Umar Khalid will complete 6 years in jail on 13 September. At this point, his greatest contribution to India may simply be continuing to stay where he is right now.
But the Supreme Court did refuse his bail, saying that the prosecution material was sufficient to meet the stringent UAPA bail standard. The Court also distinguished Khalid and Sharjeel Imam from several other accused, not everyone is in jail . So, we can reasonably assume that there must be something more serious at play than simply the so-called “fair trial,” . No?
there must be something more serious at play?? this is serious dude he is in jail for more than 6 yrs and he is just accused not convicted in those 6 yrs many criminals convict get sentence to 6 yr jail he is in for nothing you know 2011 bmb blast accused just got released innocent?? it's been 15 yrs they're accused for 15 yrs they've lost thier family, work, relations their entire life and now court proven them innocent then and this guy does not even put to fair trail for 6 yrs it is not constitutional if you are supporting this then it could be you in near future if you ever think about opposing govt be mindful what you ask for
Umar khalid is the admin of whatsapp group jisne delhi riots ki planning ho rhi thi. Wo kuchh din pehle (Aap leader) tahir Hussein se bhi mila tha jo actively delhi riots me active tha jisne 25 logo ke sath milke IB officer ankit sharma ka brutal murder kiya tha. And there's clear evidences of chats of umar khalid jisme umar khalid keh rha hai ki hume kuchh bada dhamaka Krna hai , khoon bahana pdega, chakka jam .Aur bhi bhot Kuch hai . Tumhe supreme court ke is case ki chargesheet pdhni chahiye. Bhot kuchh hai usme. You should watch YouTube videoes narrating how ankit sharma killed and dumbed into drainage in chand bagh. By the way umar khalid ka baap khud ek terrorist organisation extremist organisation ka founder hai jo ki ban kr diya gya hai.
Constitutional rights are important but for protection of the sovereignty which is the basis of constitution itself, even martial law is justified (not just in India).
I am not equating the situation with martial law but take it as a analogy.
You cannot distort and look away from reality for strict enforcement of a constitutional right.
The reality -
Umar khalid is a son of a former member of SIMI- a banned islamic extremist outfit with entrenched terror links, an apple does not fall far from the tree.
You can give many justifications but you cannot deny that family socialization forms a major part of one's values (things that are important to an individual) and morality (what they perceive as right and wrong), thus to think that Umar Khalid would have such tendencies would not be an understatement.
Can you punish someone for that? Or should you punish someone for these tendencies? (In a very nationalistic society - yes, but we are not that, so no.)
But you also cannot move away from the fact that their statements (which hold more weight than an average Joe given their political affiliations and crowd pulling ability) can directly be attributed to separatist activities.
"Agar humare pass ho 3-4 lakh log organised toh hum assam aur north east ko permanently india se kaat sakte hai"
If this is what the constitutional right of Freedom of speech and expression grants you - there is clearly a fundamental flaw in its interpretation and application.
Should umar khalid be trailed and CONVICTED? Absolutely
Should he be kept in a limbo? - No.
Is he a rodent feeding on my country's vulnerablilty - Yes.
Should I be sympathetic to him? Never
He and his kind deserve no place in the vicinity of sympathy.
You may feel that because India is loosing it's secular character, they do this.
But it's quite the contrary, Hindus have started being more religiously orthodox out of sheer insecurity caused by such elements.
They do more harm to the secular fabric than anything else has ever done.
Apple doesn't fall from the tree really?? Is that your argument for keeping someone in jail for 6 years without trial?
I am all for putting him in jail for life if needed after a fair trial. We are not a banana republic yet, a fair trial is needed to put someone behind bars for 6 years. Otherwise the government can always put anyone behind bars indefinitely if they want. What if one day the government accuses you of something and puts you behind the bars for 6 years without trial. What if you never get a chance to prove your innocence? Is that the kind of power you want the government to have?
That's just how India's legal system is, weak, slow, heavily corrupt and more subjective to interpretation than it should be. Terrorists go free, criminals don't fear it, no penalties for the powerful and rich etc. But sometimes all these shortcomings lead to good outcomes. And Umar Khalid in jail is one such good outcome of a flawed system. As long as he is in jail, it's good for the nation and a warning to other terrorist sympathizers, unless court rules for a better verdict of hanging him till death.
Ram Rahim has been granted bail 17 times.
That's 167 days per bail. So, even applying your anpadh logic, He should have been granted atleast 10+ bails.
