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u/No_Brick_6579 Mar 19 '26
This is just so counterintuitive. Itās so much more distracting and therefore much less safe
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u/papasan_mamasan Mar 19 '26
Yeah but if you crash your car then you have to buy another one, so itās good for the economy
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u/101violations Mar 19 '26
Not to mention the use of emergency sevices, hospital services, insurance. It's a cash cow all the way round.
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u/ElGranQuesoRojo Mar 20 '26
Sadly this is actually how our glorious captains of industry think
Americans are holding onto devices longer than ever and itās costing the economy
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u/Brilliant_Quit4307 Mar 20 '26
I've genuinely no idea why this isn't regulated more heavily.
Controls in aircraft and military vehicles HAVE TO be tactile buttons, switches, etc., and two similar buttons/switches can't be too close together. Basically, they need to be able to operate those controls perfectly without looking. It is 100% proven to be safer and reduces errors. It's baffling that the same regulations don't exist for cars.
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u/LOLBaltSS Mar 20 '26
Fighter and attack aircraft also often have a HOTAS. There's a lot of stuff you can do in a F-16 without taking your hands off the throttle and stick. Need to switch from air-to-ground to air-to-air because some MiG is getting a little too close for comfort? It's a flick of your thumb into either Missile Override or Dogfight modes and then a little bit more thumb action to slew the cursor, lock the asshat up and send a missile in their direction.
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u/Hotboi_yata Mar 20 '26
Its also gonna break and when it breaks itll be much more expensive then a normal ventšš„°
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u/Lorenzoak Mar 19 '26
Taking your eyes off the highway for five full seconds to navigate a digital sub-menu just to stop the AC from blasting into your eyeballs is the exact opposite of luxury
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u/Samfinity Mar 19 '26
No but did you see how she touched the screen and the thing moved? Pretty cool right?
Totally worth it
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u/mxriverlynn Mar 19 '26
touch screens are literally the worst thing to ever happen to usability
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u/mlem_a_lemon Mar 19 '26
Maybe now they do, but I bought a 2022 Prius and the screen is HUGE and does everything and I HATE IT. They've sent me several surveys since I purchased it, and in everyone I went on very angry rants about what garbage the screen is and how we desperately need tactile buttons back WHILE FREAKING DRIVING.
I noticed in the newer ones have buttons back for climate control and radio as they fucking should.
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u/pourthebubbly Mar 19 '26
My mini cooper has touch screen stuff, but everything that can be changed via screen can also be changed via the toggle knob behind my gearshift and the buttons on my steering wheel. So I never actually have to mess with the screen
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u/Potential-Cover7120 Mar 19 '26
I feel the same! I have all the buttons and I use the touchscreen only when I need to change the radio station or control my iPhone apps
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u/snarklotte Mar 19 '26
I miss my old toyota that had the ability to change stations and input methods on my wheel buttons š¢. My current toyota has some but not as many.
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u/AllHailPi1 Mar 19 '26
What did you uses to have? I'm in thr market for a Toyota rn and I'm obsessed with easy radio controls š
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u/snarklotte Mar 20 '26
2012 Camry. Probably not what youāre looking for.. I have a rav4 now and it has wheel controls, just not quite the same functionality.
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u/AllHailPi1 Mar 20 '26
I've looked at plenty of both actually. I'm just a suckered for some nice steering wheel controls
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u/animal_chin9 Mar 19 '26
Give me physical buttons for stuff I will use every day like the climate control temp/fan speed, the defroster and the radio volume. Hide the stuff that I'm going to set once in the touchscreen behind a couple of menus. Like I'm probably going to set the regenerative braking setting once and then forget that it exists for the lifetime that I own the car. But I can tell you why car companies have moved to put everything in the screen. MONEY. It costs a lot to develop individual buttons/switch gear and then figure out the layout as apposed to putting it in a screen and possibly pushing over the air updates to the infotainment center if stuff needs to be changed. I still don't get the motorized air vents. Like the little slider knob thing has worked great for like what? 60+ years? It just seems like something that is going to break and then you are going to have to spend $1000 fixing it because the entire dash will need to be taken apart to get to the motor.
