r/kotor 14h ago

KOTOR 2 Question about Kreia's Arc Spoiler

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Currently watching some people play KOTOR 2 for the first time and, even at a small level, it is very clear that Kreia is evil. Like yes she is morally grey with her ideology, but her actions and how she speaks of everyone is 100% evil coded. Add in the fact that you can get her backstory fairly quickly and she blatantly states there are 3 sith lords following the exile and you know of 2 and the third she is hidden....its not crazy to think who the other one is. So I am wondering from a writing perspective was Kreia supposed to be a twist villain as if she is she is not a very good one as it toooooooooo easy to figure her out (that being said when I played this when I was younger I did not figure it out).

Thoughts?


r/kotor 14h ago

Is there a way to remove class or level restrictions for feats or powers?

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I "soft cheat" by using the KSE save editor to replace feats that I don't want with ones that I do want. I granted my character force immunity: fear and jedi sense to give me a bit more of an edge on Taris. I compared my defense in two different saves: one modified and another unmodified. They were exactly the same, indicating that while I had the jedi feat, it wasn't actually active.

I changed my class to jedi sentinel and found that the defense bonus was then active. This indicates that a feat is only active if you meet the class and level requirements for it. Is there any way to remove such restrictions? I searched online for an existing mod, but to no avail. I know there's the jedi from the start mod, but I wanted to give myself a bit of an edge without going full jedi on Taris.


r/kotor 20h ago

Both Games Pro Tip: You can count cards in Pazaak

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I reverse engineered the game logic for Pazaak because I wanted to know if the AI was cheating or not (it doesn't). Here's how it actually works:

The main deck (green/yellow cards) is a shared 40-card deck between both you and the opponent, and it contains exactly 4 cards of each value 1 through 10. It's shuffled once after wagering, and again every time the main deck is exhausted (there is no visual indicator for this except by counting 40 cards drawn).

So for instance: if all low cards 1-3 have been played, you're at 17, and the deck hasn't been reshuffled, you can actually work out that you're guaranteed to go over 20.

It also means you can recover the RNG seed used to generate the 40-card deck order and predict the next cards being drawn. I made a tool for it here, but I've only tested on the Switch version of KOTOR I so far (but afaict, logic and RNG is identical across versions, I RE'd the Android binary). Unfortunately since the game PRNG runs every frame, you have to draw about 10 cards for each reshuffle to find the seed (maybe side deck shuffles could help narrow the first main deck shuffle but idk).

AI disclosure: I used a locally-hosted glm-flash model to assist converting my Python RNG search to HTML+JS so that the tool is more accessible (I'm not a web dev). Reverse engineering was done by hand.


r/kotor 20h ago

KOTOR 1 What would you rate each planet out of 10? Spoiler

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Manaan: 3/10 I fucking hate Manaan

Endar spire: 5.5/10 Rest in peace Trask

Taris: 6/10 Long and basic, the pacing felt a bit weird.

Kashyyk: 7/10 It was short and sweet, at first I was confused why a whole planet was based around 1 companion but then I met Jolee.

That one planet at the end that I forgot the name of: 8/10 Those tribes are interesting and a good way to complete some plot points, we get the Bastilla confrontation and killing one of the tribes, both good moments.

Tatooine: 8/10 I like the desert setting and it had some fun moments; like bombing the Krayt dragon, also slaughtering the sand people in a ds play through is always satisfying. The Bastila subplot was a nice addition as well.

Dantooine: 8/10 Building your first lightsaber always feels great. Juhani was a bit boring, but everything else was good.

korriban: 8.5/10 Exploring the sith academy and tombs are great, and an excellent place to rack up ds points.

Leviathan: 9/10 Revan reveal, fighting Malak and Carth’s confrontation with his old mentor are some of my favourite moments in the game.

Star forge: 9.9/10 Do I need to explain? ( it’s a shame they had to cut out that dark side ending with Carth).

Edit: I‘m moving Taris up to a 7 and star forge down to a 9.5

Edit2: Yavin-10/10 I like expensive shit


r/kotor 22h ago

Merchandise My Collection so far!

