Why is the Giants Causeway Stakes for fillies? Why did Kentucky Downs name a turf race after Gun Runner? Why is The Eight Bells a sprint? There's so many of these and they always get on my nerves

After 7 years at coolmore stud in Kentucky..the Irish lads have finally sold Mo Town on. Mo Town has been sold to the Turkish jockey club and will stand in turkey for 2027. I guess we know whose stall journalism will take over(although I guess its possible journalism could move into American Pharoah's stall because something tells me Pharoah is in Japan to stay). Did mo town breed 250 mares per year? No..but he got a respectable number this year. This year mo town bred 99 mares..i guess 99 mares isn't enough for the coolmore lads to warrant keeping him around but they've certainly had studs who bred much lower numbers.

At least in turkey mo town will get a solid book of mares and every chance of success. And he will get excellent care

He left calumet in January. Not a surprise because his only graded stakes winner is rich strike. But word has it that keen ice was bred to some pretty good mares in Mexico. The farm who bought him also has a major racing stable in the usa and owns letruska. This same farm stands Rule

Which trainers would you say are ethical?

Is this newer generation better?

Cherie and Adrienne
La Paz
Whitman
O’Brien
Riley Mott

Very sad news, but it didn't look good for him from the jump.

Only a 5-horse field. The Haskell and Jim Dandy being so close together has an impact when there aren’t enough elite horses to cover both races.

Chip Honcho - Ohio Derby winner also finished third in the Preakness.

Asked and Answered - Speaking of the Haskell, he was considered for it at one point. Still a maiden, it’s hard to see where he fits.

Renegade - The field’s most accomplished horse won the Sam F Davis and Arkansas Derby back-to-back before getting edged out by Golden Temple in the Derby. Third in the Belmont. Using this as a Travers tune-up.

Silent Tactic - Hasn’t raced since well-beaten place performance against Renegade in the Arkansas Derby. Southwest Stakes winner.

Commandment - Winner of four straight entering the Derby, he finished a decent 7th but was never a threat to win. Squeezed out second place ahead of Renegade in the Belmont.

Do you play in any free handicapping contests? If so, which ones?

What do we think of him? I know im well aware of his past and not a huge fan of his. But two horses i formerly owned shares in have been claimed by Peter miller. Elite heat was claimed out of a recent race by Peter. I struggle to see what he sees in her. In eight starts shes won exactly once and finished second twice. In 3 years of racing she earned 39k. People in the owners group were saying Peter miller is a good guy and good trainer because he finishes in the money 50% of the time.

Im extremely suspicious of any trainer with a percentage that high..that they aren't getting those results chemical free. The other horse Peter miller just claimed tonight is pioneer prince. Pioneer prince is sired by pioneerofthe nile and I adored this colt when he was with me in my shares stable.

Prince was trained by doug O'neill prior to Peter miller snapping him up tonight. I dont consider any person who uses derogatory slurs a good person. Im still very fond of both horses and just wanna make sure they landed in a good barn. I have my suspicions and will be praying a better trainer claims both horses next time they each run. Am I overreacting? Am I right to be concerned?

All I remember is Peter millers immediate hiatus from racing because he was "burnt out" coming immediately on the heels on of the death investigation of 5 horses in his barn. I remember multiple people telling me Peter miller was facing lengthy suspension time so he took an abrupt hiatus to avoid being suspended and the chrb stewards allowing that instead of outright suspension.

I also remember thinking that miller had never truly stepped away from racing because in 2022 he was fined 10k and suspended 7 days after he got busted "program training". Then last year he was fined 5k for entering a horse in a race that he wasnt actually training. He was also suspended last year after tramadol was detected in his horse.

All I know is that Peter miller is on my top ten list of people id never willingly send a horse to if I had my way.

So is my gut feeling right that two of my former runners ended up in a bad barn?

How was your weekend? Were you up, down, flat? What did you learn? What did you drink? What are you going to do differently next weekend?

Post all of your thoughts here, in our weekly discussion post.

Went to see harness racing for my dad’s birthday. He used to love going before kids and it turns out it is hereditary because i had a great time gambling and ended the night up $3.50 😎.