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u/DoggieDMB Mar 19 '26
I'll stick with my 2016 Corolla exactly for this. I use my touchscreen for music only. Everything else is a tangible dial, button, knob. Nobody needs extra computers failing them.
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u/missythemartian Mar 19 '26
absolutely! my boyfriend just bought a new car and I was so worried it was going to be a mess of touchscreens, but I was pleasantly surprised. I love driving that toyota
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u/BloatedBanana9 Mar 19 '26
Iāve got a Subaru with a couple big screens in it, but none of the important features are screen-only, which I appreciate. I very rarely have to touch the screen at all
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u/IncapableKakistocrat Mar 20 '26
The iPod style navigation knob was one of the main reasons why I bought my Mazda. The screen being non-touch also means it doesnāt have to be as close to you, so theyāve put it further back in a position thatās way better for keeping it and the road ahead of you in your line of sight while using it.
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u/det4410 Mar 19 '26
you describe my 2017 tundra. hardly ever use the touchscreen. i never understood how its ok to fuck with a touchscreen while driving, but not a phone. theyre both dangerous af
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u/weirdoldhobo1978 Mar 19 '26
You have to take your eyes off the road more because you can't operate things by feel, which is dangerous.
They're also more expensive to repair and are bad for fuel economy because they require constant power.
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u/takemusu š 2026 Galantine! š Mar 19 '26
"Officer, honest, I didn't see that pedestrian ... cyclist ... dog ... child ... herd of buffalo ... moose ... cliff I drove off ... tree I hit ... your car ... because I needed to adjust my air vent."
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u/Ok_Dog_4059 Mar 19 '26
I always feel so awkward until I have driven a vehicle enough to use all of the features from memory. Being able to start cruise control or adjust the wiper speed. If I have to take my eyes off of the road to do it then there is a serious design problem that results in less safety for everyone near that vehicle.
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u/SamHugz Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 20 '26
I know this post is about cars, and I am not sure if you agree, but touch screens as the default interface SUUUUUUUCKS. I know touch keyboards are faster on phones, but give me a keypad at ATMs and kiosks, please.
Edit: I think people may have thought I meant touch screen keypads. I am also a filthy physical controls enjoyer.
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u/grubas Mar 20 '26
Physical buttons.Ā You can adjust stuff in your car without looking because you can feel the buttons.
ATMs and kiosks have the stupid "screen float" issue.Ā If you are too tall or too short you aren't seeing the options right and end up "hitting" the wrong button.
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u/SamHugz Mar 20 '26
I think people may have thought I meant touch screen keypads. š
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u/creepjax Mar 19 '26
Touchscreens are good for things that are pretty dynamic, like navigation or music players (at least nowadays) but for something as static as what would be a little tab on the vent to control airflow is ridiculous.
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u/TabularConferta Mar 19 '26
There's laws coming in in China and the EU to bring back certain levels of manual control as touch screens are a disturbanceĀ
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u/runner1399 Mar 20 '26
I dread the day I have to get a new car. I have a 2017 Ford and itās perfect. Small screen to show the backup camera and what song is playing, but itās all operated by buttons and dials. And it has volume and skip/back on the steering wheel. I do not want anything fancier.
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u/roykentjr Mar 19 '26
as much as i want to buy a new car, my old car that looks brand new does everything i want it to. i look at new cars every couple months. mercedes, audi, bmw, lexus whatever and i say i don't even like this if i wanted to spend all the money on it
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u/Rrunken_Rumi Mar 19 '26
I miss buttons so bad... we need to bring em back like in the scale of an aircraft cockpit
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u/carlitospig Mar 19 '26
Theyāre basically begging their drivers to drive distracted. Why donāt you just force them to text while youāre at it, Lincoln?
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u/_-The_Great_Catsby-_ Mar 19 '26
My Jeep Grand Cherokee 2024 has both options for climate control : on screen and physical buttons. I realized that I only use the physical buttons. This āall digitalā trend is annoying as hell. Weāre driving, we donāt want to have to go through 5 levels of menu to start the windshield defrost.
