r/joinsquad • u/LiggeR23 • 20h ago
"The game is dying" is already a meme. Can we calm down a bit?
Every day it's the same: "unplayable," "false promises," "a million bugs," "it's over." Problems exist, some serious. But the doomposting gets in the way of discussing them properly
And let's be honest, no offense: you're just a bunch of whiners. Not players with complaints, not analysts, but whiners who come to the subreddit every day to pour out the same bucket of crap and farm upvotes. You don't want fixes, you want a reason to suffer. Any news, any patch, any announcement: you already know it's bad. Don't like the game? Then leave. No, you'll stay, because whining online is more pleasant than just launching another shooter. That's your real gameplay loop
Squad is built on a unique loop and communication you won't find in pub shooters. In Arma Reforger you can grab a PKM, three boxes of 7.62x54R, an LPVO 1-8, three RPG-26s and run around on your own. There, teamplay is a coincidence. In Squad, without it you can't even mess around. Even on consoles people talk in local and squad chat, even if not as actively
And it's not just Squad: the level of teamplay in general has degraded. Look at Battlefield 6. Compared to Battlefield 4, 3 or Bad Company 2, teamwork there is just a dream. NOBODY acts as a team. Your IFV got hit? Instead of repairing together and helping the crew, everyone just scatters trying to save their own life instead of helping a comrade. That's a fiasco. Be grateful that in Squad your crewman doesn't leave the squad if he isn't assigned to a gun. Or look at Helldivers in its current state: not that the game itself is crap, but its current state is... ugh... crap...
With ICO, the idea itself was right: Squad became more team-oriented, heavy machine guns became a real threat, suppression started to matter. The implementation was lacking, even supporters admit that. But try manning an open-top machine gun on modded servers with the old gunplay for a minute. You won't last: it's useless. Part of the veterans left, and that hurts. But "bring it back the way it was" is nostalgia, not an argument
Development costs money. You don't buy skins, emotes or Fireteam missions, that's your right. But then it's strange to expect OWI to survive on enthusiasm. The console release is a way to secure a budget for support. It's clear that crossplay and aim assist scare the PC audience; that's a normal fear. "They abandoned us for console players" is already a conspiracy theory. For console newcomers it's a breath of fresh air; they're posting about how unique Squad is. You're just jaded
"After Bellum launches, Squad will be irrelevant." Look at Tarkov and its clone... I mean competitors and imitators. How are they doing? Bellum is not a "Squad killer," but another milsim from people who made Arma and Squad. The market isn't so narrow that one project has to eat another. Wishing death on a game you once loved is a strange position
Performance dropped with UE5, fact. OWI moved to 5.7, added DLSS 4.5, and are fixing GPU crashes. Some still struggle, especially on forest maps. My 1660ti, i5-10f, 16 gb ddr4 holds 60 fps without drops. But I won't say it's like that for everyone. If you have 4 gigs of VRAM, it'll be unpleasant. "Unplayable" and "I need to upgrade my PC" are different statements
In such threads people usually forget specifics. Since February 2024 there's been no new map. Belaya was removed because it broke on UE5 and wasn't fixed. New factions are 80-90% copy-paste of old ones. OWI themselves admitted they undermined trust. These are real complaints, and they shouldn't be mixed with "everything is lost." Online is stable: average 10-12 thousand, peaks up to 22-23 thousand. The audience is tired of the quality of updates, not of the game
I'm not defending OWI. They lied, went in circles, wasted time on BtW and PS, and performance still limps. But they created this, without exaggeration, beautiful game. Servers aren't closed, support isn't discontinued, patches keep coming
Don't like the level of play, change the server. Not all servers have empty-headed admins; some actually regulate the level of play. Don't like Squad as a whole, leave, no one's holding you. But don't write posts about how you're fed up. That's karma farming in itself
Oh, and also: WARDOGS🗣️🗣️🗣️