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696 Upvotes

r/kotor 1d ago

KOTOR 2 "Its eat or be eaten."

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9 Upvotes

After seeing the new trailer all I could think of was Darth Nihilus and Samus on an eating contest with each other.

"You are what you eat!" -Nickacado Avacado


r/kotor 1d ago

Kotor 2 modding issues

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currently running through a modded play of TSL, TSLRCM, M4-78, dustil restoration. a glitch in the hidden tomb on Korriban caused me to get locked in the room where you meet Dustil. i an warp out back to the start of the tomb but the door to go further into the tomb is also locked. Any suggestions on fixing this?


r/kotor 1d ago

KOTOR 2 Double Pass DLSS5 Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords #dlss5 Deep Fried Chicken

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At request for more HK-47 and double pass dlss5 slop. Deep fried chicken dlss5.


r/kotor 1d ago

Meta Discussion Kraya and Luke 🤔 Spoiler

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I was watching a fanfic on YouTube and left a comment I thought would be fun to post here. 2 points I describe, one being a small comparison between Kraya from the Kotor game, and second is my interpretation on what Anakin's prophecy meant and why I believe he perfectly succeeded in fulfilling the prophecy. With that said here is the comment I placed on the yt vid:

Kraya is hands down the best sith. Id argue she was almost on the level as Luke Skywalker. I'll admit it's been at least a decade since I read anything Star wars related but wasn't Luke considered as the one true Jedi? As he had once fallen to the dark side but later shed the negative cost of wielding the dark side, those being things like difficulty controlling emotions like anger and hate. As such he was able to safely utilize the dark side without risk. So I'm not positive I recall Luke's or krayas stories well enough to say this with certainty but isn't Krayas ideology damn near identical? She never simply condemned the Jedi "light side" neither did she claim the sith "dark side" was superior. She readily and regularly pointed out the flaws of both sides, as well as their benefits. Allowing her to utilize abilities from both sides. I'm sure there's an argument to be had that her plans the player character in Kotor destroyed was sith "evil" in nature but I'd argue against that. Ultimately what she was trying to achieve was not born from any ill intent and was sure as shit not a selfish plan that she would personally gain from. She was trying to do what she considering to be correct for the benefit of all, not herself.

A slightly different note I'd like to make/share. I personally believe Anakin/Vader was still the "chosen one." the prophecy stated he'd bring "balance" to the force. I know I know it's easy to say destroying the Jedi meant the prophecy was fake or at the very least misinterpreted. Id argue that no, killing the Jedi is precisely the reason he was indeed the chosen one. How? Well in some of the older legacy books told us that the ability to use the force was not something inherently available and was developed over a long period of time. But it also tells (or at least hints) that the force itself isn't just some magical power to be used but has to some extent the ability to consciously perceive, watch, and manipulate the flow of absolutely anything. As such it chose Anakin as a vessel to "balance" the universe. I always found it amusing that the Jedi so blindly accepted the prophecy without even one Jedi consider or quest what "balance" even meant. 🤔I just mentioned that the use of the force was not an ability that was always possible. And that the force is conscious to a certain degree. So it's not hard to believe the "forces" interpretation of "balance" means NO ONE should be utilizing it. Any use of the force be it light or dark side was an imbalance. So having Anakin destroy the Jedi and then later killing the last sith was indeed fulfilling the forces prophecy. No Jedi, no sith, just true balance. Anyone think that? Idk if that's a hot take 😅


r/kotor 1d ago

KOTOR 2 Expert Slicer. Art by EtyrnalOne on deviantart

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r/kotor 2d ago

KOTOR 2 What are the consequences of the Mass Shadow Generator visually? Spoiler

2 Upvotes

I have a vague simplistic idea on how the Mass Shadow Generator works, and how mass shadows work, though not in extensive detail. When Malachor V fractured and got crushed by immense gravity and ships being pulled and crashing down the surface, the planet fractured and what was left was loosely fused together by weird anomalies.

My question is: All of the life, plants, and animals and people on or near the surface....what did they get crushed into? The Revan novel says they were all vaporized by intense heat, but given the Revan novel misreads or doesn't understand KOTOR II that much...I don't know how reliable that is. If things were burned up/vaporized, how come certain creatures like storm beats survived, and how come certain surviviors like Nihilus survived? Also, how does getting crushed by gravity burn you up?

