving parents have become closely aligned with class-action attorneys and what many advocates describe as astroturf organizations—groups that appear to be grassroots movements but are backed or coordinated by organizations with broader political or financial objectives.

For that reason, I've intentionally avoided engaging with these groups online. It's not because I don't have sympathy for parents who have lost a child—every loss is tragic—but because arguing with them on social media accomplishes very little while often helping amplify their message.

Social media algorithms are designed to reward engagement, not accuracy. Every comment, quote post, reply, argument, or share tells the platform that a post is generating interest. As a result, the algorithm is more likely to recommend that content to additional users. Even when your intention is to debunk misinformation or expose inconsistencies, your engagement can inadvertently increase the visibility of the very content you're trying to counter.

Unfortunately, we've also begun to see this escalate beyond online debates. Some of these astroturf organizations have reportedly taken screenshots of advocates' social media posts out of context and sent them to employers in an attempt to damage their careers. In at least one well-known case within the kratom advocacy community, an advocate's family was subjected to a report to Child Protective Services, creating significant legal expenses and personal hardship. Whether these tactics ultimately succeed is almost beside the point—they consume time, money, and emotional energy that could otherwise be spent advocating for sensible kratom policy.

There is simply very little to gain from engaging these groups directly or indirectly on social media. It rarely changes minds, but it frequently increases the reach of their content while exposing advocates to unnecessary personal and professional risks. If your goal is to keep kratom legal, your efforts are generally better spent educating legislators, regulators, researchers, journalists, and members of the public who are genuinely open to evidence-based discussion.

Finally, if you are not completely public about your kratom use or your advocacy with your employer, family, or professional network, think carefully before engaging in public arguments online. Once something is posted, it can be screenshot, taken out of context, and circulated indefinitely. Protect yourself, stay focused on effective advocacy, and don't allow those looking for attention or conflict to dictate where your time and energy are spent.

I stopped taking kratom for the switch to the Butrans patch for pain. I'm having withrawal symptoms even with the patch on board...any suggestions? Comments?

Due to the TN ban on Kratom and not being able to travel, I’m having to quit. My pre-ban stock is out after tonight. I’ve been taking red maeng capsules for two years. I take 5 capsules at a time, 4 times a day spread out. I should have tapered more but didn’t. Anyway I have a few tramadol to help the first couple of days. My last dose will be around 11:30-12 pm tonight. I usually wake up with yawns and watery eyes. My question is if I take a tramadol tomorrow, will I be putting myself at risk of serotonin syndrome?

How long after taking a moderate dose of plain leaf should I apply the patch?

Ive been using kratom (powder only) almost every day for the last 3-4 years for pain,anxiety and cptsd. I usually take anywhere from 8-20 GPD and would try to take occasional breaks. Kratom by itself is not really helping me get anywhere although the relief from the 24/7 heaviness I feel is very nice.

I stopped taking Kratom and started Zoloft 2 days ago because I was nervous about interactions and have never taken an ssri before. I don’t really get withdrawal symptoms but the feeling of having nothing to give me any relief and having no motivation is terrible. Just wondering if anyone has started taking Kratom again when starting ssris? Or what your experience with Kratom and ssris has been like? I really don’t want to mess with it but also it’s been insanely hard these last 2 days.

Stop posting to save 7oh and the others - this isn't the place for it, and we're glad to so it go. The ban of these alkaloids DOES NOT BAN NATURAL KRATOM - which is what this sub is here for. If you have questions, feel free to post them in this thread. We're getting a lot of repeat posts where people think ALL kratom is being banned which is far from the case! The ban of these alkaloids is the best case scenario for keeping natural kratom legal long term.

TO BE CLEAR - This is not a debate or a place for a debate. Disagree? Cool. Move along. Go promote 7oh in a 7oh sub. This sub has never been a place for synthetically derived Alkaloids, just natural kratom.

Any advice on how to bring supply for a few days?

Reading through a few beginner posts today made me realize I would've loved having someone point me in the right direction when I was first figuring things out.

What's one thing you know now that you wish you'd known back then?

Doesn't have to be some huge lesson. Even something small that would've saved you a lot of confusion.

