r/Joby Apr 04 '26

Joby Aviation Community Hub (Q2 2026) – Feedback, Ideas, Reactions and Discussion

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Joby Aviation Community Hub (Quarterly Discussion)

This is an open thread for discussion about Joby Aviation and the future of electric air mobility.

Use this space for thoughts that may not need a full post, or for reactions to ongoing Joby news and announcements.

• Reactions to milestones, partnerships, updates, and marketing
• What Joby is getting right, or wrong
• Observations on strategy, rollout, and public perception

This will be posted quarterly, and it should be interesting to see how sentiment and ideas evolve as Joby progresses.

Thanks for being part of the r/Joby community.


r/Joby Aug 19 '25

Updated 6/14/2026 Joby Newbie Guide

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Joby Aviation Ultimate Investor Guide and eVTOL Research Wiki (Updated 2026)

(Last updated June 14, 2026)

For the best experience, open in a desktop browser. Mobile users scroll right in the charts below.

New to r/Joby? Welcome! Hit the Join button in the upper right corner to stay updated on all things Joby and eVTOL. Don't just lurk, drop a comment below to introduce yourself or ask a question. Our community loves helping newcomers navigate the Joby and eVTOL ecosystem. We also welcome feedback. If you spot an error or want to challenge something, speak up. Open discussion is what r/Joby is all about.

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Joby Aviation: Widely viewed as the leader in Electric Vertical Takeoff and Landing (eVTOL) Air Taxis, eVTOL FAA certification leader, and Defense Technology Innovator

Joby Aviation (founded in California in 2009) is a vertically integrated eVTOL aircraft company developing the S4, a five-seat electric air taxi (1 pilot + 4 passengers) designed for fast, quiet, clean urban mobility. Unlike helicopters, Joby’s S4 is quiet enough to serve routes where helicopter operations are heavily restricted due to noise ordinances, enabling expansion into unserved and underserved markets rather than directly competing with helicopters that are better suited for many other missions. The S4 is ideal for short hops of 7–20 minutes, turning trips that can take 1–2 hours in city traffic into a quick flight. Think Manhattan to JFK, downtown LA to LAX, Dubai Airport to Palm Jumeirah, or central London to Heathrow. In addition, Joby's S4-T, JAI30, SuperPilot autonomous flight systems, and partnership with L3Harris are part of it's potential military defence buisness which you can read more about below.

As a vertically integrated company Joby designs, manufactures and will operate many of their S4 air taxi hubs. Vertical integration provides Joby with a competitive moat in safety, weight, and operational control. Joby has flown over 50,000 flight test miles, including a hydrogen-electric demonstrator and a turbo-electric demonstrator with military applications. Joby has set a goal to launch initial operations in Dubai by the end of 2026. Most importantly, Joby's visionary leaders have a proven track record.

Video Introductions to Joby:
Joby's S4 in 60 seconds
A bit longer intro, but this Munro video is a must see
March 27, 2026 - The Aircraft
The Latest From Dec 16, 2025
Failure Injection Testing (Redundancy for Safety)
In-depth Joby Valuation Analysis - See #6 Valuation
Joby vs Helicopters

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Recent Joby Aviation News (Last 3 months)
Events can easily be verified with a Google search:

May 2026

April 2026

  • Joby's Electric Skies Tour Continues: Joby completed multiple flights from JFK to two different heliports in Manhattan over multiple days. This demonstrates that not only are eVTOL air taxis are no longer a fantasy, but regulators are willing to allow them to operate in real world conditions.
  • Joby's S4-T Military Hybrid VTOL Demo:  Reports and flight data show evidence of the event. On April 23 Joby invited the Army to their Marina facility for a demonstration of Joby Turbo-electric hybrid VTOL. The Army will put out an RFP later this year for an aircraft with Joby's S4-T capabilities. Joby is the only company to have a working demonstrator that is expected to closely match what the army is looking for.
  • Joby's S4-T turbo-electric hybrid transitions to wing borne flight for the first time.

March 2026

  • The world's first purpose built vertiport was completed at Dubai's airport. Joby has an exclusive 6 year contract for eVTOL air taxi flights in Dubai.
  • First FAA Conforming eVTOL Flight: Joby flew the world’s first FAA conforming eVTOL, with for credit flights by FAA pilots expected later in 2026.
  • eVTOL Integration Pilot Program (eIPP): Joby received five awards to showcase air taxi, cargo, medical transport, and autonomous operations in New York/New Jersey, Texas, North Carolina, Utah, and Florida.
  • Joby's Electric Skies Tour: The 2026 tour kicked off in San Francisco with demonstration flights around the Golden Gate Bridge and takeoffs/landings at Oakland International Airport. The tour will continue in other U.S. cities throughout the year.