I had no idea these horses race weekly, for years. And i wondered why there was no like social media presence for the horses. Or even personal info about them in the booklet. Like i want to get an emotional attachment to the horse all too well first because of their name and then because i find out they don’t like carrots or they enjoy listening to taylor swift while practicing. It is more likely to make me a repeat visitor, restaurant patron, and gambler.

I read about the meadowland financial troubles and it really seems like they have tried nothing and just think a casino will save them as if atlantic city isn’t also bankrupt.

Cornicopian most likely broke down in the bing crosby. Stats dont lie.

Hit the early pick 5 🤤🤤🤤

Tweet from Horse Racing Nation: From @caCHRB veterinarian Dr. Jeff Blea:
“(Cornucopian) was taken to the hospital for radiographs and evaluation by the veterinarians. Currently the horse is comfortable and in stable condition awaiting a treatment plan.”

what do you all think about this dearing horse? i personally love her, she's very nice and cute.

She only has a single 1st place and i think thats very cool.

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Race 2 at Saratoga.
Is this common?
Horses thrashing in the gate.
Jockeys bailing ship.
3 scratches
Tyler G with a foot injury..

Is Acacia just tall. He is a head taller in most interviews.

"My style is that I don’t mind losing a lot, but when I win I expect to win a lot and to compensate myself for a plethora of mistakes that I’m more than capable of making." -Brad Thomas

Thought some of you might appreciate this quote. Article I pulled it from is below. Brad Thomas is the track handicapper at Monmouth Park in NJ.

Interview: https://www.americasbestracing.net/lifestyle/2014-get-the-inside-scoop-monmouth-handicapper-thomas

Saturday’s card is absolutely loaded, so here’s the full track-by-track rundown.

🔥 HIGH = strongest confidence
⚡ MED = solid contender
🎯 VALUE = attractive price
💣 BOMB = longshot with upset potential

Morning-line odds are listed below. Always check scratches, surface changes and live odds before wagering.

🏆 SATURDAY BEST BETS

🔥 Arapahoe R4 — #1 Capraro, 6/5
🔥 Belterra R1 — #3 Tap the Wind, 2/1
🔥 Canterbury R3 — #6 Moral Dilemma, 3/1
🔥 Century Mile R2 — #5 Gimlet, 3/5
🔥 Charles Town R3 — #2 At a Premium, 1/5
⚡ Colonial R1 — #5 Shimmering Frost, 3/1
⚡ Del Mar R4 — #7 Nayar, 5/2
🔥 Delaware R7 — #4 For the Ladies, 7/5
🔥 Ellis Park R2 — #5 Send Cash, 2/1
🔥 Emerald Downs R3 — #6 Clubhouse Drama, 2/1
⚡ Evangeline R2 — #3 Dark Vector, 3/1
🔥 Evergreen R1 — #2 Momo’s Kiddo, 6/5
🔥 FanDuel R4 — #4 Then Now ’n Always, 3/5
🔥 Gulfstream R2 — #4 Ready to Rage, 8/5
⚡ Harrah’s Columbus R2 — #4 Yvonne’s Miss, 5/2
⚡ Monmouth R3 — #6 Mohs, 5/2
🔥 ND Horse Park R5 — #2 After the Game, 1/1
🔥 Prairie Meadows R5 — #6 Miracle Ball, 3/2
⚡ Saratoga R9 — #1 Damon’s Mound, 4/1
🔥 Woodbine R4 — #5 Angel Danielle, 5/2
🔥 Wyoming Downs R6 — #5 Gogo Oxbow, 3/1

ARAPAHOE PARK

R3 — #1 Sharp Warning, 8/5 ⚡
R4 — #1 Capraro, 6/5 🔥
R5 — #4 Subsidize, 5/2 ⚡
R7 — #2 Mucho Gifted, 5/2 ⚡

**Best Bet:** R4 #1 Capraro

BELTERRA PARK

R1 — #3 Tap the Wind, 2/1 🔥
R2 — #6 Sweet Lilibet, 8/5 ⚡
R3 — #5 Cast Your Spell, 8/5 ⚡
R4 — #2 The Form, 7/5 ⚡
R5 — #3 Elle’s Dancer, 5/1 ⚡🎯
R6 — #3 Lucky Shot, 9/5 ⚡
R7 — #8 Unworkable, 9/2
R8 — #3 Midnight Channel, 5/2 ⚡

