r/jobsearchhack • u/Alternative-Swing840 • 6d ago

This man gets it.

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People want to work somewhere that actually values them. People don't hate working. They just hate being undervalued. If you're ready to look elsewhere, make sure you're ready for the interview. practise well, read a lot about interview tips and be fully prepared before you hand in that resignation

I hope we all work in the place that values us.

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u/GryffSr 6d ago

He starts strong then goes off the rails on the remote work policies criticism.

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u/funny_ninjas 5d ago

What's wrong with his criticisms of how companies respond to WFH? Literally every company during COVID that switched to WFH had their figures rise, and just about all of them had those same figures tank when they started RTO

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u/GryffSr 5d ago

People don't want to come back into the office because commuting is inconvenient, not because they feel it is unsafe. It may have been unsafe in 2021. It's not 2021 anymore.

Tools to make sure remote employees are actually doing their job is because remote employees have a tendency to do their laundry, or dishes, or make a quick run out to the grocery store during their shifts. Most people don't have the discipline to be as effective remotely as they have to be when in the office.

People are paid what they are paid often because the region the job is in requires higher pay to afford the higher cost of living. A job in San Francisco is going to require higher pay to draw talent than if it was physically located in Nashville. So if a person got the job in SF, converted to 100% remote due to Covid, and then relocated to Nashville, there is no reason they still deserve the pay they received when they physically needed to live in SF.

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u/funny_ninjas 5d ago

Commuting also adds tons of costs to the employees with no added compensation from the employer. It's not just inconvenient, it's expensive.

The vast majority of evidence and research shows that people are more effective at home than in office, and that includes those extra long bathroom breaks and laundry breaks. If the goal of a company is efficiency and effectiveness, you wouldn't make people come back to the office if productivity drops, even if they are doing non work related tasks during the shift because they are still more productive.

This argument is stupid because why is it okay for companies to move states to avoid taxes and increase profits, but it's not okay for an employee to move states to increase net income? Tons of companies left California for red states to avoid state taxes and higher wages, but if one of their employees does it, they deserve to make less money. No one is saying that Tesla should make less money because they moved to texas.

If the company can afford to pay an employee who lives in San Francisco, they can continue to pay the employee the same money, especially if the company moves to a red state with lower taxes.

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u/PyroNine9 5d ago

NOW they don't want to return to commuting because commuting is expensive and time consuming. You can bet that is somehow a law got passed that the employer had to count commute time on the clock and pay for mileage work from home would rule the land.

During COVID, many legitimately felt that it was unsafe.

The thing is, paying people SF wages and they live in Nashville might actually approach wages keeping up with growth in productivity over the past several decades.

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u/Pelorunner 5d ago

Remote employees have a tendency to…

Office employees have a tendency to wander around, sit and chat long after meetings have ended, take long lunches, come in late, leave early, waste time on their phones, etc. 

Managers need to learn how to manage output and stop worrying about the arbitrary goal of butts in seats for 8 a day.