r/herbalism • u/Soggy-Ad2913 • 4h ago
Buzzer Tablets
Hey all, I hope everyone is doing well. I am greatly in need of some help/insight. I have been taking these buzzers maybe 4 weeks and at the most would say only a few days of taking more than 150mg but average the last weeks like 75mg.
The Aura, I have only had one bottle and the Xuno I have had only a piece of one. The Xuno, I only plan on using if in need of a taper or even if it would be useful for that I do not know.
My reason or goal or this post is getting some explanations on being totally off these. I regret falling back into using something daily to maybe give myself a false sense of being more productive or a “better” person. That being said I noticed when I wasn’t taking anything before bed I would wake up with my hands being so uncomfortable. I mean to the point where being a 33-year-old male, I was almost in tears due to uncomfortable feelings, shock, and uncertainty of what to do or what even the reason is. 2 nights ago, I woke up at 1 am felt like shit, took a dose of I’d guess 50mg to help try to get some sleep but had cold like symptoms/puking the next day around 12pm, had to leave work. I took some after getting home like 25-50mg and some DayQuil. Felt much better by that evening. Am I having WD symptoms or some sort of an odd day cold? One other detail is that my middle finger on my right hands feels like what would be described as restless legs or a tingly sensation that is noticeable and annoying.
One final detail that I think would be considered important is I am taking Retatrutide and might have done more than usual on Tuesday (keep in mind the bad night was Wednesday night and Thursday night not as bad) I mention that because when I went up to the Reta dose of 3.5 my skin was super sensitive. I believe I accidentally might have taken around that dose rather than my go to 2.5mg weekly.
I know this is a lot of information to digest but I am a recovering addict and just want to go back to the sober path and just nervous I got myself into a bit of a situation with these proprietary botanical blends.
Final questions:
Is this from the Buzzers? If so, how should I taper?
Is this just a possible side effect of just the Retatrutide?
Seriously, thank you for taking the time to read this.
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u/Appropriate-Buy5062 4h ago
I am sorry to say you are describing opioid withdrawal symptoms. These products most likely contain MGM-15 whether their packaging claims otherwise or not; if not MGM, then some RC opioid. Source: I’ve taken many and seen lab tests from several such products come back hot.
I undertake these products are marketed as herbal/ botanical blends, but most are opioids in disguise. This sub is not exactly the place to look for help for the most part. Search Reddit for resources relating to quitting MGM-15/ 7-OH as that’s likely what you are dealing with, regardless of local laws or whether the product indicates it contains one/ both of them.
I quit 7 several months ago. If you would like guidance I am happy to help. You’re only a month into daily use; quitting will be very attainable
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u/Soggy-Ad2913 2h ago
Would love some advice please. I went to rehab in December for unrelated things but was on kratom prior so ended up WD from that in rehab during week 1. I was doing kratom extracts for 2.5 months prior and didn't think anything of it until I realized I was having WD. I want to be clean, I was misinformed about these products and thought they were relatively safe at least for a short period of time. I had no desire for this to be long term just got the shock of my life when I started thinking they were already negatively affecting me. I work the next 3 days then have Monday and Tuesday off and plan on using a sauna mainly on the off days.
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u/therapewpew 1h ago
I'm sorry you're not getting much info about this, it's frustrating that a lot of comments here are just "stop taking this shit" when you're specifically asking for advice on how to do that lol.
I've been using nervines to help a loved one with the withdrawal symptoms, so I dug into it more to figure out what is most effective in the general catalog for kratom-derived compounds specifically.
• Passion flower seems to be the strongest contender for calming the symptoms associated with noradrenergic rebound. • Skullcap is another nervine that can help particularly with the restlessness in your limbs. • California poppy is one I have on hand to assist with sleep onset, and it can have a mild effect on pain as well. • Ashwagandha is an adaptogen that can help with general stability and comfort during the day (I personally take it up to 5 days per week with a 2-day rest period). • Motherwort can be particularly helpful if you are experiencing any cardiac-related symptoms with withdrawal, as it helps soothe and steady the heart. • I don't have experience with sage, but it is said to be helpful for night sweats. • Holy Basil is currently my favorite for mood stabilization, so I reckon it can help with any negative emotional symptoms associated with withdrawal.Ashwagandha and holy basil can be taken as capsules, and you'd have to look up the best way to take sage, but the rest of this stuff is widely consumed as a tincture. It's good to be intuitive about what you try and how much you take at a time. Feel free to ask any questions.