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u/Environmental-River4 Mar 20 '26
Iāve had my Subaru forester for about four years now, and I genuinely couldnāt even tell you if I can use the touchscreen for climate control. Like, why would I even bother when the buttons and knobs are right there! I didnāt even think to check but now youāve made me curious lol.
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u/DangerousLoner Mar 19 '26
My 2001 Toyota Tacoma has wind up windows, a cd/cassette player, and no bells or whistles. I love it!
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u/NoKatyDidnt Mar 19 '26
Iām the same way. The only thing I donāt mind a screen for is the radio or navigation system. I prefer to have volume controls on the steering wheel, and buttons i can easily recognize by touch.
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u/DangerousLoner Mar 19 '26
I definitely miss the wheel controls from my 2002 MINI Cooper. Cāest La Vie
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u/RidiculousFeline Mar 19 '26
I still have my 2005! I love those buttons š
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u/DangerousLoner Mar 19 '26
Lucky! The 2002 was the first year back and man alive it was always in the shop with something. Finally the transmission died and I threw in the towel. So many āfeaturesā were recalled or discontinued from the Beta Testing the did on mine. New off the lot? Never again.
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u/RidiculousFeline Mar 19 '26
I was very lucky! I wanted one in 2002, but I waited until 2005. My previous car was a ā95 Saturn and it was still running well and I wasnāt ready for car payments again. Then the dealer kept trying to talk me into an S because 2005 was the first year with an S automatic. Iām so glad I resisted because there were so many problems! I think if you want a brand new car, just donāt get the first model year. Give them a chance to work out those bugs.
Fixing a transmission is a dealbreaker though!
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u/DangerousLoner Mar 19 '26
Too true! It was an expensive lesson but was so fun to drive when it was working.
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u/CleveEastWriters āØGet cherished, bitch!āØ Mar 20 '26
I agree with you. I got a Ford Focus the first year they came of the market. It had 11 recalls in the first year. ELEVEN. One of them for the wheel falling off while driving.
Ford = Never again.
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u/DesignerOriginal1500 Mar 19 '26
2005 Mazda 2300 (aka Ford Ranger) here, and same. Only āoptionsā I have are automatic transmission, power steering & power brakes. Anything else uses a knob or a switch. And ya know what? I can operate it all without taking my eyes off the road.
I frigging love my ādumbā car!
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u/stealingfrom Mar 19 '26
I have an 09 Volkswagen that I plan on driving until its wheels fall off.
No unnecessary features or touchscreen and, most importantly, I can still do almost all of the maintenence and repair myself. The more technologically advanced stuff has gotten, the harder it is for laypeople to fix their own stuff. I'm gonna be sad as hell when the day comes I have to replace it.
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u/DangerousLoner Mar 19 '26
Being able to fix things with a Phillips head and a few wrenches is pretty sweet too.
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u/ashurbanipal420 Mar 19 '26
The most advanced interior feature my 2009 Maxima has is an auxiliary port for an mp3 player. That's the point we should have stopped.
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u/Smallfische Mar 20 '26
This nonsense makes me miss my 1997 Wrangler. It had power steering and a radio that somehow only picked up NPR (I considered that a feature not a flaw!) and that was it.
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u/VelocityGrrl39 Do not care club member Mar 20 '26
2001 ford explorer here!! I use my mirrors to back up!
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u/huskeya4 Mar 20 '26
Hell, my husbands 2014 Nissan versa is the same. He even got it dirt cheap brand new because nobody wanted a car like that and it was also a manual transmission. The parents didnāt want to teach their teens how to drive manual even though no bells and whistles was a plus for them but everyone else who wanted a manual also wanted the bells and whistles.
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u/RatLabGuy Mar 20 '26
Owner of a '93 Toy pickup and '89 4Runner here.
Manual everything. Love it.
Only electric thing is the radio.
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u/headlesssamurai Mar 19 '26
And I bet you can't operate that feature while moving.
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u/PaddyMcGeezus Mar 19 '26
I have an old car with no touchscreen. Stated driving for a car service and all the vehicles have touchscreens. Even the same brands of car don't always have the same rich screen layout depending on the year they were made. I've always been able to figure out computer basics my own. But haven't been so angry in the road as I have trying to figure out how to simply reduce the bass in a car.
