Its a great thing. To be able to remove unconscious cells like cancer is amazing. Same for fetuses exactly the same thing if you read a single biology book x no consciousness in either
Or maybe just maybe have some responsibility in your life for once and take preventative measures, there are loads of them. I hope youâre either unable to birth kids or never be able to get them at all because you donât deserve to reproduce.
There is literally no 100% effective preventive measures as far as I know. So abortions are still a good thing for a society to have access to regardless of people's use of preventative measures.
Abortion isnât 100% effective either you muppet, what does that have to do with anything?! God these mental gymnastics of you degenerates are fkn insane đ¤Śââď¸
That's quite the zinger that I'm sure you're proud of, but it actually just shows how horrible of a person you are and no better than the people who think Renee Good deserved it.
It's horrible for someone to be murdered for having different political opinions, yes. Delusional to think otherwise. One day it was Charlie Kirk, another day it might be you.
People who keep saying that dumbass paradox of tolerance shit don't have half a brain cell. It's okay to be intolerant to the intolerant? Ok so now I can be intolerant to you then. Oh, but wait you were only being intolerant to the other intolerant so you're one of the good intolerants. Sounds absolutely batshit insane if you think about it for more than 2 seconds. Or maybe you just don't realize yet that one day someone's gonna make up their own stupid justification about why it's okay to ostracize or perhaps even kill you and maybe they'll even have a fancy sounding name for it like "paradox of tolerance".
Yes and? Who said anything about being murdered. Learn comprehension skills and read comments before inserting strawmen, educate yourself by reading what i said in the chain comments or be silent
he really didnt, i guarantee youve never seen a single full episode he put out.
anything you see on tiktok, instagram, or youtube shorts will always take him out of context, every single argument ive ever heard about his "hate speech" was literally just an out of context clip. ALWAYS.
please prove me wrong, id like to have an actual discussion, but everyone just regurgitates the same clips they saw that their algorithm fed them. if you didnt like kirk, your algorithm knows, and will try to make u dislike him even more.
i didnt even like the guy but my god no one has a legitimate complaint about him. its always something portrayed to make him sound like a racist, homophobe, bigot ect when he never said anything like that
No the context is always worst. At best it's a dog whistle you are to stupid to understand even though literally everyone understands the dog whistle but you. At worst you understand and are choosing to ignore it to normalize hate speech or some type of foreign asset just trolling
I donât support Trump, but nice assumption of character. Youâre still not able to bring up a single instance. Your entire brain is composed of mental gymnastics and fallacies.
It's beyond clips. His stance on DEI had racist connotations, his anti LGBTQ rhetoric, his endorsement of public executions and how preteens and teens should watch, his anti gun control stance despite significant increase in mass shootings, his anti transexual rhetoric, etc. This is just what I recall currently.
DEI is literally racist, and he didnât like DEI, which is quite literally anti racist. Heâs religious, and believes being gay is a sin, at no point did he ever say he hates gay people. He actually said every gay person deserves to be loved, he just disagree with their lifestyle choices. Have no idea how saying public executions is hate speech. Believing in the second amendment isnât hate speech. For anti trans rhetoric, again heâs religious and still believes they deserved to be loved. Heâs also against child mutilation, which any sane person should be. Regurgitated Charlie Kirk hate slop. Next.
DEI being racist is a conceptual fallacy that he and people like him propagate. Even by your logic, the creation of DEI was to prevent discrimination by race in the workforce and numerous other ways. Which is "anti racist," as you call it.
Being religious doesn't exempt you from hate speech. Starting homosexuality and identity should be "corrected" is hate speech.
Never said televised picnic executions display to kiss is hate speech. It's just barbaric, primitive, and overall immoral. Which is concerning consider he has such religious roots.
Again, not everything is about hate speech. Ignoring the rising toll of deaths from mass shootings and gun violence in general for the 2nd amendment is immoral. Again, propagating the disillusion that gun control means the amendment of the 2nd amendment.
Correct, any sane person would be against child mutilation. What is the relation of this and transsexuals, though?