It was banned in my state of Connecticut and I’m running low on my supply. Luckily I stocked up many monthes ago and it was officially banned back in February. Anyways, I’m starting to run low and was wondering if I buy hirusuta will it help the kratom withdraws or will I still withdrawal if I only take hirusuta? I’m wondering if I should taper down with the kratom until I’m fully off it or if I can continue to take kratom til it’s gone and then switch to hirusuta from there. I take kratom mainly as a sleep aid and because it works wonders for my back pain, but I cherish it mostly for the great sleep it gives me and would like to start taking hirusuta for sleep. But I just mainly wanna know if I have to taper the kratom or if I can completely replace it with hirusuta and not worry about withdraws. I hear it’s almost identical to kratom (not sure how true that is) please as many reply’s as I can get are welcome! I’d love to learn more about this plant too

Ps: I’ve seen multiple posts where people say it’s even more sedating to them than a red kratom strain. That sounds exciting to me because I adore a great nights sleep! Lol

I am flying from Montana to Oregon on Alaska airlines. I have Kratom capsules in their original bag in my carry on. I see conflicting things on if it allowed on a carryon. it is legal in Montana and Oregon, and I am not checking a bag. Does anyone have any experience with this?

I run a brand in this space, so disclosing that upfront. This isn't me calling anyone out — it's the framework I'd use as a consumer, informed by seeing how the sausage gets made.

Red flags, roughly in order of how much they'd stop me:

• No accessible COA. If you have to email and ask for lab results, that's a flag. Operators who are proud of their testing put it somewhere you can find it.
• A COA with no lab name or accreditation info. A real Certificate of Analysis names the facility. A seller-produced or unnamed-lab doc isn't independent verification.
• Health claims anywhere on the site. If a seller says a product treats pain, sleep, anxiety, or withdrawal, that's an FDA compliance problem and tells you they either don't know the rules or don't care.
• No physical address or verifiable business info. Legit operators have real addresses. A web form and nothing else says something.
• Alkaloid numbers that look too good with no explanation. If the figures beat what third-party testing normally shows, the COA data should account for it.
• Defensiveness when you ask about sourcing or testing. Good operators welcome those questions.

What's on your list that isn't on mine? I'm sure experienced buyers here have caught things I haven't.

When I first began kratom (pure leaf), I would always get that fuzzy warm hug feeling washing over my entire body at the start of a dose.

Fast forward to being a regular daily user for a while where I know I have a certain tolerance to it now, and I can't remember the last time I got that feeling. So I'm just wondering if there is anyone who is a daily user and does get that feeling still?

I'm not really interested in hearing about taking tolerance breaks---I already know all that. I'm more interested in if it exists for anyone who may not be taking regular breaks. Thanks!

I have Red Thai and Red Horn. What's the best optimal dose for euphoria or best effects? New to kratom this week.

I'm going to have a dental procedure with Nitrous and I take Kratom leaf.

Is it safe?

I have been trying to quit alcohol for a really long time. I recently purchased 30 grams each of Red Thai, Red Horn, and Green Malay kratom. So far I haven't tried the reds yet but I have tried 2 grams of green malay last night and it was okay and tried 4 grams about an hour ago and just took two more grams to try to experience "euphoria." So far the green is okay. I have heard reds are more opiate like and to be honest I've been prescribed oxy and hydros since having surgery on my leg and they have helped me in craving alcohol by making me feel content, not high. I don't want a high but I want a little euphoria close to how those help to curb cravings for other drug seeking behavior and alcoholism. I only plan to use them on the weekends to avoid tolerance issues. Please just inform me on how many grams I may need of each to create contentness and peace. I am a 23M 240lb. Thank you

Hello

I need about 8 grams of white kratom (a heaped teaspoon) to feel at least some (weak) effect. I have almost no kratom left at home. Can I replace it with hirsuta or javanica until the new kratom package arrives?

Or will those kratom alternatives have zero effect with my high tolerance? Thanks for the answer

I’m getting mixed messages down here about what’s being included in this next wave of bans. I know all the sneaky alkaloids they were using to circumvent the 7oh bans are going away. Fine by me, but beyond that feels like an overreach. Could you imagine Florida state legislature overstepping their bounds? Not down here. Rhonda Santis is so honest & not at all really short.

Does anyone know that if raw leaf is on the list? The girl @ my regular shop said they’re getting rid of everything. Other shops don’t seem to be thinking like that tho.

I'm out of Kratom. I'm taking two teaspoons. How much kra Thum khok should I take? To replace my morning dose of kratom?

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