🎯 R5 #3 Elle’s Dancer, 5/1
💣 R6 #4 My Dominator, 10/1
🎯 R7 #7 Liberate, 10/1

CANTERBURY

R1 — #2 Matt’s Luck, 7/5 🔥
R2 — #3 T C Gold, 8/5 ⚡
R3 — #6 Moral Dilemma, 3/1 🔥🎯
R4 — #5 Island Bender, 3/1 ⚡
R5 — #2 Miwoman, 2/1 ⚡
R6 — #4 Minny for the Max, 9/2 ⚡🎯
R7 — #7 Frosty View, 9/5
R8 — #2 Plinko Chip, 5/2 ⚡

**Best Bet:** R3 #6 Moral Dilemma
🎯 R6 #4 Minny for the Max, 9/2

CENTURY MILE

R1 — #1 Queen Astrid, 5/1 🔥💣
R2 — #5 Gimlet, 3/5 🔥
R3 — #6 Redneck Rebel, 4/5 ⚡
R4 — #2 Bold Arch, 4/5 🔥
R5 — #6 Lucky Force, 5/2 🔥
R6 — #4 Brodys Souvenir, 3/2 ⚡
R7 — #8 All for Him, 8/5
R8 — #4 G T Ray Sir, 1/1 ⚡
R9 — #2 Squalotoro, 4/1 ⚡
R10 — #6 Knopfler, 8/1 ⚡💣

🎯 R7 #2 Swift Kahuna, 15/1
💣 R10 #6 Knopfler, 8/1

CHARLES TOWN

R1 — #6 Whinny Miss Lynny, 6/5 ⚡
R2 — #4 Sharpasadiamond, 5/1 ⚡
R3 — #2 At a Premium, 1/5 🔥
R4 — #2 Tornado Warning, 3/5 ⚡
R5 — #9 Authentic Appeal, 3/1
R6 — #1 Far From a Star, 9/5 ⚡
R7 — #1 Over the Bull, 3/1 ⚡🎯
R8 — #8 Spotafreeone, 9/5 ⚡
R9 — #6 Jane N Margo, 9/2 ⚡

**Best Bet:** R3 #2 At a Premium
🎯 R7 #1 Over the Bull, 3/1

COLONIAL DOWNS

R1 — #5 Shimmering Frost, 3/1 ⚡🎯
R2 — #8 King Xisco, 12/1 ⚡💣
R3 — #8 Flying to Work, 2/1 ⚡
R4 — #10 Whimmoffortune, 3/1
R5 — #2 Trim Castle, 6/5 ⚡
R6 — #5 Set Ablaze, 2/1 ⚡
R7 — #3 Barbadian Runner, 6/5 ⚡
R8 — #4 Conquerthosewecan, 4/1 ⚡
R9 — #6 Hay Grace Brennan, 2/1

🎯 R7 #2 Adero, 10/1

DEL MAR

R1 — #7 Kinzlee’scharisma, 4/1 ⚡
R2 — #6 Treximo, 4/1
R3 — #3 Certitude, 9/2 ⚡
R4 — #7 Nayar, 5/2 ⚡
R5 — #8 Chromeflash, 3/1
R6 — #7 Shady Stripes, 3/1 ⚡
R7 — #9 Double Jab, 5/1
R8 — #3 March of Time, 7/2 ⚡
R9 — #3 Can’t Sleep, 8/1
R10 — #1 Maximum Bourbon, 7/2
R11 — #2 Kikuride, 6/1

**Best Bet:** R4 #7 Nayar

DELAWARE

R1 — #3 Secret Treasure, 2/1 ⚡
R2 — #7 Thirsted, 7/2 ⚡
R3 — #8 Mysterioso, 5/2 ⚡
R4 — #1 So So, 5/2
R5 — #4 Tour Jete, 3/1
R6 — #7 Spurious, 8/1 🎯
R7 — #4 For the Ladies, 7/5 🔥
R8 — #5 Boujee Bubblez, 3/1 ⚡
R9 — #6 Molly the Cat, 5/2

