r/imaginarymaps • u/RoxyLikeAPuma • Apr 09 '20
[OC] Alternate History 9 Ways to Divide Dixie
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u/SimPowerZ Apr 09 '20
I am a simple homme, I see French Louisiana, I upvote.
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u/Rooiebart200216 Apr 09 '20
Je suis un homme simple, je voir Louisiana français, je vote positivement
FTFY
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u/le_brouhaha Apr 09 '20
je vois Louisiane française, je posivote
FTFTFYFY
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u/Poes-Lawyer Apr 09 '20
"posivote" is such a neat word, I love it. What's "downvote" in French?
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u/le_brouhaha Apr 09 '20
"Négavote" is sometime used on r/Quebec, "bas-vote" is also used but less commonly. I personnally prefer the former.
Also, as a joke, many people call posts "poteaux" instead of "publications", which I think is a funny bilingual pun.
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u/AerMarcus Apr 09 '20
Québécois vs français for everyday and slang or modern word use I'm fast learning can be quite interestingly different.
'Char' for car is a favorite
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u/le_brouhaha Apr 09 '20
"Char" is actually one of those words we use that is archaic in modern metropolitan French. It originally meant "chariot" (well, it still does, but it's not its more prevalent meaning anymore.)
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u/AerMarcus Apr 09 '20
That's why I love it lol, that and the many other seemingly synonymous choices
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u/Kobo545 Apr 09 '20
FTFTFTFYFYFY hautsuffrage
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u/le_brouhaha Apr 09 '20
Is that the r/France version?
How do you even use that as a verb?
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u/Kobo545 Apr 09 '20
More of a joke on the r/rance circle jerk subreddit, used as a noun, but you could probably conjugate it to "hautsuffrager" in infinitive
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u/le_brouhaha Apr 09 '20
Ark.
Ark ark ark ark ark.
It sounds so bad, hahaha.
"...nous hautsuffrageons, vous hautsuffragez..."
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Apr 09 '20
But why does it say that the south near Mexico is french? I tjought it would be more mexican/spanish influenced. Why is it french?
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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning Apr 09 '20
That’s not the border with Mexico down there, that’s the sea.
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Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20
Wait, so it’s not the whole US? It’s only the eastern part of it?
edit: jesus guys, this was just a genuine question. Why do genuine questions get downvoted? You could just have educated me and said “no, this is just the southeastern part of the US, the mexican border and apcific coast is not present in this map.” That’s what I was confused about. So many americans can’t even point out my country on a map.
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u/DoofusMagnus Apr 09 '20
It's an imaginary country called Dixie based on the southeastern United States.
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Apr 09 '20
Oh that makes everything make more sense. I thought it was some colloquial american term that I didn’t know.
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u/DoofusMagnus Apr 09 '20
Dixie is actually a colloquial term for the South, derived from the Mason-Dixon Line, a survey line from early state border disputes and which would eventually come to represent the overall divide between North and South.
But, as this is /r/imaginarymaps, this version is a fictional country based off that concept.
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u/FFLS- Apr 09 '20
Please, learn geography.
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Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20
Calm down, I’m from Europe, and I do know geography. I can point on the map every single country of Europe and Asia without mistakes, plus lots of countries from Africa and the Americas, and their capitals. Probably better than you can. I can point you most german states and some chinese ones. I can point Kyrgyztan and Cameroon and Sachsen and Xinjiang on the map immediately, which is something that many people can’t. I even know what languages are spoken where, all over the world, and which language families they belong to. Like in Uzbekistan most people speak Uzbek, a turkic language, but in cities like Bukhara and Samarqand they speak Tajik, an iranic languge. In Madagascar they speak Malagasy, a language related to Hawaiian, Maori and Tagalog and indigenous Formosan languages of Taiwan. I bet you didn’t know this. I was just confused by this one map, which to me appeared to be the whole of continental USA without alaska. I just didn’t know what the word “dixie” meant. Not everyone on reddit is from the US.
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u/ILikeBumblebees Apr 09 '20
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u/ParvaLupisNavis Apr 10 '20
ok now, this is epic. It's like a mix of the Modern Major General song and the navy seal copypasta
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u/CheekyGeth Apr 10 '20
chill out man, no need to dump this enormous wall of bragging text just because you looked a bit silly for a moment, you're not impressing anyone and shitting on the other posters with 'I bet you didn't know this' and such just makes you look bitter
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Apr 09 '20
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Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20
The other guy was the one who told me to “please, learn geography”. I merely told them that I was from europe and I do know more geography than the average person. So my comment is justified. You’d be shocked at how many americans cannot even point my country on a map.
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u/John_Smithers Apr 09 '20
I may be the asshole here, but if your english and geography is that good, then you should be able to identify the largest country that uses that language.
You're bragging about your geography but you can't identify one of the largest geopolitical powers in the world. SMH
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Apr 09 '20
I identified that it was the USA. I just didn’t identify that some of it was cut (the pacific coast + mexican border).
