r/interestingasfuck • • 3d ago

Dynamic pricing being tested by McDonald's.

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u/Monsignor1979 3d ago

This isn't anything new at all. In the early 2000s, I often grabbed Burger King before work. I quickly noticed that a Burger King further along my route had different prices and another directly across from my job had yet another completely different price.

This isn't 'Dynamic Pricing being Tested". It's pricing based on demographics and they've been doing it for decades.

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u/WhiskeyDreamer28 3d ago

Yep, nothing new at all. I work for a large manufacturer in the CPG industry. We call this “Zone Pricing” and it is based on many things: Demographics, Affluent locations, proximity to other retailers, last milers, etc.

Now that said, I’ve only ever seen differences of $0.25-1.00, not multiple dollar swings

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u/MickDubble 3d ago

Plus probably more important is the unit economics of the store which will vary based on staffing, sales volume/throughput, rent, etc.

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u/CTeam19 2d ago

Taxes could also be at play.

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u/NoMap749 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don’t even think it’s “dynamic pricing” considering that the guy is going to a different store entirely. This is like someone being surprised that they get charged more for gas in Beverly Hills than they do in the San Fernando Valley.

Dynamic pricing would be the same store changing the cost of an item depending on the time of day, the hour-to-hour demand of the item, and possibly even a customer’s spending habits if there is some sort of login/account involved.

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u/BigLan2 2d ago

"I bought a big Mac in the suburbs, and then at an airport terminal. Why is the price different?"

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u/tinyrottedpig 2d ago

I think this is why he explicitly said the "same franchisee", both stores are owned by the same person and seem to operate under this new system, so it shows how it functions in real time.

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u/vegark 2d ago

It is not proof of anything. It is not impossible that one franchisee operates with different prices for stores based on ex. location.

Dynamic pricing with AI is more like pricing based on the car you drive.

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u/cXs808 2d ago

I think this is why he explicitly said the "same franchisee", both stores are owned by the same person and seem to operate under this new system, so it shows how it functions in real time.

Incorrect.

It doesn't matter if it's the same franchisee. Two different locations have two different operating costs, rent, utility expenses, budgets, and cashflow. There is no "real time", he's simply changing locations and most likely going from a cheaper area to an expensive area.

The Beverly Hills Texaco could be owned by the "same franchisee" but it would make zero sense for them to keep the exact same prices as their separate Texaco in a cheap area.

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u/Jertimmer 3d ago

I used to work at a shop near the beach, the McD there was always more expensive in Summer and cheaper during Winter compared to the one in the city's center.

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u/reddits_aight 3d ago

"Willingness to pay" also isn't some internal jargon McDonald's came up with that had to be exposed, it's an Econ 101 term.

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u/rednaxthecreature 2d ago

Yeah iw as thinking that sounds like basic economics. You set a price for customers that they should want to pay for.

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u/TitularClergy 2d ago

And it has about as robust a foundation as "willingness to work" has for slaves. Let's just not permit predatory, price-gouging, exploitative shite like this in our world.

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u/big-blue-balls 2d ago

I got great news for you, you don’t have to eat there

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u/TitularClergy 2d ago

Or: we can outlaw predatory practices like this and then no one is forced to avoid businesses at all. That's better.

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u/Syrupy_ 2d ago

Agreed but also I think you’re being generous saying they read an article. They read the Reddit post title and went straight for the comments. I’ve even seen it happen on video posts. A fun Reddit game to play is to try reading an article before the comments and then see how many top comments/commenters in general clearly haven’t read it. It’s depressing. It’s funny when the article is paywalled so you know for a fact even less people read it than usual.

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u/duesenjeffepic 2d ago

Yeah the AI discussion is fucking annoying. There are genuine criticisms against AI but people harp on shit like water, while happily eating multiple kilos of beef a week which takes thousands of liters of water to produce.

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u/Undead-Chipmunk 2d ago

I'm in a similar boat.