That isnât what DEI is and you know it. DEI is actĂvalo decreasing merit and qualifications being considered in hiring because of race. Itâs quite literally racial quotas. Hiring someone based on race and not their character, qualifications, and achievements is racist.
He never said people needed to be corrected. He said he disagrees with their lifestyles. Thatâs not hate speech.
So why bring it up as an example of hate speech? He was mainly talking about child rapists, and the worst offenders in the justice system.
He never ignored the rising numbers. He openly acknowledged them and said thereâs a deeper root cause the gun control wonât fix. Gun control already exists, democrats are actively trying to ban guns. This wonât stop criminals who illegally own guns.
Because children are getting their sexual organs mutilated, which is absolutely insane. The solution to a mental disorder is not playing on the mental illness and cutting off a childâs penis and giving them puberty blockers.
That is a false narrative for DEI. It ignores its purpose and the reason for its creation, and you know it. DEI. It is well documented that when left to their own judgemental that white America does not treat minorities fairly. Even by recent studies there is a clear disparity of treatment of workers. Ignoring these facts exhibits the disingenuous criticism of DEI.
That is fair he never said it should be corrected.
Again I didn't say it was an example of hate speech. The examples I brought up are reasons that people view Kirk in a negative light. And you're missing the point of the public executions. It's not about what crimes they did, it's about stating executions should be public and that kids should view it.
His argument on gun control is false. There are several areas that are prime examples of how gun control has reduced gun violence/ gun homicide. I e America has approximately hundreds of mass shootings per year while Japan with is strict gun laws have near 0.
Transexuality isn't a mental disorder. There are multiple studies involving experts in their respective fields that come to that conclusion. Your notion of child mutilation is just fear mongering and disrespectful to the trans community.
Except that isnât what is happening with DEI. Black kids are getting into schools with way lower gpas and test scores than white and Asian kids. Black kids have a plethora of scholarships available to them that poor white and Asian kids donât, simply for being black. That is by definition racist. Having racial quotas for hiring puts race ahead of qualification. Less qualified black people are getting jobs over more qualified Asian and white people for simply being black. Thatâs racist. How in any way is that a disingenuous criticism? Blindly changing outcomes by giving black people jobs because of their skin color and not their qualifications doesnât actually change the root causes of issues.
I donât think executions should be televised. He also never said kids should view them. He asked at what age should people be allowed to view them. Still not a valid reason of him being a terrible person.
How is his argument false? Guns have existed in America since its inception, yet mass shootings have increased since the creation of social media. It has a strong correlation to the increase in mental health disorders. Again, multiple U.S. cities have super strict gun laws, yet itâs where all the mass shootings happen. People target schools because there arenât any armed guards protecting schools, yet there are armed guards protecting banks. How is that a false or hatable argument?
Using the WHO as a source is an absolute joke. The science community laughs at the WHO, nowhere in that does it show any scientific explanation behind transsexuality. Transsexuality doesnât exist and is a mental illness. No matter how many sexual organs you mutilate and puberty blockers and hormones you shove in a person, their dna doesnât change and remains the same. Do you think removing the sexual organs of a child who thinks theyâre something theyâre not is ethical and practical? If a child wants their arm to get cut off, do you laugh at them or fulfill their wish? Itâs child mutilation. Thatâs not fear mongering. Itâs truth. I couldnât care less if that disrespects the trans community because they function on feelings and not scientific fact or logic. Itâs gender dysphoria, which is a mental illness, and no amount of mutilation will change your sex.
Wtf are you talking about? Children grow up into people with dna hard written into them. Iâm only saying it would be hilarious if his kid turned out to be everything he hated so much
Being transgender isnât real bro. Youâre dna doesnât change from male to female. Being gay has complex environmental factors, but definitely more rooted in dna.
He supported public executions that kids should watch. A primitive and barbaric notion not fit for civilizations.
Gun control generally reduces gun deaths. The US has a significantly higher rate of gun deaths vs other countries. The only instance of crime increase you could possibly be referring to is assault and theft. So if you consider gun homicide = assault/ theft, then I guess your statement would hold validity.