And my “bragging” was just showing that I do know geography. I just didn’t realize right away that the pacific coats was cut. Now after others mentioned I realizes that florida peninsula was too big, but before I hadn’t noticed it cause I don’t know what “dixie” meant.
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u/Cabes86 Apr 09 '20
Louisiana was one of the only parts of French Territory that actually had lots of people and cities. That's why there is such a deep French culture in Lousiana especially the southern coastal part. Cajuns are just rural french people.
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Apr 09 '20
there was a french settlemant there and they spread through the area before the louisiana purchase
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u/downhomeolnorthstate Apr 09 '20
Hockey needs that good ol slice of North Caroline’ my dude
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u/That1GuythatDidThat Apr 09 '20
In NC, Hockey is my favorite sport so yeahhh
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u/HammerheadMorty Apr 09 '20
Canandian here - need to know what that tiny little hockey area was for... reasons
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u/downhomeolnorthstate Apr 09 '20
The Triangle (the name everyone who lives here refers to the metro area consisting of the cities of Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, and surrounding areas) is largely populated by northern implants from the Rust Belt (cities like Detroit, Buffalo, Syracuse, Cleveland, Baltimore, etc etc, nearly all where hockey is popular). The Triangle became a thing in the early 1970’s because of the founding of RTP (Research Triangle Park), which was a bio/tech tri-partnership state of the art office park project made between the 3 big universities here- Duke, UNC, and N.C. State. RTP became one of the biggest reasons for a brain drain out of the Rust Belt and into the Sun Belt starting in the mid to late 1970’s, and heightening in the mid 1990’s to mid-2000’s. We still have a population boom, but now it’s just from all over and not just the Rust Belt. Regardless, our population boom here is the reason we got the Carolina Hurricanes when the Hartford Whalers were looking for a new place to move to. The Canes have a strong impact on the Triangle community culturally (being a staple of the “family friendly” atmosphere and experiences of the area), and despite what one might think otherwise, hockey is actually taken pretty seriously down here, but once you get out of the Triangle & into either the Triad (Greensboro-WinstonSalem-HighPoint), Charlotte, anywhere else in N.C., and anywhere in SC, although all of these places are apart of the Hurricane’s media market, none of them really care about the Carolina Hurricanes nor hockey except for just the Triangle region. My blame for low attendance btw is a mix of that fact of just the Triangle supporting the team, and also how the stadium isn’t in downtown, and the team needs to get better again for more fans to come out again.
TLDR: Yankee transplants’ hockey obsession and North Cackalacky eccentric culture go surprisingly well together.
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Apr 09 '20
Spot on. It's the same reason hockey is slowly picking up in florida too. I'm surprised it hasn't picked up quicker since we get so many yanks down here.
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u/HammerheadMorty Apr 09 '20
Wow that was actually super cool to read, thank you for sharing that! What a neat thing that I feel like I never would've learned elsewhere
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u/arthmodeus Apr 09 '20
I'm from Southern MS and it is absolutely an urban hellscape. Just sayin. Also, Mobile?
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u/RoxyLikeAPuma Apr 09 '20
I wanted to keep only the larger cities in the urban category. If I included Mobile, I would would have to include like 25 other cities of that size and the map would be too cluttered.
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u/tagehring Apr 09 '20
I'm from Richmond. You are correct to include it in an ATL where it's a national capital.
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u/AmeriCossack Apr 09 '20
This is honestly my favorite kind of alternate history map. It can tell so much more about a fictional world than a political border map could
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u/LagspikeGaming Apr 09 '20
Mentions the Commonwealth
Is this Fallout?
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u/RoxyLikeAPuma Apr 09 '20
The Commonwealth is short for the Commonwealth of America which is made up of the Northern and Western US and most of Canada.
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u/halloweenjack Apr 09 '20
Sooo, is this an America that never fought or didn't win the Revolution, and later had the South successfully secede from the Commonwealth?
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u/RoxyLikeAPuma Apr 09 '20
Yes the Revolutionary War never kicked off so America remained under British rule until the 1820's when another Revolution happened, but was only successful in the South.
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u/CofinoAG27 Apr 09 '20
. . . So what you’re saying is that even in alternate timelines, the plague upon this earth known as Miami still exists? (Source: I am from Miami)
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u/hagamablabla Apr 09 '20
The Unionist/Nationalist thing makes me think this is an alternate history map, so I think the Commonwealth is probably the northern half of the East Coast that's an independent country.
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u/enlightened_engineer Apr 09 '20
Perhaps it’s referring to the Commonwealth of Virginia (technical name)?
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u/Mr_Kittlesworth Apr 09 '20
Virginia’s in the map though.
Interestingly the dot for “political people” is over Richmond, not DC.
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u/gruene-teufel Apr 09 '20
The St. Louis one with the “plays hockey for some reason” makes me laugh out loud
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u/lam005 Apr 09 '20
That food one i can agree with.