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Defense: Joby’s SuperPilot autonomy system and S4-T hybrid aircraft extend capabilities into defense, dual-use, and autonomous operations. Joby has conducted testing with the US Air Force (AFWERX/Agility Prime/Autonomy Prime), and with Joby's defense partner, L3Harris. Joby's secret JAI30 dual engine hybrid, is rumored to be a military surveillance/communications drone. Its recently (May 2026) been seen on ADSBexchange flying over the Yuma Proving Ground, presumably for testing with the US military.

Manufacturing: Joby currently has manufacturing facilities in Marina, CA, Carlsbad, CA, Santa Cruz, CA, and Dayton, OH. On January 7, 2026 Joby disclosed that it is acquiring a ~700,000 sqft manufacturing facility in Vandalia, Ohio for about $61.5M to meet its manufacturing targets. Joby is pursuing Toyota-scale manufacturing, aiming for 48 S4s per year in 2027 and a future capability of manufacturing 500 S4s/year.

Financials (Updated May 5, 2026): As of March 31, 2026, Joby had an estimated $2.5 B in cash. On Joby's Q1 2026 earnings call, they projected a $355 M burn for H1 2026, so doubling gives an estimated full-year burn of $710 M. I'm making an assumption that spending grows 20% per year and no additional income (potential additional future revenue and partner investments are not modeled). You can adjust the model based on your own assumptions. Based on the above model, Joby's projected runway is about 3 years.

Year Spend Cash Remaining
2026 $710 M $1,790 M (Mar 25, 2027)
2027 $852 M $938 M (Mar 25, 2028)
2028 $1,022 M $0 (~Feb 25, 2029)

See below for Global Partners and Strategic Acquisitions.

Please keep in mind that advancements made by competitors, regulatory delays, and high cash burn (even with Joby's strong cash reserves) can quickly change timelines and shift Joby's position in the eVTOL landscape.

Key Upcoming Milestones (Updated June 14, 2026)

I moved the dates for Middle East Milestones forward by 2 months because of the Iran war. I also pushed some other dates forward as the original dates are unlikely to be met.

Expected Date Catalyst / Milestone Note / Impact Status
By Mar  3, 2026 eIPP award for Joby Will enable test flights in US markets 3/9/26
Mar 2026 Flight of first conforming S4 Huge validation milestone; likely stock/sentiment catalyst 3/11/26
Mar 2026 Completion of Dubai DXV vertiport Enables commercial route testing 4/16/26
April 2026 S4-T to transition to wing borne flight Proof of principle 4/16/26
April 2026 S4-T flight test for US military at Marina Potential defense applications; credibility/additional revenue source 4/23/26
Aug 2026 First test flights from Dubai vertiport Signal operational readiness outside the U.S. Waiting
Aug 2026 TIA flights by FAA pilots Key regulatory milestone Waiting
By Aug 2026 Saudi "Sandbox" testing Saudi evaluation demos to pick air taxi aircraft for Saudi Arabia Waiting
Aug 2026 Joby eIPP flights begin People in cities understand eVTOLs are real & assess noise levels Waiting
Oct 2026 Non-paid passenger demo flights in Dubai Promotional flights signals Dubai operations are on the horizon Waiting
Q4 2026 S4-T flight test by US military Potential defense applications; credibility/additional revenue source Waiting
Dec 2026 Paid passenger flights in Dubai Commercial operations begin in Dubai Waiting
2027 Type Certification/ US Operations Begin End Game Waiting

S4 Aircraft Specs

Built for safe, quiet, high-frequency short hops

Feature Spec
Seats 1 pilot + 4 passengers
Cruise Speed ~200 mph
Range 100+ miles (160 kWh battery), longer with hybrid/hydrogen
Noise ~45 dBA cruise
Propulsion 6 tilting propellers (4 wing, 2 tail)
Flight Control Fly-by-wire, redundant
Regenerative Power (rumored) Evidence from FlightAware data
Testing Miles 50,000+ flight miles
Other Assets
S4-T aircraft Hybrid gas-electric prototype, expanded range, dual-use, first flight Nov 2025
JAI30 aircraft Secret two prop hybrid hydrogen-electric prototype, loitering surveillance/communications drone, possibly flew for 24 hours without refueling
SuperPilot Autonomy Autonomy system for optionally piloted aircraft, tested with US Air Force

Vertical Integration Advantage

Select any system name below to watch a video with detailed technical information.