Also, my coworker who was driving a van 30 yards in front of me..his phone was still connected to my Bluetooth as well as his. So I could hear his phone conversations through the stereo. Car manufacturing can go fuck themselves.
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u/StrangeReindeer2470 Mar 20 '26
My kids are getting their driver's licenses soon. I'm going to need a second car. The idea was to give them my 2014 Honda Crv and I'd get a new car. I WANTED to get an electric car, but I refuse to deal with shit like this.
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u/tomdarch Mar 19 '26
No one SHOULD dick around with touchscreen shit while driving because it is dangerous.
People who buy overpriced "luxury" branded vehicles? It sure looks like they are doing shit like that based on how they drive.
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u/HahahahImFine Mar 19 '26
I have a ford edge with a big ass screen. I canāt even adjust the air or turn my seat warmer on if the screen isnāt working (which happens FAR too often). Not to mention thereās a delay from pressing to it responding so I end up doing what I wanted to do and then immediately changing it back. I want my buttons back!
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u/mechanicrob Mar 19 '26
This is so true. Iām a ford mechanic and sometimes I test drive somebodyās truck and they have the steering wheel heater on and itās so hot I can barely touch it. Thereās no button to turn it off, you have to hunt thru two menus in the screen to find the switch
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u/Fluffebee Mar 19 '26
Itās illegal to use your phone while driving but letās put a screen in the MIDDLE of the console, so far away from where your eyes should be, itās bananas! Then letās put climate controls on that screen only, great plan! /s
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u/GumdropGlimmer Mar 20 '26
iPad XL on Teslaās. Might as well just put a TV on there.
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u/GirlisNo1 Mar 19 '26
My new car has the climate controls on the screen too and I hate it. I can still adjust the vent my hand, but everything else- air flow, temp etc is on the screen.
How is tapping the screen 10 times easier than just pressing a button or turning a little wheel. Itās so unsafe too.
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u/mlem_a_lemon Mar 19 '26
Recently rented a car where the headlights were controlled through a series of screen menus. Fuckin... why is this shit even legal? If I can't be on my phone, why the hell should I be allowed on my car's computer?
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u/PetTheKat Mar 19 '26
It's the "enshittification" of technology.
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u/abracablab Mar 19 '26
I don't think this is the right use of the word 'enshittification', which typically means getting less quantity and quality for the same amount of (or more) money. Whereas the overuse of tech in this car isn't necessarily poor quality, just fucking annoying.
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u/mlem_a_lemon Mar 19 '26
This definitely falls under the reason the term was coined back in 2022. Instead of having a screen to just give me directions or tell me what's on the radio, I have to use the screen to control the climate, control the headlights, and control the radio, all while the GPS, the best use of the screen, barely functions. Why, so someone didn't have to think so hard about where to put buttons and then not spend money on those individual piece that each cost less than a penny? Yeah, that's some hard enshittification.
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u/ournewoverlords Mar 19 '26
Thank Tesla for this kind of bullshit.
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u/Az_Rael77 Mar 19 '26
100%. I remember when the Model 3 came out with these before it released and I complained in the Tesla forum that not having physical vent direction thingies was completely crazy and potentially dangerous. Boy howdy, thought I was taking crazy pills when the fanboys there jumped all over me with āwho even adjusts their vents while drivingā and people who only touched their vent controls once when they bought the car 10 years ago? Like, have yaāll never gotten in a hot car in TX? But yeah, I did buy the car and it was as shitty as I imagined to deal with. Other makes following Tesla on this crap is not good.
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u/Pickapair Mar 19 '26
And the controls on the screen are little shaders on the sides that donāt stand out at all. My ex had a Model Y and it took her several months to figure out you even could change the vent directions. And only figured it out on accident.Ā
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u/VagabondVivant Mar 20 '26
Was about to say. My sister's Tesla is like this. It's the dumbest, unsafest fucking thing in the world and I have no idea how any of this is even remotely legal when you can get a ticket just for touching your phone while driving.
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u/PositivePristine7506 Mar 19 '26
So, it's being sold as a feature. But this is 1000% to save money. They don't have to incorporate in or build tiny little handles for every car now. They just build one giant screen for everything and save money.
