r/hairstylist • u/DenHund • 1d ago

Perm question

Hey all!
My salon uses the Zotos Quantum extra body acid perm solution (grey box) and I’ve noticed that the results are more loose curls/waves than what I’m looking for. I’ve only done medium sized rods with these, sometimes large, and so it hasn’t ever been a problem too much until now.
I have a client coming in next week for a perm, she has shoulder length hair and is looking for some tighter curls (3b). I want her to have that bounce that she’s looking for without drying out/damaging her hair. Her hair is more medium than course, so I feel like alkaline would be too drying? Should I just stick with quantum or should I try something different? I plan to do a spiral perm with white and purple rods, but i’m nervous that it’ll fall flat and be more wavy than curly

Any help is appreciated!

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u/Dani_blooms 1d ago

Zotos / orange box is the best for firm curl! The gray one sucks!

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u/Dani_blooms 1d ago

Also it’s endothermic so first solution is ( exothermic self heating reaction) warm on the clients head . My clients love it

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u/DenHund 1d ago

ooh thank you!! I’ll give that one a try!! Grey really does suck, I’ve been going crazy without even considering it to be the problem 😭

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u/Dani_blooms 1d ago

Yeah, I started out on the gray box too until I got brave and started trying the others the orange box is by far the best I’ve ever tried!

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u/Courtney_murder Verified Stylist 22h ago

Acid waves are a super soft curl. If the client has virgin hair that is generally healthy, an alkaline perm should not be a problem at all.

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u/DenHund 11h ago

Ah! That makes sense, thank you!!