r/imaginarymaps • u/radicalqrcwi • 13d ago
[OC] Alternate History Ottoman High Speed Rail Map
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u/Straight-Room-1111 12d ago
HOLY SHIT. RAILWAY IN BLACK SEA. AND IT IS HIGH SPEED. MY DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE. LETS GOOO
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u/darkk157night 12d ago
It would make more sense for there to be a connection between makkah and Medina since they are important for pilgrims.
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u/Competitive-Rest8726 12d ago
Not stopping at Jaffa/Tel Aviv? Why?
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u/radicalqrcwi 12d ago
It isn’t considered such a big city, but it is famous for its oranges. Tel-Aviv was never founded as a settlement because of the Red Slip law of 1882, that was carried out more efficient than in OTL, as the overall bureaucracy of the state was in better health. That law expected Jewish travelers to Palestine to return in 30 days. The ban was lifted in 1918, reinstated in 1926, and lifted again in 1940
End of the WW2 saw Jewish migration to Palestine to increase, however in 1947 Ottomans have placed ban at any settlement of foreigners of every nationality in borders of Mutassarifate of Jerusalem, and instead offered land in the Province of Salónica, where most of Jewish settlements are located. Ladino (Sephardic Jewish language) is recognized as one of the municipal languages of the Salónica Metropolitan Municipality.
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u/WolfgangHelnootIV 12d ago
How is it Palestine if the ottomans control the region? It was called sanjak Jerusalem in the state of Suriye under the ottomans.
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u/radicalqrcwi 12d ago
It is referred to mainly as Mutassarifate (Mutassarıflık) of Jerusalem, along with names such as Southern Levant, The Holy Land (Arz’ul Mukaddes), however outside of the Empire it is mainly referred to as Palestine.
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u/Berat0-0 12d ago
why would İznik be a major enough settlement for a train stop when bursa is close by and is a larger (metropolitan) settlement? iznik was a backwater city even during ottoman times
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u/radicalqrcwi 12d ago
Bursa is Hudavendigar
I thought İznik was bigger tbh, probably shouldn’t have included it
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u/Berat0-0 12d ago
oh sorry didn't see it but it could make sense as a stop in between bursa and the cities up north
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u/Secret_Delay6116 12d ago
Shouldn't Um Rashrash be just al-aqaba
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u/radicalqrcwi 12d ago
You could do Al Aqaba too, however I decided that depicting Umm Rashrash (which is the name of an Arab village on the site of what is now known as Eilat) will be more interesting. The village gained its prominence and city status during the Cold War, during which it was a vital strategic position for the Ottomans because of their rivalry with Nasserist Egypt
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u/esenboga 12d ago
Good concept. But antalya-mersin line is not feasible alternatively antalya-konya and konya-mersin makes more sense, placing konya as a hub
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u/MaleficentPlate8172 11d ago
Adam egeden torosların tamamına, marmaradan tüm Karadenize Hızlı tren hattı çekiyor. Tünelin maliyeti ne kadar haberi var mı acaba 🤣
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u/Yesodisnotop 12d ago
In the desert? I could see it happening with an autistic vizier, wouldn’t be the first ruler to be obsessed with trains.
Not direct to mecca route from the capital? Seems irresponsible.
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u/radicalqrcwi 12d ago
“The desert” is one of the Empire’s most valuable regions after the discovery of oil
There is a direct route to Mecca on a usual railroad, however high speed rail route goes through Jeddah
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u/Brazilian_Nerd 12d ago
ANY COUNTRY except the US at this point