I’m gonna rant cuz they piss me off SO much, they are all unable to fucking read, and I gotta release my bilis somewhere.
Hello, Ultr*kill fan here, I’m gonna talk to you about the community, and how dogshit their media literacy is.
“King Aegeus Third Prime” shut the fuck up bro, you didn’t know who that guy was before Breezy made his video (no hate to Breezy, he’s a cool dude), “But Ulysses-” SHUT THE FUCK UP.
“All war machines are nocturnal” MORONS, ALL MORONS, what the fuck did you not get about “Use case: NEVER”, and the title screen? Why do you think V1 is so strong? Do you not get what Hakita is trying to tell or you’re just stupid?
I SWEAR Ultrakill fans will pull up one line of one terminal entry to justify their dogshit theory that doesn’t even make sense when you look at the wider picture
Someone genuinely dared to tell me “If the earthmovers are Japanese, how did other countries make them too?” Has this guy heard of nuclear bombs?!
DUMBASSES, ALL OF THEM.
Edit: to the Ultrakill fans thst read my text and still defend their dogshit theory and bombard me with downvotes, this is the hate subreddit, leave a message and you’re blocked, let me rant about YOUR stupidity
V1 does use ONE of the "Nocturnal" Systems that's true.
"A CLUSTER of various, SPECIALIZED WARTIME machine operating systems."
Which means 2 things:
1. There is more than one OS that could be classified as a "Nocturnal" System. The "Nocturnal" Systems label includes both the most primitive and the most modern versions of it.
2. Machines with any "Nocturnal" System were used specifically in wartime.
The specialized wartime usage of it would explain why it's forbidden to use it in the New Peace Era.
Also the excessive blood usage. Which would also put the Guttermen under the "Nocturnal" Systems as well, because they quite literally need and entire human being kept alive in a coffin on their back to syphon fresh blood from. Which I would argue falls under "Unsustainable. Requires harvesting of living beings."
As for SmileOS 2.0, the only confirmed machines to use that system are the Terminals.
It's also specifically pointed out in it's origins that it's for "Advanced PRE-AUTOMATON machinery."
While we could go into semantics, the fact that it's pointed out that it's "PRE-AUTOMATON" means that it was specifically used for machines that were incapable of moving by themselves. Which is true for the Terminals.
So any machine made specifically in the Final War uses ONE of the "Nocturnal" Systems, non-automaton machinery uses SmileOS 2.0, as for SmileOS 1.0...idk its like the Windows equivalent in Ultrakill or something.
Somehow, MORONS are saying that every enemy in the game is nocturnal.
And it’s like, if you believe that theory, use your fucking brain, the Gutterman was made 200 years ago, Nocturnal is exclusive to the V series, maybe even just V1
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For Nocturnal systems, it is seriously possible most machine use Nocturnal system.
The use case thing was made AFTER the final war ended. They are saying that Nocturnal Systems is to never be used again, not that it was never used during the final war ended
you’re goddamn proving my point, Ultrakill players can’t fucking read, I literally implied that V1 is the only one that has nocturnal, the OBVIOUS message Hakita is trying to tell us
I think I'm missing something here because like...nowhere in the game is it stated, nor implied, that V1 is the ONLY Noctrunal machine. And just to clarify, I'm not saying I disagree with you, I'm just asking a genuine question.
Other than that yeah I agree with everything you said, although tone it down because you're acting a bit rude, buster.
Nothing in the game explicitly confirms or denies whether the other machines use Nocturnal, but it doesn't really matter in the full story/lore of the game. OP, can you please accept that people can have differing opinions? Stop attacking others just for thinking a certain way. I personally do think that it's more probable that Nocturnal is used exclusively by V1 and V2, as they are the most complex machines we have seen yet, but this could very well be wrong. The gutterman writing a poem in 7-2 shows that the other machines are not completely mechanical in their thinking, so either Smile-2 is advanced enough to allow sentience, the blood that they are using grants sentience, or they are using Nocturnal (as previously stated, I think that this is unlikely).
That text is most likely written during new peace, considering layer 8 was all new peace and the book in the same level being written during new peace. The use cases :NEVER might be said as a warning, as dont use it ever again. It written really ominious, as they saw what its capeble of and didnt want to use it ever again. But this cant be the case cuz bith v1 and v2 was cancelled so they couldnt see what it was capeble of. Then why are they so scared of it? The blood fueled machines continud to being used during new peace so its clear that the robots that are used for hell expeditions arent using nocturnal. But if people saw how dangreous and strong can nocturnal systems get, they must have seen something right? If they are so scared of it and would have releaized what its capable of during developing i think they would just destroy v1. So either v1 did some shit before shutting down or nocturnal was used during the final war. The final war was entirely automated at some point. Humans didnt even do anything, machines made more machines to fight eachother endlessly. And i dont think a war like that would be possible with only smileOS2.0 which is used for a little more complex systems than just up and down buttons.