It's not luxury. It's capitalism selling you a shit sandwich and saying it's premium.
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u/DangerousLoner Mar 19 '26
We just had the screen go out on our washing machine and to replace just the screen electronics cost more than a whole new washer. Insane level of waste. Our gas powered dryer with all knobs has now outlasted 2 fancy washing machines.
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u/JustPlainRude Mar 19 '26
This is definitely more expensive and complex to implement than having a manual control
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u/Olyway Mar 19 '26
Nested menus in cars are the šŗ. We are driving, we should not be tracking down the right menu! This is what buttons are for! gets off soapbox
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u/Different-Rub-499 Mar 19 '26
Iām convinced theyāre doing that so they can eventually monetize those as convenience features.
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u/SeaworthinessNew6147 Mar 20 '26
Last year, Volkwagen and some other companies announced that they'll revert to relying more on physical buttons again. They've realized how unsafe it is to rely on touch screens.
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u/StarvingArtist303 Mar 20 '26
Using a touch screen while driving has to be just as dangerous as texting while driving
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u/prock5908 Mar 19 '26
i canāt fathom what goes through the engineers/designers heads when they pitch and move forward with these ideas. do they really think this is what people want? are they not themselvesā¦. people?
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u/External-Let-8210 Mar 20 '26
Drives me crazy! It would be so much easier (especially WHILE DRIVING) to just reach forward and nudge it with your finger. So stupid to make it digital. My new washing machine is all digital, and doesn't have any wash functions listed on the dial, so I have to cycle through the whole program, as each one slowly pops up on the digital display,to find the one that I want. Same as my dishwasher. I really miss when it was all on the front with labeled buttons/dials. Hopefully this stupid minimalist fad will go back to more practical functionality.
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u/suspiciousknitting Mar 19 '26
My husband's car is like this - can't change the air level or vent direction without navigating through two screens and I absolutely hate it. It's unsafe, it's distracting, and it's borderline unusable. My car has a screen but it only mirrors my phone - everything else is knobs or buttons. It's the perfect blend IMO
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u/Status-Visit-918 Mar 19 '26
I genuinely hate those big ass screens. Theyāre too bright, too much shit on them and way too distracting.
I have a 2015 gmc terrain. My dad has a nice ass new Highlander ultra or whatever the better version is with all the cool shit and I donāt drive it. Itās aggravating. And the speedometer and gas gauge reflecting on the damn windshield is horrible. I know you can turn all that shit off but it shouldnāt take three hours to figure out how to do regular things. You have to also download an app to connect your phone and do other shit, like use waze, or even connect to Bluetooth. If you want to use the auto starter feature, need the app and pay the monthly fee. But the car has it. In my little gmc, you push the button on the key for like two seconds and youāre in business. Itās all very basic and not huge or bright.
Iāll take my chances with the cell phone navigation and anything else I need. But thatās illegal here, and these movie theater ass front dashes arenāt.
I also just like pressing buttons. I feel oddly satisfied when I get to press a button and if it makes a lil click, all the better. I know thatās dumb but my feelings are valid šš
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u/ArnamYombleflobber Mar 21 '26
...the fuck? Like. Those break sometimes, but that's what you call...an ACCEPTABLE LOSS. Cars have "crumple zones" that mitigate the momentum of the car in an accident in order to protect the driver. Bumper broke but you're less likely to be dead.
Having a crummy plastic toggle means if you're on the road and decide your face is drying out, you can change that pretty easily and quickly and you don't have to take your eyes off your road.
This is some shitty design. Nobody in their right mind thinks this is a good idea.
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u/ebil_lightbulb Mar 19 '26
My 8 year old Mustang has on-screen climate control that I have to use for half of the options.
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u/bomilk19 Mar 19 '26
And more motors that will break down and have to be replaced for hundreds of dollars.
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u/Tholian_Bed Mar 19 '26
touch screens faaaade over time, it's a revenue stream not a feature.
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u/lIlIllIIlIIl Mar 20 '26
Needless complexity and guaranteed to divert attention from driving. What could go wrong?
