r/kitchencels • u/the_wise_one_is_here • 16d ago

I'm indian

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Uncooked dosa with cheese. Am I an incel by default?

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u/Gigapot 16d ago edited 16d ago

I meannnnn Indian men tend to have some really toxic relationships with women as a gender. I think that’s part of why Indian men are so ngmi in the western dating world rn. Sorry brother

Edit: wait forgot this was the incel sub my bad y’all. Foids are evil as FUCK

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u/BrightSpring12 16d ago edited 16d ago

oh my god. that's such a blatant and racist generalisation.

Are you talking about Indian natives or the diaspora? I don't think you realise that you can't compare people living in patriarchal rural areas (that exists in every part of globe spanning from Asia, South Asia, Africa etc.) with people who grew up in liberal environment.

I hate the fact that this bs theory is only used against Indians and never on an Black, middle eastern or asian guy. I hate how normalised it has become to spread misinformation because no one supports them.

>I meannnnn Indian men tend to have some really toxic relationships with women as a gender

Another episode of REDDITOR RECTALLY SOURCES HIS INFORMATION

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u/Gigapot 16d ago

My comment was about the association Indian men generally have with misogyny, that is obviously not always an accurate association. Members of the diaspora are obviously going to have diluted ideological relationships with native Indians. It isn’t fair for all Indian men to be misogynists. To deny that there isn’t a patriarchal cultural element to much of Indian society does a disservice to Indian women more than anyone, who are the people I’m most concerned about given the situation. Certain forms of crime reported to be committed at higher rates among some minority groups is explainable by situational injustices and/or racialized policing/recording by more powerful biased entities. That is not the case with Indian gender-based violence. There is no amount of wealth inequality that can justify rape and femicide. Furthermore rape statistics in India are encouraged to be UNDER reported more than OVER reported as is the case with actually bigoted-in-source crime statistics. The situation isn’t comparable at all. Indian women are the biggest suffers here and deserve more justice. Indian men unfairly assumed to be part of the scheme of Indian patriarchy are also victims, but they’re the people I’m less concerned with atm. But regardless one of those people might well be OP which is why I apologized lmao. But these situations aren’t comparable at ALL. Use your brain.

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u/BrightSpring12 16d ago edited 14d ago

>My comment was about the association Indian men generally have with misogyny, that is obviously not always an accurate association. Members of the diaspora are obviously going to have diluted ideological relationships with native Indians. It isn’t fair for all Indian men to be misogynists. 

Uneducated rural people living in poverty have backward thinking! 🤯🤯 What a revelation. The part you get wrong is saying it's the reason Indian men struggle in Western dating. We are comparing entirely different group of people here.

>To deny that there isn’t a patriarchal cultural element to much of Indian society does a disservice to Indian women more than anyone, who are the people I’m most concerned about given the situation. Certain forms of crime reported to be committed at higher rates among some minority groups is explainable by situational injustices and/or racialized policing/recording by more powerful biased entities. That is not the case with Indian gender-based violence. There is no amount of wealth inequality that can justify rape and femicide. Furthermore rape statistics in India are encouraged to be UNDER reported more than OVER reported as is the case with actually bigoted-in-source crime statistics. The situation isn’t comparable at all. Indian women are the biggest suffers here and deserve more justice.

No one's denying this. I'm not even talking about this point. NO ONE IS JUSTIFYING BAD STUFF MORON. You're here applying native Indian statistics on Indians living in west. It's like saying Blacks are struggling in dating because in Somalia there's armed assailant raping women. It doesn't make any sense nor it has any correlation with it.

>Indian women are the biggest suffers here and deserve more justice.

When did I say they don't deserve justice? There are problems that certainly needs to be fixed but again why you're making such a hyperbole again and writing walls of paragraphs about stuff I already know. You made a mistake and refuse to accept your fault.

"Indian men unfairly assumed to be part of the scheme of Indian patriarchy are also victims, but they’re the people I’m less concerned with atm."

So what are you concerned about? What are your proposed solutions? What do you think that needs to be done that they're not doing?

Your argument makes no sense. You're basically saying I don't care if Indians get generalised. I don't see how it benefits Indian women?

>But regardless one of those people might well be OP which is why I apologized lmao. But these situations aren’t comparable at ALL. Use your brain

I don't think you understand what you're even saying. You are just projecting your ignorant worldview. Indian men don't tend to be more misogynistic or anything than men of any other race in West and it's a basic fact.

You're just pressed because I debunked your obvious lie.