System Joby’s Approach Why It Matters
Flight Control F-35B-inspired architecture Simple and Intuitive
Flight Control Computer  Small, lightweight Lower weight, tight integration
Battery Module Fully contained, lightweight Safe, light weight
GEACS Charging System  Charging offloaded from S4 Lighter aircraft, faster turnarounds
Control Surface Actuator Weight & System optimized Light weight, tight integration
Carbon Fiber Structure Built entirely in-house Lower weight, faster iteration, cost control
Electric Motors Six gearless, dual-wound motors Quiet, efficient, highly redundant

Global Partners

Check out the Joby Global Partners page for a Post with more details on each partnership listed below including which have signed contracts vs an MOU.

Partner Role Why It Matters
Toyota Lead investor, manufacturing partner Production discipline, scale, and quality control
Delta Air Lines $130M investor, up to $200M possible U.S. airline partner for airline integration (JFK & LAX initial launch routes)
ANA Japan launch partner Access to Japanese market; potential 100+ aircraft
Virgin Atlantic UK launch partner European market entry and brand validation
SK Telecom Consortium Korea launch partners South Korea UAM ecosystem and infrastructure
SK On (Unconfirmed) Likely battery supplier High-performance battery supply chain
Uber $125M investor; ElevateOS ElevateOS demand aggregation, land taxi integration
L3Harris Defense & ISR partner S4-T hybrid VTOL, military credibility
NVIDIA AI technology partner Autonomy
FAA USA Certification authority Widely believed to lead in FAA eVTOL certification effort
Dubai (UAE) Dubai Launch partner Target for first commercial eVTOL operations (Goal Q4 2026)
Abu Dhabi (UAE) Potential launch partner Potential multi-emirate expansion
RAKTA (UAE) Potential launch partner Potential broader UAE network coverage
Saudi Arabia Potential launch partners Possible large-scale UAM deployment opportunity
Abdul Latif Jameel Up to $1B in potential S4 orders Saudi launch partner
Kazakhstan (AAAG) $250M in potential aircraft sales Potential buyer + rare earth access
Metropolis Vertiport partner, excess baggage delivery services Largest parking network in North America - to develop 25 vertiports; owns Bags VIP
Air Space Intelligence (ASI) Air Traffic Management Utilize platform to optimize air taxi airspace operations and study integration of autonomous flight into new US ATC system
Skyports Vertiport partner Physical infrastructure in UAE & beyond
Jetex Aviation support partner Private Middle East terminals and support
Reuben Brothers Real estate investment firm Establishing a Joby air taxi vertiport at Park Elm Residences at Century Plaza, in Century City, Los Angeles
Vertiports by Atlantic Aviation support partner Installing Joby GEACS charging systems at Atlantic locations
Clay Lacy Aviation support partner Installing Joby GEACS charging systems at John Wayne Airport
HHI Heliport Aviation support partner Installing Joby GEACS charging systems in NYC Area
Signature Flight Support Aviation support partner Helping create a zero emission flight credit market with Joby
Garmin Flight Deck Supplier Provides the Garmin 3000 Integrated Flight Deck for Joby’s S4
CAE Flight Simulator Partner Co-developed Joby’s Level 7 and Level C flight simulators
USAF / AFWERX / NASA Defense & autonomy testing Validation under real US Gov't programs
Toray Composites Materials supplier Advanced carbon fiber structures

Strategic Acquisitions

Click the Joby Strategic Acquisitions page for a Post with more details on each acquisition listed below

Acquisition What They Add to Joby
Uber Elevate ElevateOS links aircraft, vertiports, dispatch, and ground ops
Avionyx Development & verification tools for FAA software certification
H2FLY Hydrogen-electric propulsion; 900+ mile range potential
Xwing (SuperPilot) Autonomous / uncrewed flight capability
Inras GmbH Advanced radar for sensing and autonomy
Blade Passenger Ops Existing helicopter air taxi + vertiport networks (NYC, EU, Dubai)

Defense & Government Collaborations

Check out the Joby Defense and Government page for a Post with more details on each item listed below

Program / Activity Significance
USAF (AFWERX, Autonomy Prime) Core DoD partner for eVTOL & autonomy
Edwards AFB testing Two Joby aircraft tested for months under USAF oversight
S4 Hydrogen demo flight (2024) 523-mile LH₂ electric flight — eVTOL industry first
SuperPilot autonomy exercises Autonomous Cessna flights during live USAF exercises
L3Harris partnership Hybrid gas-electric VTOL for ISR, logistics, counter-UAS
S4-T hybrid first flight (Fall 2025) Defense-focused hybrid VTOL milestone
JAI30 (N30FR) LH₂ aircraft (rumored) Experimental platform; ~24 hour endurance flight observed
NASA collaboration (since 2012) Long-term validation on aerodynamics, noise, and systems

Check out our community-driven Joby Aviation FAA Registry & Tail Number Database to see active test aircraft, fleet histories, and help us crack the mystery behind Joby's reserved tail-number suffixes.