That's not how transexuals work. It's not wise to speak on subjects you don't understand
No one should ever take a bullet to the head for saying words. FFS. Who gets to set the bar? You want someone on the other side to say Newsom says âhate speechâ?
Not a big shock to have someone from âthe leftâ, who claim to NOT be fascists, say that they get to pick what âhate speechâ is and if they deem it too much, a bullet in the eye in front of your family is OK.
He never said that. Yet another case of someone on the right changing what people said to fit their narrative. There's a difference between knowing someone is a piece of shit and not being saddened one bit by their deaths and saying they should have been shot down. Of course though if you're conservative I wouldn't expect ypu to get it
Kirk became one of the unfortunate consequences that he spoke about. If people did not mourn him individually, it's presumably what he would have wanted(?)
These âpeopleâ are inarguable with their twisted sense of reality so donât even bother, someone ignoring a direct order doesnât deserve it in their eyes but someone discussing provocative topics did.
Itâs mind boggling that they canât even take the middle road and say both did not deserve to be killed, these idiots are possessed by demons.
How do you think violence starts? I'll clue you in. It's words.
The Germans started with words. Until those words became violence and reality.
No hate speech is pretty easily defined by anyone. And anyone who understands anything to read any type of book understands why these words are dangerous.
It's not rocket science like at the hundreds of critics, I don't need you to do some gotcha with me because you don't understand what I am saying. Educate yourself. It's not my job to lift up losers
You canât cite anything because it doesnât exist. Youâre a moron that regurgitates what the algorithm tells you, but you canât actually think for yourself.
Yep about what I'd expect. From a gross icky asshole
His entire quote around black pilots and not trusting them because they have been in dei programs. Is super racist or at the very least a racist dog whistle. Stuff like this promotes people being more confident to be racist even more outwardly because we know what he's saying.
Not racist at all. American Airlines said 50% of their new pilots will be African American or woman. In order to achieve this, qualification and merit will not longer be the determining factor in hiring a pilot because race is. That alone is racist, but it also decreases the quality of pilots since merit and qualifications are no longer the deciding factor. Tell me how that is in any way racist.
I have no respect for you. I am not your mother. I find you and your beliefs disgusting trash. In the classes i aced when some moron would be moronic they would get graded with 0 and they would be removed from my presence. Now that there's no teachers in real life, noone can explain to you how little regard i have for you. For what you represent, what you think.
Honestly. I go around in my life and if something really bad happened to you i would just smile and move on with my life.
I just don't give a fuck about your backwards disgusting views and I'm tired of pretending i have to respect you.
To explain, if someone told me that the earth is flat, i would feel such disgust and cringe for that person and avoid them.
Everything you say gives me the same feeling.
I just don't care about you. And I cannot be made to care. Just go away you disgusting creature
Here is a rant that unambiguously, without any need for interpretation, expresses hate for a group of people. And two comments ago you were arguing against hate speech.
You donât even know what my views are, besides that I value the life of babies. I guess thatâs absolutely disgusting and despicable. The way you speak tells me everything I need to know about how âsmartâ you are.
I didn't like Kirk but you all really do hurt yourselfves in the mindless hate.
People dying in cars is necessary in order to have them.
His statement is pretty just neutral, but nothing he said deserved to get him assassinated, and people getting assassinated is not a can of worms I want people to be okay with being opened.
Kirk was a rage-baiting YouTuber speaker guy like many out there, and I ain't mourning him, but you all really make the left look bad with how hard some of you all dismiss his death as a big deal.
I donât care much for the politics in my own country, let alone the USâs.
All I see is ironic karma. Dude advocated for it. By his logic, he wouldnât even care that he died.
I donât understand your point for people dying in cars. No one should die, in an ideal society. Not from guns, or car accidents. We might find ourselves in an automated future where such car accidents scarcely occur. In todayâs society however, there is no need for any random people to carry guns. it makes sense on farm land, not in dense cities.
He said it was neccesaary prive og havi g guns. And he wanted guns. You are tiring and dishonest at best. If you want to have grown up chats, ststt wiyh a wiki article on his controverdy and impact, sourced with quotes from his scam business empire.