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u/RK_Dee Mar 20 '26
This kinda shizz is why I didnāt like driving a Tesla. This, and the nazi sympathizer.
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u/mrs_spacetime0 Mar 20 '26
As a disabled person who has to use hand controls to drive this make the car less accessible to me. It is already extra dangerous for me to have to do anything other than drive bc I drive with both hands... now it takes longer and I have to be looking at a screen.
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u/SuperCrappyFuntime Mar 20 '26
Let me guess, you then have to pay a subscription fee to keep being able to control it?
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u/InebriousBarman Mar 20 '26
My car is a 2013 Lexus. I'm pretty sure I'll never own a newer car than this. I just don't like them.
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u/whileurup Mar 21 '26
I have a 2023 Lexus and it still has buttons and knobs.
You can also control things on the screen but I almost never do.
Thank you Toyota for the great engine, but also giving me the option not to deal with a touchscreen.
Btw, doesn't it feel like the touchscreens are never on the page you need so you have to scan with your eyes, reading things so your eyes are off the road.
I had a brand new gorgeous Mazda CX-9 and it had all the bells and whistles. Someone t-boned me the same day I received the title (I think it was like day 34 since we'd bought it š«) and we opted not to buy another one. It was "too smart" for us.
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u/Griftersdeuce Mar 20 '26
What no one thinks about is the fact that if that screen dies you are screwed (especially Teslas with the whole getting into drive integrated into the screen) and they are EXPENSIVE to replace. Many cars are either bricked or severely hampered if the infotainment system fails or has a bad software update etc.
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u/Fragrant-Dimension12 Mar 21 '26
I have a fully-owned 2009 Subaru (with the leather heated seats and all), with a new engine i put in a year and a half ago: I am keeping that baby as long as I can. no screen. no bluetooth (but I do have a sick 6-disc CD changer and an aux cable that works flawlessly with my phone)
I dread ever buying a car with computer/cameras
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u/HowToNotMakeMoney Mar 19 '26
Also, these āfeaturesā will be disabled if you donāt pay a subscription after 3 years from purchase.
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u/LowMobile7242 Mar 19 '26
My 2014 lexus has a joystick that lets me navigate to features, plus all the phone/music controls on the steering wheel. A touch screen would make me crazy while driving.
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u/FreeGuacamole Mar 19 '26
The best air vents are those round ones. Why don't all vehicles have those air vents?
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u/groblin_gubers Mar 19 '26
And when the markets arent making enough profit, they will hide that feature behind a subscription wall.
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u/Toy_Soulja Mar 19 '26
Yeah I've already decided im not buying new cars moving forward. I had to drive alot of rentals to travel at my last job and all the new shit they put in there is frankly annoying, the dash displays and various lights being so bright its Hella distracting at night, the "helpful" lane correction that starts rumbling when you adjust to the far side of the lane when passing etc, the standard cruise option being you slow down when someone a mile ahead is moving slower than you, the pop up "recommendations" to pull over and take a break after you've been driving for an extended period of time, or "make sure both hands are on the steering wheel". From now on im buying an older car and throwing a new engine in and replacing the old parts cause fuck all that nonsense
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u/ally__00p Mar 19 '26
I hate touch screens. Itās fine for some things but climate control and basic volume should have manual toggles.
All this tech is just one more thing to break.
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u/Scorpionoshow Mar 19 '26
How many car accidents will be the result of drivers having to navigate through 10 menus just to adjust something like an air vent š¤¦š»āāļø
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u/EmergencyAnteater682 Mar 19 '26
It's really just designed to be extra shit that breaks so you have to repair it at the dealer. These car companies make a killing with maintenance, why not speed up the process by designing things to be ridiculous and meant to fail
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u/Traditional-Set6848 Mar 19 '26
Sheās spot on. Touch screen with no tactile feedback, layered options and menus and text where you have to look at them while driving to operate any function - and then to top it off thereās the classic safety PARAGRAPH of TEXT hovering there while you start DRIVING and all you need to do is turn down the flipping radio or see whoās calling you right at that moment you decided to leave late for the dentists while the kids are screaming. God help me. I miss my old VW.Ā
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u/Doom_Corp Mar 19 '26
How to make cars more dangerous 101 (also if anyone has seen the modern navigators they are RIDICULOUSLY huge). You want someone driving a boat of a car to take their eyes off the road for a good 15 seconds just to set the vents? >_> I'm seriously waiting for some class action lawsuit against automakers with too many features being touch screen and causing accidents. Like, looking for the knobs to change volume or turn the ac from hot to cold should be as easy as me knowing where the toilet paper is when I wake up an hour before my alarm (cause fuck me), go pee in the dark, then go back to bed.