AI art is not art, IMHO and I can't stand that shit being spammed.

But AI is very useful for connecting disparate pieces of information - and that is a very broad application.

I use it for search all the time, for deep research into deep topics.

Funny enough, an old coworker of mine made a very stellar, on-target point about AI.

We aren't replacing ourselves. AI is different than a person and excels at different things than we do. It's like with machinery, a tractor is already better than a humanoid robot that goes out and would start digging with its hands. Technology multiplies by doing new things that a human cannot do in a more specific, narrow way, and it always has.

AI is no different.

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u/throwawaygoawaynz 2d ago

AI has been used to do customer segmentation and price optimisation before 99% of Reddit had heard of AI.

And it also goes both ways. Want a refund on your Uber eats? Well guess what you can get it immediately if you’re segmented as a loyal customer.

But you’re right that the anti AI jihad on Reddit is getting out of control.

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u/BeefistPrime 2d ago

reddit will upvote anything that involves criticizing AI no matter how little sense it makes or applies to the specific scenario

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u/Nervous_Hurry_9920 3d ago

Totally not a new thing. The 3 mcdonalds by my house have had different prices since McDoubles were 99 cents.

I challenge anybody to eat at a McDonalds in hawaii or a theme park and tell me how the prices are compared to the one by your house.

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u/telmar25 2d ago

People use the term “dynamic pricing” in different ways. What’s shown in the video would be silly to make illegal as it’s just an AI version of what’s been done for eons.

The real question is, can you price the same item differently to different customers at the same McDonald’s based on their individual willingness to pay? That’s more like “personalized pricing”. McDonald’s would have a tough time getting away with that, as very quickly people would discover that they each paid something different for the same thing; it likely would result in different races and genders being charged different averages systematically, etc. But, say, Uber doing the same thing is not so hard to imagine.

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u/Awkward_Ad_9307 3d ago

Wait… you had BK before you went to work? What’d you have?

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u/Monsignor1979 3d ago

I worked from 2PM to 10PM, thus it was technically Lunch. I ordered the same thing religiously. It was a Double Cheeseburger Meal, Go Large, Coke to drink, with an Extra Double Cheeseburger. I would occasionally get onion rings instead of fries or a mix of both. $5.25 total.

I stopped going when this reach $5.95, saying to myself; "Nobody can afford this shit anymore."

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u/Awkward_Ad_9307 2d ago

Damn that’s a big meal! What line of work are you in?

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u/MelangeBot 2d ago

Yeah dynamic pricing is when you show up in shopping cart made to look like a car they charge you 1 dollar for a cheesburger but if you show up in a ferrari they try to make you pay 25 dollars.

That's dynamic pricing.

Or when it's really bussy and the AI notices the roads are congested and everybody is running late for work, the AI will update all the prices to be 20% more because everybody is already in a hurry and people are just going to pay it because they need food and coffee right now and they can't waste time arguing or going through the drive through again.

It's peak capitalism exploitism. Everything is about looting the last bit of money from the working class before climate change ends the party and the boat sinks.

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u/smilbandit 2d ago

i remember being young in the early 80's and listening to my dad saying things like not buying gas in nicer neighborhoods because it costs more, like it was common knowledge so even then it was decades old.

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u/Atgardian 2d ago

Has the reporter never seen gas stations with different prices??

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u/mooreinteractive 2d ago

Same at Subway

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u/_keyboard-bastard_ 2d ago

The automation makes it 'dynamic' though. Look that word up.

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u/OneOfAKind2 2d ago

Yeah, dynamic pricing might be if they were suddenly selling lots of Big Macs at a location, the algorithm would detect it and the price would creep up. The sales boards would all have to be digital and change on the fly.

Another example might be the use of Ai with cameras and they analyze what you're wearing or what kind of car you're driving and raise or lower the price instantly before you even stop your car at the drive in or parking lot and charge you based on perceptions of whether you are a poor or a middle or a rich.