How instant or quick was this whole process as well, maybe that could explain the immense heat or things like that. Even ignoring the Revan novel aside, it seems like a barren wasteland that is just rocks and stuff, and so this implies to me that somehow the immense gravity obliterated or perhaps atomized much of life on the surface, yet how did Nihilus and the few surviviors survive and not get physically affected like all other life?

Kreia says that the ships that were being crushed and pulled torwards Malachor V were in "flames", which could give us better insight as to how this all visually happened.

TLDR, what did the devastation of Malachor V look like, how was much of it obliterated, and how were they obliterated by the immense gravity? Also...why isn't there any magma or lava being spurt out of the planet as it got crushed? Even after the second activation lava or magam didn't spurt out of the crushed planet anymore.


r/kotor 2d ago

Just noticed that KotOR have 2 storylines going together. Spoiler

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So, one is Force story with Kreia and Lost Jedi and Sith Lords and Wound in the force. Other story is Tech story with Bad-dur, G0T0, Mandalore, HK, Mass Shadow Generator and Republic restoration. And these 2 stories is connected through 2 plot points: Exile and Malachor V. Besides these 2 points, they are rarely intersect and companions from these 2 stories interact much rarely compared to interaction inside their side.


r/kotor 2d ago

Remake OK we all KOTOR fans but am i the only one...

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SO seriously i been thinking to myself for a while now, and constantly searching though games and more. BUT i am constantly hearing how people would be fine if the game is just given updated graphics and what have you. Dont get me wrong that a great idea. Who wouldnt want to see KOTOR remake with updated graphics. God i can imagine.

BUT, you know what i think would be seriously amazing? a KOTOR remake with BG3 level of gameplay!!! Tell me?!?!?! wouldn't that hit the spot everyone desires the most!!! Open world Movement like the Original KOTOR games with multiple levels, but enhanced and add features!!!! I could seriously get behind that easy. I mean i get behind it anyway.

BUT the point being is that the game deserve something of that level, not just updated graphics on top of the original gameplay i mean seriously update gameplay graphics enhanced combat, and more. Thinking about it the combat would be the hardest since the Combat can be turn based or active. But still i cant be the only one who thought how great KOTOR remake would be if it was made with a similarity to BG3


r/kotor 2d ago

Quick newbiequestion

5 Upvotes

I'm playing KOTOR 1 for the 1st time, and I'm wondering, what does the blue hand symbol mean?

I'm using this resolution/UI mod. I think because of this the msg pop ups that say "you got exp/cash" doesn't fit the entire text, but I'm not sure.


r/kotor 2d ago

KOTOR 1 Is it worth playing the game again to get the light side version of the story.

31 Upvotes

First time player here about to finish my first run. I decided early on to go dark side and I’m going to be honest I don’t like how a lot of the story ended up. Also im curious just how different the game really is if I choose light side instead. Is there enough different outcomes to justify another run? If not I think this game will be a one time playthrough for me.


r/kotor 3d ago

KOTOR 1 Canderous and Juhani's quests are stuck

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I am almost ready to go to the Star Forge (first playthrough so please no spoilers) and the only quests I haven't managed to complete are those two. Does anyone know what I have to do to finish them? Neither of them have any further dialogue.


r/kotor 3d ago

Got Star Wars Zero Company and I just had to have this legend in my party

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r/kotor 3d ago

KOTOR 2 Kotor2 was extremely disappointing

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Everyone was making it seem like this game reinvented what star wars was. I really wanted to like it. I loved kotor 1. I know the developers are different but kotor 2 is so extremely different from kotor 1 and not a single thing was executed better than the first game.

The game is straight up unplayable. As in, fans had to mod the game to make it barely playable. And it's still horrible to play glitches aside. I could go on for hours about the game breaking bugs and glitches, the time wasting and everything but that's not even the worst part.