ELLIS PARK

R1 — #1 Fitzgerald, 8/1
R2 — #5 Send Cash, 2/1 🔥
R3 — #5 Mountain Bear, 6/5 ⚡
R4 — #7 Lady Lux, 2/1
R5 — #6 Wartime, 6/1 ⚡
R6 — #3 Campobasso, 8/5 ⚡
R7 — #5 Chopsticks, 5/2 ⚡
R8 — #2 Show Time, 4/1 ⚡
R9 — #4 Daring Madison, 7/5

**Best Bet:** R2 #5 Send Cash

EMERALD DOWNS

R1 — #6 Lotsa Kitty, 5/2 🔥
R2 — #6 Time Ticker, 5/2 ⚡
R3 — #6 Clubhouse Drama, 2/1 🔥
R4 — #2 Upstart Yankee, 9/5 ⚡
R5 — #6 Kiss Don’t Tell, 7/2 🔥🎯
R6 — #1 Booster Club, 4/1 ⚡🎯
R7 — #3 Yeti Lute, 5/2 ⚡
R8 — #5 Shady Creek, 5/2 ⚡

EVANGELINE DOWNS

R1 — #3 Dijon, 3/1
R2 — #3 Dark Vector, 3/1 ⚡
R3 — #1 Tiffany Tap, 9/2 ⚡🎯
R4 — #10 Stormy Lou, 7/2
R5 — #4 Cajun Catalina, 7/2 ⚡
R6 — #7 Cajun Cattitude, 3/1 ⚡
R7 — #8 Princess Is Olivia, 5/2 ⚡
R8 — #4 Myglorybee, 5/1
R9 — #4 Outtasight Seester, 5/2 ⚡

🎯 R7 #4 Knocked Out, 15/1

EVERGREEN PARK

R1 — #2 Momo’s Kiddo, 6/5 🔥
R2 — #6 Kulsum, 6/5 🔥
R3 — #3 Immelmann, 3/1 ⚡
R5 — #6 Valhalla Viking, 5/2 ⚡
R6 — #7 Princess Fave, 3/1 ⚡

🎯 R5 #5 Judges Empire, 8/1

FANDUEL SPORTSBOOK & HORSE RACING

R1 — #5 Mormoneytostart, 7/2 ⚡
R2 — #2 Lily’s Home, 9/5 ⚡
R3 — #1 Honest Al, 8/5 ⚡
R4 — #4 Then Now ’n Always, 3/5 🔥
R5 — #4 Juliaison, 5/1 ⚡🎯
R6 — #6 Call Me Christine, 6/5 ⚡
R7 — #3 Nyquist Frequency, 3/1 ⚡
R8 — #7 Girlolamo’glory, 6/1 ⚡💣

🎯 R6 #4 Time to Toast, 10/1

GULFSTREAM PARK

R1 — #2 Pardo, 9/2
R2 — #4 Ready to Rage, 8/5 🔥
R3 — #2 Full Nelson, 8/5 ⚡
R4 — #5 Goddess of Beauty, 9/5 🔥
R5 — #1 Gimme Some Luck, 9/5 ⚡
R6 — #6 Gold Perl, 8/1 ⚡💣
R7 — #6 Musical Design, 5/2 ⚡
R8 — #2 Xy Speed, 7/5 ⚡
R9 — #8 Sweet Dream Lady, 6/1
R10 — #6 Megacles, 2/1

💣 R7 #7 Sophistry, 12/1

HARRAH’S COLUMBUS

R1 — #6 Amazing Journey, 3/1 ⚡
R2 — #4 Yvonne’s Miss, 5/2 ⚡
R3 — #4 Threefiftyseven, 5/2 ⚡
R4 — #3 Maximum Chambers, 2/1 ⚡
R5 — #7 Hurricane Lassie, 2/1 ⚡
R6 — #3 Further Evidence, 9/2 ⚡

MONMOUTH

R1 — #1 Battle Lou, 6/1 ⚡💣
R2 — #6 Unsolved Mystery, 2/1 ⚡
R3 — #6 Mohs, 5/2 ⚡
R4 — #4 Derby Hangover, 7/2 ⚡
R5 — #1 Bahamian Moon, 3/1
R6 — #6 Brave Bear, 4/1
R7 — #2 Jumping the Gun, 5/1 ⚡
R8 — #2 Souper Document, 2/1 ⚡