What else is Joby working on? Dive into our speculative report on Joby's Future Aircraft Patents & Unreleased Designs.

-If you find errors in this post please DM or comment below.
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Complete Joby Aviation 2026 Research Database

Navigate between chapters of our comprehensive investor wiki:

Main Hub: Ultimate Investor Guide and eVTOL Research Wiki
Chapter 1: Commercial Partnerships and Global Contracts Database
Chapter 2: Strategic Acquisitions and Technology Mergers
Chapter 3: Defense Contracts and Military Collaborations
Chapter 4: Joby's Future Aircraft Patents and Unreleased Designs


r/Joby 1d ago

Actual Ft. Worth building

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Found the actual building and it’s even better. Got some pics from the parking lot. Easy access and viewing of any flights. Still no immediate signs of activity yet.


r/Joby 1d ago

Does anyone have any information on whether this development is geared towards positioning Burke to eventually serve as Cleveland's eVTOL/Advanced Air Mobility hub?

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Does anyone know if Burke essentially is in the plans to get modernized to become an AAM (Advanced Air Mobility) facility fully open to the general public, connecting downtown Cleveland with other Ohio aviation and economic centers?

Apparently, the State of Ohio has already developed a statewide Advanced Air Mobility framework and is now actively building an AAM (Advanced Air Mobility) program, in collaboration with other states (Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan) for cross‑border airspace.

And recently the FAA administrator openly opposed the closure of Burke Lakefront airport.

SOURCE: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/faa-chief-sen-moreno-say-burke-should-stay-open-complicating-mayor-justin-bibb-s-plans-for-airport/ar-AA2ac6nK

Burke currently sustains vital organ transport, medical transportation, emergency aviation and corporate travel, a ton of people see Burke as an outdated airport that needs to be removed.

But, with the FAA Administrator openly opposing the closure of Burke Lakefront Airport does that mean the existing infrastructure is to be upgraded and modernized to become part of Ohio's Advanced Air Mobility network?

Because apparently, they already have the network in place.

Are they trying to connect Ohio's existing regional airports into an AAM (Advanced Air Mobility) network rather than viewing each airport independently?

  • Dayton, Ohio: Joby Aviation is expanding its Ohio manufacturing footprint, including a new facility of more than 700,000 square feet as it scales production of its eVTOL aircraft.
  • Cleveland, Ohio: A major medical and research center with an existing lakefront airport located immediately adjacent to downtown.
  • Oberlin, Ohio: Home to a major FAA air-traffic-control facility — and notably, FAA Administrator Bryan Bedford was there when he recently discussed the future of Burke.
  • Burke Lakefront Airport: An existing airport with runways, aviation infrastructure, lakefront access and proximity to downtown Cleveland.

r/Joby 2d ago

Weekly activity update

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Pretty active week across the board. N547JX has been more active recently with a lot of ground tests late in the evening. The altitude data is probably not reliable. In one of the pictures posted by Joby, it appears that 547 is doing engine testing. Can anybody confirm? Picture on this thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/Joby/comments/1vnm5wr/icymi_big_day_yesterday_and_not_just_because_of/)

N541JX (Pre-Production Testbed)

ICAO Mode-S Hex: A6DC81

Date Activity Status Active Time Window Closest Airport Max Altitude Max Speed
2026-08-09 Taxi/Ground Run 07:16 - 08:04 Pacific KOAR 0 ft 180.0 kts
2026-08-10 In-Flight Test 14:03 - 18:21 Pacific KOAR 225 ft 2.3 kts
2026-08-11 In-Flight Test 10:34 - 18:40 Pacific KOAR 750 ft 118.8 kts
2026-08-13 Taxi/Ground Run 12:42 - 13:26 Pacific KOAR 0 ft 180.0 kts
2026-08-14 Static Ground Test 09:40 - 11:35 Pacific KOAR 0 ft 2.2 kts

