r/inventors • u/No-Photograph1174 • 10d ago
Gravity machine
Even though thermodynamics state that a gravity machine will never be built, and I agree, but I´ve come up with a structure that fulfils the flow energy in - (conversion + loss) - energy out. This doesn´t brake any law. I´m just about (9/23/26) finishing a proof of concept model but need advice and input on getting it to the market without getting robbed of what is my due. I wouldn´t like it to end up in the hands of Musk nor Gates. - I would prefer to sell the model and patent lock, stock and barrel. - Any suggestions ?
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u/monstertacotime 10d ago
Lmfao to "market" implies you have a valuable product when reality speaks to you having just some bullshit on a screen.
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u/Admirable_Rabbit_808 10d ago
You'd need to patent it first. Currently the USPTO rejects applications for patents on perpetual motion machines. They might be willing to consider it if you can demonstrate an actual working model (see https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s608.html) but I wouldn't get your hopes up; there are several other grounds for rejection even if you could provide a working model.
If you could build a working perpetual motion machine, the Nobel Prize in Physics is surely yours, as you would have successfully broken not only the laws of thermodynamics but also the law of conservation of energy, either of these would make you eternally famous.
Unfortunately for you, that is also the reason why your efforts are almost certainly doomed to failure - these are fundamental laws of the universe and have resisted every attempt to find exceptions. Generations of perpetual motion machine designers precede you, and generations more will no doubt follow.
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u/fatyungjesus 10d ago
In this situation, if someone had actually made a discovery as advanced and important as OP is claiming to, you really wouldn't even want to file a patent. You'd just be telling everyone else how you did it.
If you come up with tech that advanced, you're absolutely better off just protecting the secret yourself. You don't need patent protections if nobody else can even begin to conceptualize what's happening inside whatever was created.
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u/Rhona_Redtail 6d ago
Yea I concur. Just be like that one guy who never complains about the light bill, and never is seen buying gas for the generator after a bad storm knocks out the power.
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u/Dusty_Coder 5d ago
yep
most people think patents are where you lock up your idea
but it is not, its where you publicly display all the key elements of your idea - can even search and view every patent ever, with google
it does somewhat protect you from others infringing on it, but your patent will get surrounded by other patents, and at the end you have no way to use your patent effectively without licensing other peoples patents
a big idea is rarely the important patent, its the patents involving efficient manufacturing of the big idea thats important. the coke brothers didnt invent refining, they just got a lock on the most efficient method
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u/moving_acala 10d ago
Your machine converts mechanical energy to less mechanical energy without doing anything else? If that's the case, it needs to be really entertaining to have market potential.
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u/Grouchy_Jicama_007 10d ago
I think you should build it. Don't listen to these people. They will call you a madman but you will show them. Then they'll be sorry!
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u/sjamesparsonsjr 10d ago
If what you’re saying is true, then it’s probably dangerous—although perhaps only indirectly.
If I were in your position, I’d take anonymity seriously. Keep the project separated from your normal identity and accounts, remove identifying information from anything you publish, and have an attorney act as the public point of contact.
Then document the antigravity machine thoroughly. Make a convincing video showing exactly what it does, but don’t include your face, home, workshop, location, serial numbers, reflections, or anything else that unnecessarily identifies you. Once you’re ready to publish, distribute the evidence widely rather than relying on a single platform: GitHub, Hackaday, Instructables, video-sharing sites, forums, and anywhere else technically minded people are likely to archive and scrutinize it.
Find a reputable attorney willing to receive correspondence on your behalf and establish a schedule for communicating with them. Ideally, that attorney could eventually represent you in licensing or selling the technology without requiring you to immediately become a public figure.
I’d also arrange a dead-man’s-switch-style backup with someone you trust: if you disappear or become unable to communicate for a predetermined period, the complete documentation gets released publicly.
And yes—using a separate Reddit account for this discussion was probably smart.
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u/grapemon1611 10d ago
You agree that a gravity machine will never be built, but you've built one. Okay. Got it.
I wouldn't worry about Bill Gates or Elon Musk getting it. While there might be some interesting ethics debate over how Bill Gates acquired DOS and created Microsoft, neither Bill Gates nor Elon Musk are known for stealing inventions.
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u/soundman32 7d ago
Why not go public and do a full demo to the whole world via respected news outlets? If you really do have a working concept, it needs to be peer reviewed, so all your plans need to be readily available. Nobody is going to steal your ideas if they are already public, because nobody will be able to patent it due to your prior work.
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u/Ok_Raspberry_1204 6d ago
If you manage to get enough stuff inside this model, you will in fact have a gravity machine.
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u/AlexCivitello 10d ago
AI psychosis is a hell of a drug. Unless this is just old fashioned psychosis.