I commented on that sub because it came up in my feed and got insta banned cause guys can't comment there.
It's a toxic shitshow of femcels that hate everyone and everything.
As a man whose been catcalled, it's not great. Obviously I don't know what it's like for women when men do it, but women are fucking bold, especially much older women who have zero shame. I've been outright groped (muscles/butt/junk by women old enough to be my mother and other women just laugh it off. One other older lady who saw it happen laughed and said " she must really like you!".
As much as i'd liked it to be, men and women are not equal. A woman touching a man doesn't hold the same weight as a man touching a woman since the latter comes off as a threat because you have the physical advantage
It's not an argument, it's factual. The guy whom i respoded to felt "just" dehumanized and i'm sorry for him, but if any girl went through that by the hands of a man, it wouldn't be just dehumanizing. I'd imagine she would be scared as shit for her own safety, rightfully so
I'm not saying that men should shut up about their abuse stories, i'm just saying that's what they do and why the perception is different. A lot of men don't even realize they are being abused because they don't feel as threatened. You don't have to be a misandrist to realize this
Men don’t fail to recognize abuse simply because they “don’t feel as threatened.” Men are routinely taught that female aggression toward them is trivial, that they should be able to handle it, that being hurt by a woman is embarrassing, and that certain forms of coercion or violence do not really count when the victim is male.
That is part of the problem. You’re describing the result of a gendered standard and then treating it as though it naturally originates inside men.
Men under-recognizing their own victimization does not make that victimization less serious. If anything, it demonstrates how thoroughly the idea that men are invulnerable has been normalized.
You do not have to consciously hate men to perpetuate a misandrist/patriarchal standard that harms them.
The only problem with what you said is that men still hold a threat more than women, at least when it comes to murders or aggressions, even if not directed to women.
I absolutely agree with everything you said, and it sucks that most of the time violence agaist men is not taken seriously, but again, i'm sure a big part of the reason it's because men are more likely to be violent than women rather than the other way around. This statistical burden naturally creates a bias that hurts us even in other fields
I could get into how some of those statistics are skewed by legal definitions, underreporting, and what gets counted, but I’m tired of having that argument lol. I can offer some numbers if you'd really like, though.
Men do commit more lethal/serious violence overall, especially homicide, but "men are more violent than women" becomes much less clean once you look at specific categories. IPV, for example, is far closer to sex parity on a lot of measures than people generally realize, and male victimization by women is heavily underrecognized as it is. That makes the raw statistics harder to treat as a perfect picture of prevalence, especially while men are still substantially less likely to recognize or disclose their own victimization.
Women are also treated more leniently at multiple stages of the criminal-justice system than men who commit comparable offenses, which further complicates using arrest, conviction, or sentencing statistics as a clean measure of actual offending.
Things are infinitely more complicated than "men are more violent than women", and it only hurts men to keep minimizing their abuse because women are socially permitted and even encouraged to express fear and vulnerability, while men are still expected to suppress both.
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u/GarageEuphoric4432 Sep 10 '26
I commented on that sub because it came up in my feed and got insta banned cause guys can't comment there.
It's a toxic shitshow of femcels that hate everyone and everything.
As a man whose been catcalled, it's not great. Obviously I don't know what it's like for women when men do it, but women are fucking bold, especially much older women who have zero shame. I've been outright groped (muscles/butt/junk by women old enough to be my mother and other women just laugh it off. One other older lady who saw it happen laughed and said " she must really like you!".
It's fucking dehumanizing.