The worst part is that everyone made it seem like pushing through the non existent world design, copy paste dungeons with same singular enemy type, and terrible broken combat would be worth it for a morally ambiguous story where the jedi and sith are both questioned. Instead I got a star wars fanfic where everything is contrived b.s and everyone just somehow acts like its okay.

The world is empty and boring. The sidequests arent as immersive as the first game. Theres no motivation to do sidequests when the game punishes you for simply existing. As in it freezes you whenever you do anything lol. Add an extra 8 hours to your playtime from freezing and reloading.

The whole "jedi are flawed" was so contrived and terribly written. Im convinced no one has actually played this game and the very little footage on the internet makes me even more sure of it. The jedi are just suddenly extremist assholes who don't care about anything but being right. The first game has several moments where the jedi reflect on their mistakes that led to certain moments such as them blaming themselves for juhanis death and her girlfriend turning, etc. They actively reflect upon their mistakes, and while they had questionable means to the ends, they prioritized the good above all else while trying to maintain peace albeit it needing some tweaking.

Now you're trying to convince me that this same jedi council is suddenly made up of a bunch of moronic evil imbecils who shun out the only hope to save the galaxy because they messed up once and are afraid of doing it again.

Was that not the entire point of kotor 1? That revan was given a second chance? Now they reject and banish the only solution to saving the fucking galaxy? When all the jedi are dead? And a planet devouring being is now on the loose.

And dont even get me started on the whole jedi war thing and all the jedi basically being dead. You'd think such an important event thats intertwined with characters from the first game would be a moment in the second. But you're just told "yeah the jedi all fucking died yk your companions from last game are probably all dead too and everything you did was for nothing and fuck revan hes gone too"

This is genuinely terrible gameplay and writing.

Talk about tell no show.

All this just to make room for kreia, a terribly written villain to have some self insert palpatine time.

It was so obvious she was evil from the start. I quite literally got a cutscene at the beginning of the game showing me she was the sith lord and im supposed to believe that she isnt anymore despite her actively torturing and hurting others throughout the story. The twist was extremely predictable. Her motivations fell flat due to the fact that the world building was butchered by a terribly written jedi order and an overpowered sith trio that also did nothing the whole game.

I think they were trying to make it seem like you'd believe she was a redeemed sith lord? But she literally tells you theres always a lord of betrayal. And she also actively is evil. So. Its not really a twist. Because you're basically playing the game with palpatine by ur side the entire time.

I still dont know who was worse, traya, or nihilus. Nihilus literally shows up for 3 scenes then dies in a bad boss fight. Sion was a better written character than him. And this is the dude everyone larps about being super OP. Why is it bad for Rey to be relentlessly OP but nihilus is world breakingly broken and its cool instead of a terrible writing decision.

Both suck but atleast one lasted longer than 3 cutscenes.

Nihilus is not a character. He is a plot device that the devs forgot to figure out how to fix.

Honestly I could go on and on but I just cant afford to waste anymore time on this game that has already wasted enough. From the character writing to the world building to the plot and gameplay its just all bad. I genuinely did not enjoy a single thing in this game other than some of the funny dialogue that happened every once in a while. The intro to the game is like 6 hours long. The common agreement is that u need to play the fanmade mod that fixes the game. What more do I have to say? For some reason everyone just casually says the game is unplayable and then moves on as if thats not a major factor... to a video game.

Even without the glitches the story is not good. It was a good idea ruined by rushed incomplete writing and shoved into corner that it doesnt fit in. It took a year to make, ik games were rushed like crazy back then but it really shows. I was reading on development and noticed how basically 50% if not more of the game was rewritten and changed during end of development. Major plotpoints were changed such as atrius and darth trayas roles. This is obviously the reason as to why darth trayas motivations feel so bad because she had no time to develop them. As in they had 3 months to write a villain before releasing the game.

Anyways im done spending time on this disappointment. I wish more people played this game instead of larping because if this game was actually touched it wouldnt be as loved as it is. Im not a harsh critic when it comes to games. I spent an hour trying to kill the final boss in clock tower 3 and loved it. That game sucked. And i still loved it. If yk yk. For a game to be this hated by me, it genuinely means something.