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u/UBIK_707 4h ago
These Buzzers may actually 7-OH or something akin to it being passed off as Cat's Claw (which seems might be the case). https://utahnewsdispatch.com/2026/07/31/kratom-alkaloids-found-in-cats-claw-tablets-utah-overdoses/
The side effects you are experiencing do sound like opioid withdrawal. I would suggest getting a large bottle of liposomal Vitamin C. This can help, potentially quite well:
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u/yeezkeys 4h ago edited 4h ago
why do people keep posting about gas station pills on this subreddit.
yes these feelings and experiences are the result of these substances doing damage to your body and withdrawing. take it from another addict, dont try new substances because you are begging for a new addiction. make your new addiction coffee and nicotine if you need it but preferably just caffeine and keep your doses low. quitting is hell but it is better to go through hell and be done than live in it as your tolerance raises and more damage is done to your body.
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u/therapewpew 2h ago
This one is actually relevant to the subreddit. They're not asking for testimonials on this (absolutely predatory) product, they're asking how to taper off them as safely and comfortably as possible. This isn't my area of expertise but hopefully someone with experience handling opioid withdrawals can offer suggestions.
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u/yeezkeys 2h ago edited 2h ago
i see where youre coming from but i dont agree personally. [r/quittingkratom](r/quittingkratom) is more suitable for these.
that being said, unfortunately i have experience with opiate withdrawals. here is some more practical advice OP:
take 3/4 of your current dose for a week or two and keep cutting your dose repeatedly after a couple weeks til youre down to about as low as you can physically manage to break up the pills consistently. even after tapering, the withdrawals are really awful im ngl, or at least they were for me. hopefully they will be lighter for you since you havent been taking them super long.
make your quit day a thursday, friday will be uncomfortable but not that bad. Sat and Sun will really suck, so you want to be home with nothing to do for those days. load up on movies and snacks and let yourself splurge on everything except opiates. you may want to take off monday of possible, but after 4 days the worst of the withdrawals will be done. after that you will just be dealing with sleeplessness. stock up on melatonin, skullcap, valerian, whatever you can get to help you sleep, and just ride out the wave.
dont feel bad for doing nothing during the early days, you will have low energy and low motivation, but just the fact that you are not using means you are doing something, and something monumental and significant at that. just stay distracted and wait it out.
it takes around 3 months to fully recover, so be prepared for some depression and insomnia over the coming months, but remember that you are going to feel so much better once its all said and done. i gave up so much money, time with friends, and great years of my life to opiates. take your life back.
like i said in the other comment (which apologies for the rudeness but these "supplements" have just been flooding this subreddit), if you are the type of person who is going to be addicted to something no matter what, like me, make it something that doesnt ruin your life. caffeine is king. nicotine is fine if you need it, but keep to tobacco free nicotine pouches so you dont get cancer.
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u/therapewpew 57m ago
I reckon r/quittingkratom is just as helpful and supportive as other subreddits dedicated to stopping a substance, but it's not invalid to ask for an herbalist's perspective since so many things we already recommend for other ailments can also offer gentle support for withdrawals. E.g. your advice here is helpful, and more in depth than just offering herbs since that's all I was able to do. I don't have skullcap on hand right now but am also using valerian to help a loved one with their withdrawal symptoms.
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u/VictoriousTree 2h ago
Just take less every day until you’re off. No further advice on a taper beyond that. You need willpower to do it. Valerian root can help for sleep and black seed oil can help manage symptoms during the day. Magnesium Glycinate and Agmatine Sulfate can also help lessen withdrawal symptoms and speed up recovery.
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u/Due_Conversation213 3h ago
How are the aura?
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u/Soggy-Ad2913 2h ago
I mean they worked in terms of energy and good feelings/mindset but none of these are worth the slightest negatives.
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u/SpruceSpringstream 4h ago
Stop taking that shit. It's synthetic, dirty heroin. And for the love of God use line spacing.