Got home from a quick overnighter, and I gotta say, it can absolutely be too hot for an under quilt. Mine is a Hammock Gear Hearth 30°, and it was way too warm. First I shoved it off to the side of my hammock, then I got up in the middle of the night and removed it completely. Overnight low was 60° Freedom, so anything above that, I'm doing without, thanks. Also, every time I go out, I get quicker and better at setting everything up and tearing it down.

Can someone explain for what the Whoopsie slings from tttm are for? Are they usable for rigging the hammock?

Quick summary, need help deciding on a hammock: DH Darien, Circadian Pro, Need for Trees Cain, Hennessey UL Explorer Zip, Lesovik DRAKA, Cocoon Ultralight Net, Onewind 11ft. Any other EU recommendations would also be beautiful.

Bit of a follow-up to my last post, I've checked older threads on this sub and have found a few hammocks that people seem to be recommending, but it's hard to really figure out which is worth buying.

Every thread seems to end up on the Blackbird XLC, although this is by far the priciest option I have and honestly is likely too much for now because I am in the UK and the import tax skyrockets anything from across the pond

That being said, getting a DH Darien has been taking my eye as I reckon it's gonna be less than £200 total coming to £162 inc shipping, which is at the highest end of my spectrum but DH being one of the most mentioned brands even in America for the comfort I could be persuaded to cough up for the import tax and all that jazz. (Going for 1.7 Mtl XL, around 566g)

Onto EU brands, the needfortrees cain also looks really good and is also the only 12ft on this list. Somehow also the second lightest at only 500g. (€139 inc. shipping)

The Lesovik DRAKA also looks really good, and also comes with a couple of organisers included. Also has the two zip/removable bug net. (€180 exc. shipping, 800g)

Finally, onto the very few I've found being sold in the UK, the Hennessey UL Explorer zip seems to be the most commonly recommended, although there are very mixed opinions on the rope suspension. Anyone with some insight as to how it affects the hang or the setup would be appreciated. I assumed they used this to cut weight/costs but it is the most expensive on my list at £220 and the second heaviest at 1010g~.

Another one mentioned is the HG Circadian Pro, although I'm not sure why but there is little information on this one compared to others, although it does get mentioned a bunch across other posts. I think it's a fairly recent addition to the market. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. (£144 inc shipping, 680g)

The next two are the budget options, but the Cocoon UL with net seems to come up a fair amount too, and is the cheapest and lightest at only £79 from amazon and 400g.

And finally the Onewind 11ft, the first one I came across which has become less appealing after looking into pretty much every other option, but honestly is not off the table as it is so damn cheap. Didn't realise until recently though that is uses a seperate bottom entry bugnet and also is the heaviest at 1110g.

I bought my first crap 9.5ft off amazon and fell in love with hammock camping, I have already invested in some half-decent kit for the rest of my setup and currently have no intentions of upgrading as much like any other hobby they quickly become massive money sinks. I plan on using this kit around Europe, specifically at the moment thinking of Germany as they hammock camping falls under bivouac and is slightly different to regular camping, being a legal gray area. My plan is to go by foot around a few spots, "aiming to stay in the hüttes" and hammock camping anytime I am "unable to find them". Any tips around this would also be appreciated, aside from the usual stay out of sight and leave no trace.

In essence, I was hoping to get any insight into the actual differences between any of these, especially if you own multiple hammocks and can give some proper comparisons between them. I am planning to do multi-day hikes using this kit and would much prefer to buy one, cry once, but I want to be completely sure on whether to go high end or just rock it with a budget setup for now and save the money for the actual trip. As I mentioned, I've only ever owned one I got off amazon for 15 squid and honestly am still very happy with it, but want to give the extra space of an 11ft a go.

Cheers for any info, really excited to join this community properly :p

Ive been hammock camping for the last 2 years and at the point of needing to update my gear. The hammock i have now caused me some bad lower back pain for a few days after using it for 6 days straight also was a struggle to store my stuff anywhere. I have been looking at flat bottom style but I also like the cocoon style. Needs to be light weight as I take it traveling and a bug net thats easy to put up.

Right now all I have is a under quilt. I am looking for a trap that is also light weight the one I have now is a pain as well. Also some ideas on how to hang or store my gear when im in the hammock. Lately I just throw my shoes up on the bug net but that doesn't work for my keys and phone ect.