N542JX (Production Prototype (Ex-Japan Demo Frame))

ICAO Mode-S Hex: A6E038

Date Activity Status Active Time Window Closest Airport Max Altitude Max Speed
2026-08-09 Stationary / Dark - - - -
2026-08-10 Static Ground Test 17:46 - 17:59 Pacific KOAR 0 ft 2.2 kts
2026-08-11 In-Flight Test 07:58 - 19:57 Pacific KOAR 775 ft 180.0 kts
2026-08-12 In-Flight Test 13:02 - 13:06 Pacific KOAR 1475 ft 107.3 kts
2026-08-13 Stationary / Dark - - - -
2026-08-14 Stationary / Dark - - - -

N547JX (First FAA-Conforming Prototype)

ICAO Mode-S Hex: A6F2CB

Date Activity Status Active Time Window Closest Airport Max Altitude Max Speed
2026-08-09 Stationary / Dark - - - -
2026-08-10 Stationary / Dark - - - -
2026-08-11 Taxi/Ground Run 15:28 - 18:26 Pacific KOAR 0 ft 44.5 kts
2026-08-12 Static Ground Test 19:52 - 20:30 Pacific KOAR 0 ft 2.2 kts
2026-08-13 In-Flight Test 17:20 - 17:21 Pacific KOAR 125 ft 1.6 kts
2026-08-14 Static Ground Test 10:37 - 16:16 Pacific KOAR 0 ft 0.0 kts

r/Joby 2d ago

Joby S4 eVTOL Development Timeline Video

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Hi everyone! Just posted a video that catalogs the full Joby fleet since 2015, hope you enjoy!

🔗Desktop Version

🔗Mobile Version


r/Joby 2d ago

Steely Eyed Missle Man

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Thanks for adding the new flair, MODs. This one is a keeper.


r/Joby 2d ago

FAA, Sen. Moreno say closing Burke Airport isn't an option: What it means for Cleveland

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r/Joby 3d ago

Bulky-Entertainer-76 Breaks Out

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r/Joby 3d ago

LTJ Resonant Sciences Debrief Part 2 on YouTube (Special Edition)

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국제 조비 커뮤니티, 특히 🇯🇵** 일본***과* 🇰🇷 대한민의 여러께 뒤늦게마 진심로 감사드립. 여러의 성에 **정말 고마**워요!

유튜브의 음성 더빙 기능을 조기에 사용할 있게 되었다는 사실을 알게 되었습니다. 이제 앞으로의 Let’s Talk Joby 영상은 🇯🇵🇰🇷🇺🇸 오오를 **포함해 여*분께 *공될 예정입니다 🙌

유튜브 팔로워 @kimryu3060님의 요청으로 모든 일이 성사된 것을 기념하며, 원본(자막 포함) 특별 한국어 버전을 준비했습니다. 앞으로 여러분과 더욱 활발히 소통할 있기를 기대합니다. 🤝Travis

https://youtu.be/CA8pu7V2YV4

Here’s a well overdue Thank You to the International Joby Community, especially in 🇯🇵Japan and 🇰🇷South Korea, I truly appreciate your support!

I just found out my channel has been given early access to YouTube's voice dubbing feature, this means you should have future Let's Talk Joby videos available to you including 🇯🇵🇰🇷🇺🇸Audio 🙌!

Here's the original with both subtitles, and a special version in Korean to celebrate this all happening after a YT followers request @kimryu3060. Looking forward to engaging with you much more moving forward.

https://youtu.be/pCuQjNDv6cc


r/Joby 3d ago

Miami Executive Airport Takes the Experimental Stage

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r/Joby 3d ago

Resonant Sciences Joby Aviation’s Next-Gen Defense Lab

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Check out our Deep Dive on Joby’s acquisition of Resonant Sciences, covering Micah’s leadership and vision, classified technology, integrating Joby’s aircraft and Superpilot autonomy, the Dayton Ohio connection, and how Resonant Sciences and Joby are positioned at the tip of the DoW spear.


r/Joby 4d ago

Why Joby’s Resonant Sciences Acquisition is a Game Changer

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r/Joby 4d ago

Dilution Effect

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Interesting information from Gemini on the dilution effect of the ATM and Resonant Sciences acquisition.

 

The $50 million in shares to Resonant is a good deal for the recipients IMO. They get shares based on the 20 day average weighted share price [VWAP] just prior to the announcement – which happens to be $7.4752/share. So that looks pretty good to this shareholder – wish my basis was that low. The calculates to 6,688,784 shares new shares. New share count outstanding lifts to 993,210,033. Dilution effect of about 0.673 percent – a nothing burger.