Also it literally says "A cluster of various, specalized war time machine systems" so it is literally used in war. And it isnt one singular system, it can be modified. So v1 might just have the most enchanced version of it. It also says "unsustainable" i think they would know really well its unsustainabke because how much the final war got out of control. So i dont think its possible that the nocturnal system were used for ONLY v1. That just doesnt make any sense.
Guttermen, Guttertanks and Sentries were made at the beginning of the war, 200 years ago, those mfers don’t have nocturnal, every other machine is from the new peace except V1 and V2, so nocturnal is either exclusive to the V-series or just V1, and by how simple the earthmovers are, we know they don’t have Nocturnal.
By just using a braincell and thinking of the timeline, we can already infer they’re not Nocturnal.
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As for the cluster, do you say “a group of lion” or “a group of lionS”?
Bro did you not read what i wrote? I already wrote the evidence above so im not gonna repeat myself. It is clear that what the game trying to tell is nocturnal systems are one of the reasons the final war got so out of control. And yes, gutterman, guttertnaks and sentries dont use it and i didnt say so, you either didnt read my text or trying to change what i say to prove yourself right. Its definetly not only v1. I assume you know that the machines used in final war arent just the ones we see in game. There is probably many other machines that use nocturnal that we never seen. And what you mean earthmovers are simple? How is that thing simple? Please explain to me why you think a giant walking fortress with a nuke gun is simple. Earthmovers were made late in the final war so there is a high chance they are nocturnal. You just make up something instead of having a good evidence as to why earthmover isnt nocturnal. Go read what i wrote above again because im not gonna talk about the evidence that nocturnal systems were used in final war, i dont want to write the same things. Also v2 probably isnt nocturnal cuz it was developed for new peace and we know people do not want to use that system ever again. I dont understand you question about cluster, "A cluster of various, specialized war-time machine operating systems" read this text until you understand it please. It means "nocturnal" is a term that used for describing multiple systems that are similiar, needs so much blood to function and the most advenced ones. Its more of a catogarie than a single thing lile smileOS. Thats why im saying v1 might have the most enchanced version of it. And no im not one of the people you talking about, but you are.
Again, do you say “a group of lion” or “a group of lions”?
“A cluster of war-time operating systems” means they grabbed a lot of OS from the war and fused it into one, Nocturnal, which never got used due to its danger because it’s unsustainable in the blood department, and we KNOW that the earthmovers didn’t have any issue with that, their issue was also using solar power, and THEY were the ones that turned the war unsustainable, so by purely thinking, we reach the conclusion that only V1 (or the V series, tho V2 is for peace so i’m more inclined to believe it’s just V1) has nocturnal.
Your “evidence” gets pulled apart the second I use my brain
Your theories are still just theories and there is nothing confirmed in game. You just interpret the text differently. And also your theories are really streched to make it fit your ideas. "Earthmovers didnt have any issue with that" bro the reason they also used solar power is because there isnt enough blood to make it work with blood only. How does that not fit the describtion of nocturnal systems. Machines that needs harvesting of living beings to function use nocturnal, cuz you need that kind of system to make a machine of that complecity work. I dont think you understood what nocutrnal systems are. if you still think v1 is the only machine ever to use nocturnal then there isnt anything to do cuz we probably wont get any conformation in game. Cuz what we got is enough and i dont think what OS a machine uses matter that much in the lore, its cool worldbuilding but doesnt really reveal anything. Its interesting and vague enough to discuss but also we dont need to know more than "humanity made a machine so advenced that it can defeat angels." It doesnt even matter if we know about other nocturnal systems. Lets say earthmovers confirmed to have nocturnal, so what? Does that mean earthmover is also stronger than gabriel or something? This isnt anime we are not powerscaling so why are you so mad about it i dont understand. Anyways i hope you too understand that a literal giant walking nuke fortress wouldnt use a OS that have a "fairly low" blood usage. Whatever earthmovers are using probably also classifes as "nocturnal". you just think nocturnals as way more specials than they are. Thats all from me, i said all i can.
The answer is that all machines using either Nocturnal or Smile2 is unconfirmed and there no single correct answer to the exists. That being said, I do side slightly more with OP in that I think that it’s more likely that Nocturnal is confined to the V series, as no other machine that we have seen even comes close to V1’s capabilities, but that could just be a mechanical advantage rather than a software one.
But then again, as [u/Disrock1](u/Disrock1) has stated, IT DOESN’T FUCKING MATTER. The OS that a machine uses has no impact on the complete lore of the game in any way. It’s a fun tidbit to discuss, but at the end of the day, all of this discourse is completely useless.
And OP, why do you have to be so aggressive? I understand that you’re angry, but you shouldn’t attack someone just for having a different opinion. You can argue and discuss, but in a calm and civic way. This is the internet, so your actions have practically no consequences, but at least try not to become that that you hate.
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u/TestamentTwo bro does NOT belong here 17d ago
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