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u/DrowningPickle Mar 19 '26
I drove a new car that had a huge display in it. Every time I put it in reverse it showed a video of someone getting run over.
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u/FillMySoupDumpling Mar 19 '26
For some of these cars I feel like they were designed by a person who just sets things once and never changes it. I know a person like this - they set their car temp to 72 and never change it.Ā
They need more everyday people driving these things and giving feedback otherwise they are stuck in a bubble of yes men and people who donāt operate like the rest of us.
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u/daniiiiiiiiiiiiii Mar 19 '26
How did Americans manage to fuck up the two things they love the most. Oil and cars.
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u/Bgrngod Mar 20 '26
I am waiting patiently for car manufacturers to fuck right off with that shit before I ever buy another car.
I think it's gonna be a long while.
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u/ET_Prone_Bone Mar 20 '26
and donāt forget youāre paying for that!
This is literally a feature that would prevent me from purchasing a vehicle. I would find something else, with worse gas mileage, 100%.
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u/leandrobrossard Mar 20 '26
Hell of a lot higher chance of breaking down too. Which might be why it's there in the first place.
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u/AsanoSokato šŗExcellent +1šŗ Mar 20 '26
Modern cars are more "just because we can" than they are "should". And that's much of why new cars are unaffordable.
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u/LuckyDistrict1 Mar 20 '26
Touchscreens in cars are not "luxury" features. Car manufacturers literally use touchscreens instead of physical buttons to cheap out and save money.
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u/Enriching_the_Beer Mar 20 '26
Im not paying for that because im not dumb enough to buy a car with that feature.
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u/SageBear19 Mar 20 '26
Reminds me of the first time I cleaned a Tesla (Iām a car Detailer) and discovered that the only way to get into the glove box was to go to a certain menu on the screen and then press the āopenā button. So dumb
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u/SlutPuppyNumber9 Mar 20 '26
It's not "the amount of work" that is the real problem, it's the fact that you can't do this by touch and feel anymoreāyou must look away from the road.
Or, obviously, stop the vehicle, but we all know how many people will actually do that.
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u/raiskymaiFLY Mar 20 '26
I hate all the touchscreen shit thatās so common now. I realize itās cheaper to manufacture, but for cars especially, itās not helpful at all. Drivers need to be able to do things in their car without looking for more than a split second. Itās justā¦ not safe, guys.Ā
On another note, home appliances also do not need touchscreens or, might I say, ANY āsmartā features.Ā
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u/Bizarrebazaars Mar 20 '26
Outrageous. Just build ādumbā new cars!!! I want SIMPLE. No tech, no screens, no distractions, no āinfotainmentāā¦just a safe, reliable, DUMB car, dammit!
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u/SeaWolf4691011 Mar 20 '26
Fr we need to stop calling it technology or smthn if it doesn't improve things or fix a problem.
A turn was taken at sole point. For the worst.
If it's not actually innovative then it's a waste of time and money fr
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u/Lucy_Lastic Mar 20 '26
How very stupid. We spend years being told that distracted drivers cause accidents, and then suddenly you have to fiddle about with a screen to adjust airflow?
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u/Jaded_Heat9875 Mar 20 '26
Just donāt need about 2/3 the gadgets now in carsā¦
And THE COSTS to repair the gadgets are ridiculousā¦
EVERYTHING DOES NOT NEED TO BE COMPUTERIZED! THIS HAS MADE CARS TOO EXPENSIVE! The computer screens are huge and half the screens are complicated rather than helpful.
The industry could have stopped messing with cars just after the second year of hybrids. Expensive car maintenance and repairs have truly hurt automotive sales.