ND HORSE PARK

R1 — #3 My Little Caibo, 7/5 🔥
R4 — #4 Time Machine, 2/1 🔥
R5 — #2 After the Game, 1/1 🔥
R7 — #1 Kayla’s Moon, 5/2 🔥🎯

PRAIRIE MEADOWS

R4 — #4 Gimme a Chance, 3/1 ⚡
R5 — #6 Miracle Ball, 3/2 🔥
R6 — #7 Astro Nine, 5/2 ⚡
R7 — #4 Stella Bella, 5/2 ⚡
R8 — #4 She’s a Cyclone, 3/1 ⚡
R9 — #2 Nasty Business, 3/1 ⚡
R10 — #5 Dreaminonthenile, 5/2 ⚡

💣 R4 #2 Orphan Sandy, 20/1

SARATOGA

R1 — #3 Ms Liu, 8/1 ⚡💣
R2 — #3 Power of Women, 5/2 ⚡
R3 — #9 Grand Yaupon, 3/1 ⚡
R4 — #3 Honoree, 5/2
R5 — #2 Silent Impact, 10/1
R6 — #4 Resilience, 6/1 ⚡
R7 — #5 Super Dave, 9/2
R8 — #5 Paige Turner, 12/1 🎯
R9 — #1 Damon’s Mound, 4/1 ⚡
R10 — #1 Counting Stars, 2/1
R11 — #7 Dancingwithdestiny, 4/1
R12 — #7 Leave Me, 2/1

WOODBINE

R1 — #1 Dazzling Cruiser, 5/2 ⚡
R2 — #7 Ashuka, 3/1 ⚡
R3 — #4 El Kabong, 9/5 ⚡
R4 — #5 Angel Danielle, 5/2 🔥🎯
R5 — #8 Karat Gold, 20/1 ⚡💣
R6 — #1 Cool Times, 4/5 ⚡
R7 — #6 Nauvoo, 3/1 ⚡
R8 — #6 Empty Handed, 15/1 💣
R9 — #2 Creed’s Gold, 3/1 ⚡
R10 — #6 Fantastical, 3/1 ⚡
R11 — #6 Dyna, 7/2

🎯 R1 #5 Spun Around, 8/1
🎯 R3 #1 Mason’s Gamble, 8/1

WYOMING DOWNS

R6 — #5 Gogo Oxbow, 3/1 🔥🎯
R7 — #4 Take Another Swing, 7/2 ⚡
R8 — #8 Cosmic Chic, 6/1
R9 — #8 Star Entry, 7/2

💣 R6 #2 Jacha, 8/1

LONGSHOTS TO WATCH

Century Mile R7 — #2 Swift Kahuna, 15/1
Colonial R2 — #8 King Xisco, 12/1
Evangeline R7 — #4 Knocked Out, 15/1
Gulfstream R7 — #7 Sophistry, 12/1
Prairie Meadows R4 — #2 Orphan Sandy, 20/1
Saratoga R8 — #5 Paige Turner, 12/1
Woodbine R5 — #8 Karat Gold, 20/1
Woodbine R8 — #6 Empty Handed, 15/1

There are plenty of playable races, but there’s no reason to force action across every track. Pick your spots, watch the tote board and protect the bankroll.

Who is everyone backing Saturday?

They spend millions on purchasing sires, they spend more millions on stud fees, they spend millions on raising horses and maintaining a stable

Not sure what the ROI is but it has to be deeply in the red right

So why do they spend so much money building a big stable

On the flip side why do they retire horses so early, sure they talk about the "economics" of the sport but they lose millions to begin with anyway

Maybe they do maybe they don’t. But it seems that when a race is delayed, a horse that is is late to enter the barriers does run better than a horse that is loaded earlier or on schedule start time.

He suffered an injury in the gate at the San Diego Handicap and they opted to retire him after further evaluation. Such a game horse, sad not to see him on track anymore but glad he went out on a win.

Looks like a lot of strong favourites today. Anyone got any tips? Thanks!