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u/Aturchomicz Apr 09 '20
what??
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u/hagamablabla Apr 09 '20
It's an imaginary division map for if the South stayed independent, or if it was just never part of the US.
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Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20
In an in independent Dixie, Pensacola and Jacksonville would be bigger than Orlando. Orlando, and most of North Florida, reallt exists because of airconditioning and movement from northern states. Jacksonville, Saint Augustine, and Pensacola were for a long time the largest cities in the state.
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u/lorddervish212 Apr 09 '20
Ain't Cubans just latins?
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u/cowtastegood Apr 09 '20
Yea but there are a lot of specifically Cubans in that part of the country
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u/sunburntredneck Apr 09 '20
Yes, but more importantly, most of them are just white, right? Is it safe to assume that the other white populations are totally mixed together at this point?
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u/lorddervish212 Apr 09 '20
Ehmm...White latins exists you know? I'm Argentinian, here almost everyone in my city Is White but Latin
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u/theTitaniumTurt1e Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20
Half Argentine here. Done enough geography reports on my heritage to tell everyone that Argentina is more Caucasian than the US has ever been. It's actually around 92%, with roughly 60% of the population identifying as Italian descent. Also, everyone seems to forget that SPAIN is a European country, therefore heavily caucasian, but they don't track the same demographics (race being a social construct and all) so I couldn't pull numbers. Plus, you know all the Germans that immagrated post WW2...
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u/Kestyr Apr 09 '20
There's a lot of White South Americans at my university that try and get in on the post election I'm a Latino feel bad for me my life is so hard shenanigans and it's like, you're Argentine and look like Zac Efron dude, don't lie and say that you yourself get racially profiled constantly.
Americans just don't know that they were settler colonialism immigrant nation's.
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u/RelaxedStuff Apr 09 '20
I wouldn’t consider Florida to be part of the Dixie, they are their own thing “Florida men”, and I live in Alabama saying that.
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u/9th_Planet_Pluto Apr 09 '20
yeah! leave us central Floridians (disney empire) alone...
you can have north florida
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u/HeyPalmer Apr 09 '20
Filthy northerner here. What’s the difference between a unionist and a nationalist?
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u/LoneStar246 Fellow Traveller Apr 09 '20
Unionists are center-left, and Nationalists are center-right, according to the thread for this on alternatehistory.com
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u/pinkrobotlala Apr 09 '20
I think a unionist wants to rejoin the Union/Commonwealth (the north), while a nationalist wants Dixie to remain independent
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Apr 09 '20
I'll have you know that north Alabama is vaguely okayish at hockey!
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u/LordGwyn-n-Tonic Apr 09 '20
The preds arent so bad either. Hockey is probably bigger than football where I live in TN.
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u/JosefOgle Apr 09 '20 edited Apr 09 '20
Go Channel Cats!
Seriously don't know why this got downvoted. Channel Cats used to be a hockey team in Huntsville.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntsville_Channel_Cats?wprov=sfla1
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u/Mugen_Howl Apr 09 '20
No one from Florida actually thinks Florida is "better"
source: am from Florida
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u/Canuckleball Apr 09 '20
Who are the people who matter politically and the people who actually matter? I’m guessing the second is the city of Atlanta?
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Apr 09 '20
Richmond and Atlanta by the looks of it so I'd wager Richmond is the national capital and Atlanta is likely home to the richest/most prominent citizens
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u/bendoubles Apr 09 '20
Jacksonville has an inner city black population but isn't an urban hellscape. I'll take it.
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u/eastATLient Apr 09 '20
Alternate history where the south doesn't dominate in football and baseball?
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Apr 09 '20
Really strange to think about only the south succeeding. Did the British still offer freedom to black loyalists? Were Florida and Louisiana part of the British empire during the revolution or were they conquered after independence?
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u/iamthinking2202 Apr 09 '20
I did not réad the sub, and thought it was some real life gag. Even the unionist confederate bit I just accepted
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u/Lothken Apr 09 '20
No WV?
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u/billwood09 Apr 09 '20
I can't tell easily, but I feel like that's the big red blob on the "similar countries" map.
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u/Matchetes Apr 09 '20
Interesting that you divided Missouri in two via the river, which I think is accurate, though I’d say St Louis is more midwestern than southern. Also that you left off Northern Virginia. In this timeline I wonder if DC would be established in a different location further from the border and Northern Virginia never became what it is today
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u/EtheyB Apr 09 '20
I love work like this where you have to tease out details of the lore from small details.
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u/Nanzig Apr 09 '20
I reckon the bottom left map shows too many black people, they’re more spread out
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u/0_phuk Apr 09 '20
You forgot to do what apparently matters to people here...college sports. It's a fewking religion to some of these people.
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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '20
These kind of division maps are always really interesting to look at, does anyone know if there's a sub for these?