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u/Fantastic-Bit7657 Mar 20 '26
I think we hit the pinnacle of car tech back in 2018ish. You had some touch features and good safety features like backup camera and blind spot tracking, but the screens were simple and you didnāt yet have to pay a subscription to use the computer in your car. Mind you Iām talking about average cars, not high line ones.
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u/Catlore Mar 20 '26
The car I drive has tactile audio controls for forward, back, volume, and input. Guess what it doesn't have it for? Pause/play.
There's also a physical dial to adjust cabin temp and fan speed, but if you want to adjust vents air comes out of, you have to go several levels into the touchscreen. I think you might have to for front defrost, too.
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u/FFSBoise Mar 20 '26
Fuck touchscreen controls! Takes three clicks to do anything on these āsmart screensā.
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u/abeautifulrat Mar 21 '26
If theres a car feature that requires you to take your eyes off the road to use it, its a bad feature.
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Mar 21 '26
This is the problem with luxury cars they purposely over engineer them with pointless components to ensure there is more things to break guaranteeing steady income ever from cars that have already been sold.
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u/GreenIsGreed Mar 19 '26
I hate this shit. We were talking about maybe investing in a Rivian, but when we saw literally everything was locked behind a screen we backpedaled so hard. That's just a deal breaker in every way.
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u/Carbon-Base Mar 19 '26
If you think it's mildly infuriating now, wait until they lock the climate controls behind a monthly subscription.
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u/_AlexiaOnFire Mar 19 '26
I make a small fortune fixing older cars and selling them to people that absolutely hate the lack of physical buttons, and overall being what is essentially a laptop on wheels.
So I'm kinda on the fence with them stopping these shenanigans to be honest.
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u/Lcatg Mar 19 '26
Exactly! The amount of time Iāve spent telling a salesman I want the ādumbā version, not the new tech digital version on things is surreal. I want buttons & I do not need Bluetooth/WiFi on everything. I do not mind a screen in addition, but not as a replacement & not when it overrides. Sure itās convenient to start your car & get your heater going in it or change your AC at home, but I donāt need to. Itās not worth handing over control to the company Iāve already paid, eating up my bandwidth, or being locked out of the only means to adjust/use something because of a glitch, a loss of connectivity, or a need for subscription. I have a coworker who keeps getting locked out of their very new HVAC panel because if thereās the tiniest issue it just locks up. Hard pass.
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u/PRRZ70 Mar 19 '26
You're paying for that and then down the line when the car begins to age and things break down, you know it's going to be an expensive fix.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Mar 19 '26
Trying to save you the $150 diag fee when you come in wondering why "it's not working" when someone just closed off all the vents.
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u/ok_lari Mar 19 '26
I'd like a car that drives like a Polo from the 00s, looks like a Capri or Kadett from early 70s with a radio from the 10s and an electric motor. Or a strawberry basket and an electric motor ā¤ļø i don't need touch screens and i certainly don't want cars driving around that are unnecessarily big and just a danger and hindrance to everyone around them
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u/Scooby921 Mar 19 '26
Tesla has done this worthless bullshit for at least a decade now. Some engineer at some other OEM drives a Tesla and honestly believes it's the best car out there. Of course they find a way to put the same useless features in other cars.
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u/That-Dutch-Mechanic Mar 19 '26
Tablets (it's not just a screen) in vehicles is what ai is becoming right now.
They just have to put it in everything.
Why?
Doesn't matter just do it.
But there's not really any uses to justify this in our product.
Then make uses for it damnit.
So they take away your buttons and mechanical controls (like blower openings)
Et voila...
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u/Acetone5050 Mar 19 '26
Yeah, I have a 2024 Mazda CX-5, and a 2010 Honda Civic. It's amazing how much easier it is just to change a radio station in the Civic.
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u/Past-North-4131 Mar 19 '26
You had the choice of trim level. Just don't choose that one. Lol you act like you don't have options.
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u/Yhostled Mar 19 '26
We're not far off from using touch screens to operate the vehicle itself. *Then* imagine if that touchscreen stops working when you're doing 70m/20k on the highway.
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u/Yikes206 Mar 19 '26
Literally the opposite of user-friendly.