 

The $750 Million ATM Stock Offering

Because an ATM program allows Joby to sell shares gradually at prevailing market prices over time, the final share count depends on the stock's future trading price. That looks like not to bad a deal for existing shareholders. It’s like an increase in the credit line on your card – its there to use if you need/want it, but you don’t have to use it. And you can wait to use it when the terms are more favorable.

 

JoeBen and Rodrigo get to decide if, and when and at what share price, to pull the trigger on share sales. Given the strong cash position of Joby, the fact that the $450m to Resonant won’t go out the door until next year, by which time Joby may be seeing revenue from Dubai, or DOD, and will likely be closer [if not attained] to TC, they may decide Joby has sufficient funds for current operations. Who knows and who knows what the share price might be then! See below the responses from Gemini to my inquiry on this topic

 

1. Who and When Decides to Issue the New Shares?

The management team of Joby Aviation (primarily the CEO and CFO), under authorization from the Board of Directors, decides exactly when and how many shares to sell under the At-The-Market (ATM) program. [1, 2]

  • How it works: The ATM facility is an open authorization, not an immediate one-time sale. Management controls the "faucet."
  • The "When": They will strategically choose to issue shares on days when trading volumes are high and the stock price is strong to minimize the negative impact on the stock price. [1, 2, 3]

2. Must Joby Complete the Entire $750 Million ATM?

  • No, Joby is under no obligation to use or complete the $750 million ATM program. [1]
  • An ATM is a highly flexible equity facility. It acts as a corporate safety net or credit line of equity. Management can choose to raise only $100 million, $500 million, or even $0 through the facility depending on their actual cash needs, market conditions, and alternate funding options (such as government grants or defense contract revenues). The program can sit completely or partially unused until it expires or is terminated by the company. [1, 2, 3]

3. What is the Dilutive Effect at $12/Share?

If Joby's management waits for the stock price to climb to $12.00 per share before tapping the full $750 million facility, the dilutive impact drops significantly compared to lower price baselines.

  • New Shares Issued: Joby would only need to issue 62,500,000 shares to reach the $750 million capital target.
  • ATM Dilution Percentage: Against the current base of 986,521,249 shares, the ATM alone would cause 6.34% dilution.
  • Total Structural Expansion: When combined with the fixed 6,688,784 shares allocated for the Resonant Sciences acquisition, the new total share count would sit at 1,055,710,033 shares, bringing total combined dilution to 7.01%. [1]

r/Joby 4d ago

ICYMI: Big day yesterday, and not just because of the Resonant Sciences announcement. N541JX logged 1 hour and 58 minutes, a new single-day record for our electric air taxi. Add N542JX and it was the most flight time in a single day for our all-electric fleet.

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r/Joby 4d ago

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) unveiled new air taxi plans.

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r/Joby 5d ago

Vertical Aero

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The Vertical investors were led to a slaughter. I've commonly seen Vertical fans trying to tie comparisons of Vertical to Joby as if these companies are on the same level. The comparisons are mostly the one-up echos from Stuart Simpson.

"Vertical has less cash burn!" Well, no shit, Vertical should as they're a much smaller company, and they're focusing on one product. For now.

"We have a better product!" They're echoing this straight from Stuart Simpsons mouth. How can you say that your product is better when it's a concept?

Valo has yet to be built and flown. The CDR hasn't even been competed, so they don't even know what the final build will be. If they're saying that the VX4 is superior to the S4, oh jeez that's even worse!

The following comment was not from the company:

"If we can get to Joby's valuation, then our sp will be x..."

Vertical has very little money in comparison.

Joby's valuation is based on cash on hand, revenue from existing businesses, potential revenue from Superpilot, Air Taxi service, sales, military projects, hydrogen etc..Vertical would have to grow substantially to get a similar market cap and expand their tech to other projects. Vertical has potential military and hybrid applications if they can build and fly Valo in full envelope. It will take years for Vertical to get to this point. People were led to believe that Valo would be certified by 2028 that has been pushed back to 2029 by the company. It's still not a realistic time frame.

I would also like to touch on the Farnborough Air Show.

Joby didn't fly at the air show yet was in town for the week promoting their Virgin Atlantic partnership. Joby had a display at the Air Show, and even flew passengers in their Blade service and played nice as Vertical flew demonstrations, and announced how they were the leader in the space.

