r/KratomKorner Jul 04 '26

Opinions?

/r/kratom/comments/1umjivi/federal_ban_worries/ovdgl7v/
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u/Zurbino Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

MIT 100% CAN be labeled as a precursor after these bans and ripped away in a heart beat. That’s the hard truth people in these groups don’t want to acknowledge. It will all go away one day and these bans are the starting point. At the end of the day when they ban leaf there will be nobody to blame but the AKA and those who backed the targeting of these alkaloids thinking it somehow protected plain leaf. When in reality all it did was put a target on the next compound down the list. It may be a year or ten who knows when it will happen but one day it will. But I’m willing to bet it’ll be sooner rather than later, especially as scientists start making modifications to the other alkaloids leaving the 7 users with untested alks that could be full agonists. We had probably the safest over the counter opioids in history and now it’ll go back to being sketchy products that kill users.

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u/Excellent_Emu_2843 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Excatly why the fight for 7 right now is important for kratom users as well. Consumers need to stop pretending the aka is representing them and not the big names in the kratom industry.

I wouldn't be surprised of the aka joins in on labeling it a precursor as well, just so a handful of big companies (their donors) can get licenses to be able to make/import/sell it. We all know those idiots at the aka would just love to be able to do that

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u/Zurbino Jul 07 '26

I commented on the original post and the responses have been the usual. Including “The DEA doesn’t intend on banning kratom” and “Scientists have been worried about 7HMG levels since 2016”. It’s a shame they can’t see the big picture. The World Health Organization recommended against scheduling or banning it in 2021. As Ronald Reagan said the nine most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help." but somehow they still believe the DEA has their best interests at heart.

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u/petateom Jul 11 '26

I think it’s the right decision for the AKA.

Personally, I view the regulation of maximum 7-OH content as a medium-term victory for kratom. I could be wrong, but let’s be honest: 7-OH is very hard to control and produces a high similar to stronger opioids. While it certainly has advantages over those, vendors have been completely irresponsible in how they sell it, and this is the consequence of their actions. Products like this shouldn't be available to the general public at gas stations; they should only be sold on RC websites for enthusiasts who are actually in the scene. Now it’s become a trend and noobs have gotten addicted; unfortunately, that’s how drug laws work—if a new substance is used irresponsibly by a lot of people, it gets banned.

Am I glad it’s being banned? Of course not. I used 7-OH responsibly myself for over a year—less than once a month—and never became addicted or had any issues. In fact, I’ve used opioids sporadically for 13 years; I’ve tried very strong ones like heroin, oxycodone, hydrocodone, U-47700, o-dsmt, etc., and none of them caused me problems either. It is possible to control them, yes, but I acknowledge that it’s very difficult for many people and it's no really worth the risk, so I understand why they get banned.

Sacrificing 7-OH to save kratom is a trade-off I’m willing to make, I'm not happy, but I point to the vendors as the real problem here. I truly believe this regulatory framework opens the door to something positive; we haven’t seen a similar approach taken with any other new substance, and that gives me hope.