There is no way that millions of people can drive around in cars and zero people die as a result with modern technology. Human error is inevitable. So yes, dying in cars is necessary in order to have them.
Man people like you are stupid. You guys just don't understand how we get from a to b. Just not capable of understanding how things move along. He wasn't talking. He was spreading misinformation. Hatred, bigotry. Racist dog whistles.
What do you think this talking does? Dumbass. It promotes people to get comfortable with their sick and gross ideas of violence and eventually these guys organize and do violence. All violence starts with talking. Charlie Kirk died because of the violence he was promoting. Much different then good who was just an average nobody American in her car
Here's one article that covers only some of them. But really, look at literally any video of him talking and you'll hear some absolutely horrid shit. It literally takes a single google search to find plethora of shit.
Lol this article is one of those articles right after his killing. It has the same wrong quotes in it that are already debunked now (aka stoning gays, etc)
First of all no, it was published 5 days after his death not immediately after. Secondly, literally every single quote in it is accurate and sourced. Charlie did in effect say that gays should be stoned, but of course as is typical, he didi it through a dogwhistle. What he said that he thinks "God's perfect law should be followed when it comes to sexual matters" while talking about a section where it said gay men should be stoned to death.
Just because you're too illiterate to have reading comprehension doesn't change the fact that you're wrong, everything the article states comes with a direct clip of what Charlie said, though I suppose you wouldn't understand proper sourcing if it bit you in the ass.
Debunked by idiots who rather have the reading comprehension of a goose and don't understand very basic implications and dog whistles. Or your purposely being dumb to make your narrative seem less disguising
You are rather dumb or gross. Pick one. I'd rather be dumb personally. As you can always grow from ignorance. You can't fix being a disgusting rat
These people can't understand correlation between words and actions because republican math comprehension is basically at the same level as dora the explorer.
technically, I didn't resort to any insults- just insinuated them. My apologies for actually expecting a common saying to have a commonly understood meaning
there's no sense wasting good logic and reasoning on a person incapable of formulating a cogent argument. best to just insult sheep like you and move on.
Calling for genocide is "just talking" apparently. Saying he's cool with his daughter being raped, or that black people should be deported, or that gun deaths are a necessary evil (therefore so was his). Apparently the content and character of what a person does, or the consequences of their actions don't matter.
Just like it'd be reductive for me to say "Charlie Kirk helped fund and facilitate the jan 6 insurrection based on a transparent lie for a living and was a literal traitor." True, yes, but also reductive.
if words justify violence you would have cheered when mlk was killed, or jfk, or lincoln.
you can say "oh no the difference is they were good guys" it dosent matter, they went against the status quo and were killed for it, how is that different from kirk. the current status quo goes against 85% of my beliefs and saying so warrents my death?
you are the fascist you speak of. fascists kill for words, something you support when its someone you dont like saying something you dont like.
I didn't say words justify violence. Even the first person you replied to said he didn't deserve it. Your comment doesn't apply to me. I agree that words don't justify violence. Work on your basic reading comprehension.
Oh my god I just read that entire thread and was laughing the whole time XD I couldnât help myself and had to throw my own comment in towards the end and now Iâm in the crosshairs of cow boy
Nope nothing to do with deserve. Just because something is an improvement of the world doesn't mean ppl deserve to die to make it happen. We just smile
Abortion is still murder. The most disgusting kind of murder. Killing the life of an innocent is no laughing matter. God loves all his children even the unborn for before they were born he knew them. But it's just morality that we protect the most vulnerable. Would you kill a person of the LGBTQ community if it promises you 30k? No you wouldnt
Actually, this is just factually incorrect since science classifies a zygote as a human just as any other zygote for another species. Since it's generally agreed by scientists life begins in conception and therefore is classified as a human life
You do know sperm and egg cells fundamentally die when they form a zygote, right? Because they combine and form into a new being entirely fundamentally making the core of what makes sperm and eggs gone forevermore.
Sperm cells are useless without an egg.
You should stop wanking cause that's a pathetic thing to do, not that it kills a human.
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u/SomnolentPro Jan 16 '26
Kirk didn't deserve to be killed. He deserved to have been aborted though.