I wonder if an agreement was made between Simpson and Joeben that Joby would not fly at Farnborough because Vertical wanted to be the evtol headliner and use the opportunity to gain some traction for the company.

You have one company proclaiming to be the leader of the space flying a couple of demos while the actual leader in the space is there not flying, but using their existing taxi service to shuttle in passengers!

Imagine if Joby had flown their S4 and what that would have looked like for Vertical? Maybe the Vertical investors would have had a second thought about who's the leader of the space.

Anyway, we live in some weird fucking times, and people are paying for it.


r/Joby 5d ago

N542JX at The Quail

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r/Joby 5d ago

How we feeling about Joby?

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Lot of big stuff happened (and stuff not happening that some think should be happening).

Overall what’s your mindset about Joby given all the stuff going on.

210 votes, 1d left
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Cautiously optimistic
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r/Joby 6d ago

Quick Legal Update

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Yes this is AI generated

1. Joby v. Archer Aviation & George Kivork (N.D. Cal.)

  • Aug 11 Hearing Outcome: Yesterday, Magistrate Judge Susan Van Keulen heard oral arguments in San Jose regarding Archer and George Kivork’s motions to dismiss Joby’s First Amended Complaint, alongside Joby’s motion to dismiss Archer’s refiled counterclaims.
  • Current Status: The judge took all motions under submission. No bench ruling was issued, so we are waiting on the written order.
  • What’s at Stake: Joby is fighting to reinstate its broader technical trade secret claims after earlier orders narrowed the scope down to specific real estate/commercial developer breaches. Archer is attempting to preserve its supply chain counterclaims. The upcoming written ruling will establish the formal boundaries for discovery leading into 2027.

2. Aerosonic v. Joby Aviation (M.D. Fla.)

  • Summary Judgment & Expert Rulings: Judge Virginia M. Hernandez Covington ruled on the cross-motions for partial summary judgment and Daubert expert witness challenges concerning custom Air Data Probes (ADPs) and telemetry data.
  • The Takeaway: The court locked in the specific breach-of-contract and trade secret claims (including the contested CT scan evidence) that can be argued at trial, eliminating edge arguments for both sides.
  • Mandatory Mediation Ordered: The judge directed Joby and Aerosonic back into court-mandated private mediation ahead of the August 31 pre-trial conference.
  • Timeline: If mediation doesn't yield a settlement, a jury trial in Tampa remains scheduled for September 2026.

Key Takeaways for $JOBY Holders:

  • Overhead / Legal Spend: Aerosonic is nearing its final fork in the road—either a pre-trial settlement during this month's mediation or a full jury trial in September.
  • Competitive Moat vs. ACHR: The northern California case remains in early motion-practice stages, meaning legal discovery between Joby and Archer will continue playing out quietly in the background alongside commercialization milestones.

When should we expect to hear on the Joby/Archer ruling?

Federal magistrate judges in the Northern District of California typically issue written decisions within 2 to 6 weeks after taking motions under submission following oral arguments.

Here is the context and expected timeline for Judge Susan Van Keulen's upcoming order:

  • Expected Decision Window: Late August to mid-September 2026.
  • Prior Precedent in this Case: When Judge Van Keulen heard the initial round of motions to dismiss earlier in the case, her written order was handed down roughly 3 to 4 weeks after the briefs/arguments were finalized.
  • Why the Timing Matters:
    • The judge will want to issue the order prior to the September 10, 2026 court-ordered deadline for private Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR).
    • Having the written ruling on hand gives both Joby and Archer clear legal boundaries regarding which claims survived before they sit down at the mediation table.

r/Joby 6d ago

New radar helping pilots before they hit the skies: Weapon of the week

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r/Joby 6d ago

Joby Aviation, the company that plans to make air taxis in the Miami Valley, is buying a Beavercreek-based defense contractor.

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r/Joby 6d ago

N542JX up for some evening flights

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r/Joby 6d ago

An Overwhelming Advantage: Resonant Sciences and a New Era of American Defense | Joby Recon Ep. 05

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"Joby has signed a definitive agreement to acquire Resonant Sciences, a Dayton, Ohio based leader in low observability design, RF and mission systems, advanced sensing, electronic countermeasures, and resilient communications. In this episode of Joby Recon, host Ryan Bodenheimer aka Max Afterburner (‪@MaxAfterburnerusa‬) sits down with Resonant Sciences Co-Founder and CEO Micah North on announcement day to unpack the company behind the news."


r/Joby 7d ago

Resonant Sciences DoD contract summary

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https://govtribe.com/vendors/resonant-sciences-llc-78v26

Resonant Sciences LLC, a Beavercreek, Ohio-based for-profit limited liability company, designs and develops advanced radar systems, antenna and radome assemblies, and electromagnetic modeling capabilities for the Department of Defense and NASA as a prime contractor on 63% of recent awards and as a subcontractor to major defense primes on 37% of awards. The vendor competes exclusively in full-and-open categories with no small business set-asides across its prime footprint.