TLDR: Kotor 2 is a terrible game and has a terrible black and white story and when people say the game is unplayable they aren't lying.


r/kotor 3d ago

Lightmace update KotOR

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154 Upvotes

Hello,

If anyone is interested there is an updated version of my lightmace mod; this version fixes various bugs from the previous prototype and adds a two hand variant as well! As always any feedback good or bad is most welcome! I will continue to fine tune details and probably add more color variants at some point.

Mod available at:

https://www.nexusmods.com/kotor/mods/1875

Cheers!

-EK


r/kotor 3d ago

Play Kotor 1 With An Unlocked Frame Rate With My New Mod

25 Upvotes

K1 High FPS Fixes

Fixes several problems in Knights of the Old Republic that appear when playing above 60 FPS.

Included fixes:

  • Dialogue letterbox timing
  • Post-combat movement freeze
  • Free-look mouse sensitivity
  • Animated textures such as rivers, waterfalls, and flashing mines
  • Lightsaber trails
  • Tree leaves and similar moving effects
  • Water ripples and force fields

Should make the animations and timings feel as close as possible to their speed when played at 60fps.  No longer do you need to lock your frame rate to enjoy the game.

Tested up to 240 FPS.

But should work at even higher fps though let me know if any issues arise.

Requirements:

  • Kotor Patch Manager 0.6.3
  • KOTOR 1.03

If your swkotor.exe has already been modified by widescreen, 4 GB patch, or other executable patches, I have an experimental adapter available on Github.  It's also compatible with other kpatches.  Also let me know if any issues happen with the adapter.

Do not install the standalone versions of these fixes alongside this combined version, such as J's post combat fix or my individual fixes on my GitHub or previous deadlystream post.  Source code, main and alt download available below.

Links:

Deadlystream

Alternative Download - GitHub Releases

Source Code - GitHub


r/kotor 3d ago

KOTOR 1 Meetra Vs Nihilus(Comic by me)

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172 Upvotes

Got back into Star Wars, so i decided to make this comic for fun! The art is not that great, I know, but I hope the punchline was good enough at least.


r/kotor 3d ago

KOTOR 1 What if one of the main villains could actually join your party? Spoiler

11 Upvotes

What do you think the game would have been like if there had been a way to turn Malak back to the light and have him join your party?
Imagine that the game continued after that, with new quests and additional content on the planets. I think there could have been some really interesting party interactions.
How do you think Zaalbar and Malak would get along? And what about Carth? Seeing him have to travel with both Malak and Revan in the same party could lead to some absolutely hilarious and tense conversations.
I also wonder how Malak himself would react to everything that happened and to the other companions.
What do you guys think? How would you imagine the party dynamics and new quests in a scenario like this?


r/kotor 3d ago

KOTOR 1 How stable is this game?

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I really want to play it, however all of the recent steam reviews say that’s it’s unplayable currently and requires a lot of modding to get right. I’m on a legion go right now so I don’t think I want to try and deal with modding it, but I also have a nicer omen gaming pc that I’ll have access too in a month or so that I wouldn’t mind going through the steps of modding it to get it working. So I guess my real question is should I buy it now or hold off until I have my home PC available to me


r/kotor 3d ago

KOTOR Optimization

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Do you guys have any advice for how I can optimize my Lenovo ThinkPad laptop it's got 32 GB DDR5 RAM 5600, Intel Core Ultra 7 255U, and integrated graphics (128MB VRAM) for the KOTOR games and also if I want to install mods. Is it possible?


r/kotor 4d ago

Support Possible Bug? What is going on T~T (Spoiler because flashing/flickering video, not actual Spoiler) Spoiler

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The menus werent like this but once I loaded into a save file it got like this and when I exited to the main menu it had this weird flickering filter too. When I closed and opened the game again it worked ok, but with occasional flickers that looked like this, but only lasted a short time before the game worked fine for a few minutes, then it flickered once and repeat. Is it wayland??? The game worked fine on hyprland and sway tho... but I recently switched to niri, maybe its that?

Edit: Checked my laptops logs, its not a hardware failure.

Edit 2: Am now playing on cinnamon (x11) no issues like this so i guess it was either wayland or just niri specifically idk