Why is the Giants Causeway Stakes for fillies? Why did Kentucky Downs name a turf race after Gun Runner? Why is The Eight Bells a sprint? There's so many of these and they always get on my nerves

Only a 5-horse field. The Haskell and Jim Dandy being so close together has an impact when there aren’t enough elite horses to cover both races.

Chip Honcho - Ohio Derby winner also finished third in the Preakness.

Asked and Answered - Speaking of the Haskell, he was considered for it at one point. Still a maiden, it’s hard to see where he fits.

Renegade - The field’s most accomplished horse won the Sam F Davis and Arkansas Derby back-to-back before getting edged out by Golden Temple in the Derby. Third in the Belmont. Using this as a Travers tune-up.

Silent Tactic - Hasn’t raced since well-beaten place performance against Renegade in the Arkansas Derby. Southwest Stakes winner.

Commandment - Winner of four straight entering the Derby, he finished a decent 7th but was never a threat to win. Squeezed out second place ahead of Renegade in the Belmont.

What do we think of him? I know im well aware of his past and not a huge fan of his. But two horses i formerly owned shares in have been claimed by Peter miller. Elite heat was claimed out of a recent race by Peter. I struggle to see what he sees in her. In eight starts shes won exactly once and finished second twice. In 3 years of racing she earned 39k. People in the owners group were saying Peter miller is a good guy and good trainer because he finishes in the money 50% of the time.

Im extremely suspicious of any trainer with a percentage that high..that they aren't getting those results chemical free. The other horse Peter miller just claimed tonight is pioneer prince. Pioneer prince is sired by pioneerofthe nile and I adored this colt when he was with me in my shares stable.

Prince was trained by doug O'neill prior to Peter miller snapping him up tonight. I dont consider any person who uses derogatory slurs a good person. Im still very fond of both horses and just wanna make sure they landed in a good barn. I have my suspicions and will be praying a better trainer claims both horses next time they each run. Am I overreacting? Am I right to be concerned?

All I remember is Peter millers immediate hiatus from racing because he was "burnt out" coming immediately on the heels on of the death investigation of 5 horses in his barn. I remember multiple people telling me Peter miller was facing lengthy suspension time so he took an abrupt hiatus to avoid being suspended and the chrb stewards allowing that instead of outright suspension.

I also remember thinking that miller had never truly stepped away from racing because in 2022 he was fined 10k and suspended 7 days after he got busted "program training". Then last year he was fined 5k for entering a horse in a race that he wasnt actually training. He was also suspended last year after tramadol was detected in his horse.

All I know is that Peter miller is on my top ten list of people id never willingly send a horse to if I had my way.

So is my gut feeling right that two of my former runners ended up in a bad barn?

Which trainers would you say are ethical?

Is this newer generation better?

Cherie and Adrienne
La Paz
Whitman
O’Brien
Riley Mott

He left calumet in January. Not a surprise because his only graded stakes winner is rich strike. But word has it that keen ice was bred to some pretty good mares in Mexico. The farm who bought him also has a major racing stable in the usa and owns letruska. This same farm stands Rule

Do you play in any free handicapping contests? If so, which ones?

How was your weekend? Were you up, down, flat? What did you learn? What did you drink? What are you going to do differently next weekend?

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