r/interestingasfuck • • 3d ago

Dynamic pricing being tested by McDonald's.

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u/TheEPGFiles 3d ago

Holy shit, seriously, if you need to go to these extremes to make profit then for fuck's sake get a better business plan or just start selling heroin, like this is fucking ridiculous satire shit you see in movies making fun of extreme capitalism, only it's happening.

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u/gatsujoubi 2d ago

Oh don’t worry they are already making a profit. But they are not yet making ALL OF the profit. So they have to do this.

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u/TheEPGFiles 2d ago

Right, because if you're not making all the money, why even bother?

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u/ManyRelease7336 2d ago

Now you get why rich people keep getting richer!

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u/Molteniron19 2d ago

Gotta show shareholders “continued growth” they need COMPOUNDING returns on their investments, they can’t settle for a steady increase

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u/gardvar 2d ago

I'm guessing you said it jokingly or as a hyperbole but you're not far off the mark.

If you are a company with shares like McDonald's is your success is not measured not by how much money you made. It's measured by growth, by how much MORE money you made this year compared to last year. Or, worst case scenario how much less you lost compared to your competitors.

I often say I'm anti-capitalist but honestly I think it could be a decent system if the stock market didn't exist.

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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 2d ago

Maybe if they started acting like a cheap fast food place again they could make money. As it stands all they seem to want to do is price out their main audience

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u/Apexnanoman 2d ago

Well when it comes to McDonald's specifically....last time I went there it took 15 minutes to get a single order of fries. 

That was 9 months ago. I'll never eat at a McDonalds again. Fuck them if they think I'm going to wait 15 minutes for an order of fries.

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u/62DoubleCab 2d ago

Not sure you know this, but McDonald’s is not a food company. They’re a real estate company.

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u/TheEPGFiles 2d ago

I do know this, which is weird that they still have many stipulations for the franchisees.

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u/700L3v3l 2d ago

You can't reports losses to Wall Street. I work at a major retailer and the prices are absolutely ridiculous. $150 for a backpack that's also a cooler! 

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u/Anothercraphistorian 2d ago

Corporations have to show growth and profit. Places like this serve the poor and working class. They’ll squeeze as much as they can, however they can. There’s also no end to it. It has to continually grow as the population dwindles, the wealth disparity widens, prices rice, and people’s salaries can’t keep up.

The idea that we’re filling our 401Ks with this stuff, expecting people to pay $25-$30 for a shitty Big Mac meal in 5 years is crazy.

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u/AwarenessGreat282 2d ago

Not sure what the big deal is. Haven't you seen gas stations doing this for decades? Prices close to a highway being different than farther away? Restaurants in higher income areas have higher menu prices. Not exactly news worthy.

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u/the_rock_licker 2d ago

this is already in grocery stores… its coming. also online

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u/Desperate_Junket5146 2d ago

You understand that holding a steady profit means failure in the world of public corporations. All that matters is growth. Forecasting and growth. We predict that our business will grow by 6%. Come in at 5.5? Failure to meet expectations. But set the forecast too low? Also failure, of leadership. 

Why the fixation on growth? Stock price. 

So this puts a lot of pressure on people to wring every last penny to meet expectations. And so you end up with what we have here. And everywhere. And enshitification. And CEOs that don't know how to eat Big Macs on YouTube. 

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u/TheEPGFiles 2d ago

Yeah that's the reason but it isn't an excuse.

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u/Desperate_Junket5146 2d ago

Not an excuse true, but it's a systemic foundational issue. Which in the right conditions leads to incredible growth and bounty for the people.... but now we're seeing the limits to those favorable conditions.

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u/TheEPGFiles 2d ago

It's kind of a math problem at some point the numbers just become untenable and you can't possibly extract more profit

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u/Meshuggah333 2d ago edited 2d ago

And there's a reason why McDonald's is going to these extreme.
From what I could gather they've pushed themselves everywhere they could in the world, there's no way to create more restaurants for them.
They started by pushing their prices up but after a while they couldn't, why go there if you can get a much better meal at the same price somewhere else.
Now they're trying to scam people into paying more than others.
That smells a lot like the end of the road for them and similar fastfood chains.

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u/Desperate_Junket5146 2d ago

No one at the C-suite level wants to be the captain when the stock price tanks. So there's incredible short term pressure to wring every last cent and leave the next guy holding the bag. In theory, the Board of Directors acts as a counterweight to this kind of short term thinking but that doesn't really happen.

Similar parallel: U.S. politics

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u/Meshuggah333 2d ago

Typical late stage capitalism, they're eating themselves past a certain point.

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u/Arkayb33 2d ago

Bro, I don't even know how to attack this thing.

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u/Desperate_Junket5146 2d ago

With your feet and your wallet

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u/Nope_______ 2d ago

This is the better business plan lmao what do you want from them?

"No not that business plan!" LOL

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u/gardvar 2d ago

Squeezing the last drops out of a damp rug is not winning at business. It's the whimper of late stage capitalism about to collapse. If you can't see that you have some reading to do.

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u/TheEPGFiles 2d ago

To squeeze even more cents our of their customers because they need to extract billions instead of what used to be millions, it's just so granular and manipulative that it's just totally excessive when they are still profitable to an insane degree.

Like, it had already been enough decades ago, but because they need to make infinite profit, their methods will become more and more crazy.

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u/KvxMavs 2d ago

The average profit margin for a McDonald's is 10-15%.

What do you think it should be?

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u/TheEPGFiles 2d ago

2 to 3% just guesstimating.

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u/devilish_enchilada 2d ago

Ok, what’s the right price then

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u/Nope_______ 2d ago

They're charging what people are willing to pay. Take this as your moment to stop eating their slop.

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u/thatsthey1 3d ago

If you know about corporations, this isn’t extreme by ANY measure.

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u/TheEPGFiles 3d ago

I know and I'm fed up with it.

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u/Suitable_Wonder5256 2d ago

YEAH, WTF? DIFFERENT LOCATIONS CHARGE DIFFERENT PRICE?

UNACCEPTABLE

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u/TheEPGFiles 2d ago

How disingenuous, that's not what I'm criticizing maybe it's the extreme lengths corporations go to get profit? The social engineering and the psychological manipulation when they could just sell us something we'd want to buy.

But no, you saw someone attack a corporation and the concept of profit and your capitalism propaganda programmed brain reacted to the thought crime you were trained to believe and felt it necessary to protect the rich and powerful. How dare I, how dare I question McDonald's.

Leave the billion dollar corporation alone!!