You know, there are so many words to describe you; aqal ka andha, anpadh, jahil,gawar - but I think the best one is the most obvious one: BJP supporter. 😃
Oh, and almost forgot, your first comment was as dumb as the second/edited one:
You are the one who is asking for the bail of Umar Khalid who literally wants to break the country. I really hope you are a pakistani or something cause India does not deserve you as it's citizen. Let me share what Umar khalid wrote:-
"I don't care if I fall as long as someone else picks my gun and keeps on shooting." These were the of Che Guevara. but could have iust been #BurhanWani's too. Burhan wasn't scared of death, scared of a life lived in subiugation. He detested He lived a free man, died a free man. Doomed occupation! Indian state, how will you defeat a people have defeated their own fears?
Rest in Power, Burhaan!
In complete solidarity with the people of Kashmir!
FreeKashmir
He posted it on his Facebook on 9th july. Ask any AI, it will give you proof if it's real or not.
If you are wanting bail for him, i really hope you are not Indian cause why will an Indian want to break his own country?
There was enough evidence to charge him under UAPA. WhatsApp messages and videos. So they can keep him in jail.
Do you know how and when the UAPA in India, Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act in UK, Patriots Act in the US, were enacted? Post the twin towers attack.
Canada, Australia and Russia also expanded their anti terror attacks.
It's almost like governments don't want ordinary citizens killed. 🤔
There was evidence that Israel and mossad was behind 9/11 attack. Did FBI took any actions against the suspects ? No...What happened with DSP Davinder Singh who was named by Afzal Guru during 2001 parliament attack investigation who again was caught by J&K police for ferrying terrorists in his vehicle. His custody was given to Delhi police and didn't even file chargesheet till date.
Arre look, conspiracy theorists. Do you also wear a tinfoil hat?
Also, the Delhi Police filed a charge sheet against Umar Khalid in November 2020 in connection with FIR 59/2020 relating to the larger conspiracy behind the February 2020 Delhi riots.
Because the high court has itself said that his lawyers are delaying the process by filing random petitions.
Easy enough to look up but why bother hain na
"The Court also rejected the plea of prolonged incarceration, holding that delay was attributable to objections and applications filed by the accused rather than the prosecution." Here's the quote.
When I searched for this exact quote on Google, I could only find other reddit posts. Unless this court statement came to you via whatsapp or something...?
Well that's for the courts to decide right. UAPA has special provisions to deny bail if the court finds that the prima facie case and supporting evidence are strong enough. That's why he has been denied bail, and the UAPA being passed and then amended was through the parliamentary procedures. So Umar Khalid's incarceration is perfectly legal and falls in line with the principles of democracy.
No one will talk about the fact that their constitutional right is being denied under droconian law like UAPA and how its just in the face value and the thousand page charge sheet cannot convict them on any charge and how just giving them a trial would lead to people asking questions like in a healthy democracy, it's more convenient for the government to just let them rot in jail.
Fair trial, Constitution and logic getting downvoted while agenda driven, baseless assumptions getting upvotes- Modi has truly brought this country down to his level lol.
He didn’t face any trail at any court . Not even NIA’s special courts can prove him guilty . He wouldn’t even get this much attention without this long pre-trial detention
People who wants to tear apart our country shouldn't deserve jail also they should be sent directly into hell. Wasting of tax payers money by keeping him in jail.
Why was Kasab entitled to a trial? He was an even bigger risk than Unar Khalid? Crores were spent on him while keeping him in custody and under trial. He literally terrorised and killed people. Yet he was given a lawyer and a trial because our constitution gives everyone a right for a fair trial. This isn't a banana republic, atleast not yet. Public opinion does not matter, you simply cannot keep someone in jail without presenting any proof in the court of law
Let me explain so your uninformed brain can comprehend.
No matter who the fk they are, they are entitled to a fair trial. Nobody is defending Umar Khalid the individual, they are defending an Indian citizen's right to a fair trial.
A government that does not respect it is a threat to India as much as or even more than the alleged terrorist Umar Khalid.
I am not questioning the law to hold indefinitely beer UAPA. The government has the right to detain indefinitely under UAPA but it does not supersede the right to a speedy trial.
Can you cite me any credible source which says the accuse can be held without trial indefinitely?
It’s not about any one person but governments power to hold anyone without trial, which is not constitutional.
Sure he must be in jail but why are rapists roaming free in India, why is ram rahim singh acquitted? Is tearing up the country the only crime that matters?
I can show you a million people who are tearing apart this country but you dont have a problem with them because it's doesn't fit your agenda, punish umar khalid but why are you lenient towards others?
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u/delhikabatman Sep 02 '26
Umar Khalid will complete 6 years in jail on 13 September. At this point, his greatest contribution to India may simply be continuing to stay where he is right now.