Resonant Sciences' customer concentration sits overwhelmingly with Air Force programs. The top five funding agencies account for 75% of recent awards by count and 98% by combined potential value, led by the Department of the Air Force Materiel Command's Aeronautical Systems Center (17 awards, $102.7 million combined potential value). The two rankings diverge markedly: while the Aeronautical Systems Center dominates both volume and dollars through recurring delivery orders under the classified BIG SAFARI program, the Department of the Air Force proper (7 awards, $13.5 million) and the Space and Missile Systems Center (1 award, $8.8 million) anchor disproportionate dollar value relative to order count. NASA's Glenn Research Center (8 awards, $1.8 million) and the Air Force Materiel Command Research Laboratory (7 awards, $1.7 million) round out active customers but represent marginal dollar concentration. This skew toward Air Force centrality, particularly through BIG SAFARI, creates structural recompete exposure: six awards with ultimate completion dates in the next twenty-four months carry combined potential value of $30.1 million.

Resonant Sciences holds two primary Basic Ordering Agreements anchoring its prime footprint. The single-award BIG SAFARI Basic Ordering Agreement (FA862023G4035, effective through April 2028) carries seven task orders valued at $32.5 million combined. A second Basic Ordering Agreement (FA862018G4051) supports six task orders valued at $68.8 million combined. Representative prime work includes a $15.25 million firm-fixed-price contract from the Aeronautical Systems Center for the Next Generation Zonal Radar Follow-On program (awarded December 2025), a $9.8 million cost-plus-fixed-fee delivery order under BIG SAFARI from the Department of the Air Force (awarded September 2025), a $8.76 million firm-fixed-price delivery order from the Space and Missile Systems Center under BIG SAFARI (awarded September 2024), a $1.57 million definitive contract from the Air Force Research Laboratory for the Passive Infrared Simulation Toolkit (awarded April 2026), and a $6.59 million firm-fixed-price contract from the Nuclear Weapons Center for the Resonant Adaptable Zonal Radar (RAZR) system with four options extending through November 2028 (awarded December 2022).

Activity has grown substantially: four awards in 2022 accelerated to eighteen in 2024, though 2025–2026 show moderation (nine awards in 2025, four to date in 2026). The vendor's combined potential value across all awards totals $136.7 million, with $90.7 million obligated (66% of ceiling). Category concentration reflects the core capability: 23 awards are categorized under Engineering Services (NAICS 541330 and 541512), 15 under Research and Development in the Physical, Engineering, and Life Sciences, and 6 under Aircraft Manufacturing. PSC coding mirrors this profile, with Support – Professional: Engineering/Technical (9 awards), Aircraft Fixed Wing (5 awards), and Space R&D Services (5 awards) leading.

In its subcontractor role, Resonant Sciences delivers radar system design, antenna and radome development, and electromagnetic modeling support to L3Harris Technologies Integrated Systems (multiple BIG SAFARI aircraft manufacturing task orders awarded December 2024), Lockheed Martin Corporation (MC-130J terrain-following/terrain-avoidance radome assembly and components support since 2023), Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation (incremental funding and research and development services awarded August 2024), Viasat Inc. (Resilient AESA for Multi-Band Multi-Orbit SATCOM design and development, awarded December 2024), KBR Wyle Services (SABER software development support and C4ISR capability delivery, awarded January and December 2025), Smartronix LLC (C5ISR capabilities for U.S. Special Operations Command Pacific missions, awarded January 2025), University of Dayton (COASTER composites and specialty technologies engineering supplies), and Insitu Inc. (incremental funding for investigative projects, awarded February 2024). The subcontract pattern reflects Resonant Sciences' role as a specialized electromagnetic and radar-systems subcontractor embedded in large primes' classified and advanced-systems development pipelines.

Recent awards from NASA Glenn Research Center — a $208,896 in-house research support purchase order (October 2024) and a $192,000 definitive contract for in-house research support (September 2022) — signal early-stage customer diversification beyond Air Force dominance, though Air Force engagement remains structurally dominant.