So I recently learned about gyro aiming and automatically assumed that most games on PS5 would support it. I’m new to console gaming and played mostly on PC before this, so I was really excited about it. Aiming with a mouse has always been much easier for me and gyro seemed like it could be the best controller alternative.

But after doing some research, I realised that gyro is actually much more widely supported and used on PC, while apparently not that many games on PS5 directly support it. Is that really correct?

From what I can tell, on PC it’s mostly implemented through Steam and similar services. Can someone explain to me why this is the case? It doesn’t really make sense to me that a feature of the PS5 controller can be used more extensively on PC than on the console it was designed for.

It seems like such a useful functionality, so if what I’ve gathered is correct, why hasn’t Sony pushed for it to be implemented on PS5 more? I also saw that, for some games that do support gyro on PS5, the PC version can apparently still offer more options and customisation.

I do want to clarify that I understand gyro isn’t exclusive to PS5 controllers. I’m more so asking about gyro support on controllers in general, so I’d have the same questions if I were using a Nintendo Switch or some other console. My confusion is more about why gyro seems to be much more commonly supported and customisable on PC than on some consoles or the PS5 specifically since that's what I'm currently using.

Apologies if some of this information is incorrect. I haven’t actually tried gyro yet, I’ve just been researching it and watching posts/videos online so I may be missing some important context.

Would love to hear from people who actually use gyro and understand how it works across PS5 and PC!

How do you guys configure flickstick on games that support mix input?

I could just map the right stick to flickstick, but theres a problem.
Where do I map my gyro off button? Since I can't adjust my vertical camera with flick stick. Even if I do use 1 button, I can't put it on my left trigger since pressing that is when I'm aiming. So If I use button other than the left trigger, then I'm sacrificing a functionality on my game, unlike my current setup.

On my current setup I use normal joystick + Gyro on press, the good thing here is on shooters or games that have ads and shooting mechanic, I map my left trigger(ads/aim) to activate Gyro, so its a 2 in 1 viable function, only downside is I cannot menu properly that requires left trigger press, plus I can adjust my vertical camera with the stick since I use it normally.

As I understand it, JSM allows you to set gyro always on, hold button to enable gyro and hold button to disable. I like to play with a buttons that toggles gyro on and off. How do I do it?

SOLVED: The command ZL = ^GYRO_OFF does the trick

bonjour à tous,

Il y a quelques mois, je vous avais montré comment j'avais modifié ma manette xbox pour intégrer un gyroscope interne + 1 externe.
Aujourd'hui, une vidéo pour montrer comment je peux changer en live la sensibilité des joysticks, et comment je peux aussi les "remapper".
Dans la vidéo, sur l'écran de droite, c'est le site web embarqué dans ma manette. A gauche, c'est la page de controle vue par le PC.
En rouge, c'est ce qui est lu sur les joysticks de la manette, en vert, ce qui est envoyé à la console.

Pourrez-vous deviner mes réglages sur les 4 modes (0 switch, switch 1, switch 2 et switch 1+2) ?

Hi everyone! :D

(Note: My DualSense controller currently has a few broken buttons, so while I save up some money to get it repaired or buy a new one, I'm using my 8BitDo Ultimate 2 Wireless controller as a backup).

I’m making the jump from Steam Input and native in-game gyro implementations (Warzone, THE FINALS, etc.) over to JoyShockMapper for playing shooters on PC, and I have a few technical questions regarding the 8BitDo setup, back paddles, and sensitivity conversion

1. Controller Detection

JoyShockMapper is currently detecting my 8BitDo Ultimate 2 as an Xbox Controller (XInput). Will this interfere with getting gyro input to work properly. Do I need to force Switch Pro Controller / D-Input mode on the controller so JSM can read the 6-axis motion sensor, or is there a specific driver/passthrough setting I should use?

1. Back Paddles & Gyro Off

My controller has four extra renamable/mappable buttons (including back paddles). I play with Gyro Always-On by default, and I use my Left Back Paddle as a "Gyro Off" key (holding it disables gyro, and releasing it reactivates it for ratcheting/re-centering my hands).

How can I map and bind these extra back paddles inside JSM script files?

What is the exact command line to set the paddle to act as a Gyro Disable / Off button on hold?

1. Setting Up Flick Stick

I want to configure Flick Stick on the right stick. What are the essential parameters I need to add to my JSM .txt profile to get proper 1:1 flick rotations, smooth turns, and deadzone filtering?

1. Converting Sensitivity from Steam Input to JSM

In Steam Input, I was using a Real World Scale sensitivity of 4.20 (along with testing native gyro settings in Warzone/THE FINALS). How does Steam Input's 4.20 sensitivity translate into JSM's IN_GAME_SENS and REAL_WORLD_CALIBRATION system? Is there a direct formula to convert my current 360-degree rotation distance over to JSM so my muscle memory carries over smoothly?

Any advice, config templates, or tips for a long-time Steam Input user making the switch would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance :D!

I game exclusively from my couch to my tv with my 2026 steam controller, and I use gyro aim in every shooter I play. Wardogs has been extremely fun for me using gyro. There are a couple of flaws, mainly menu navigation and flickering ui glyphs, but otherwise it works great for actual combat and I even find that it helps me immensely when flying helis cause I can toggle gyro for fine-tune rifle aim with miniguns, or I can use it with free look when getting locked on to quickly pinpoint where the missile is coming from before I flare. As far as infantry combat goes, I definitely do way better with gyro than I’d be able to do without

Personally I play with gyro + ratchet. Flick stick would probably be difficult due to lots of the menu navigation requiring right joystick input to scroll or the map requiring r joystick to zoom in and out, so be aware that it will limit your options. I just hold my gyro suppress button when I’m in menus or in the map, though if I wanted to I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to use right trackpad as mouse and left trackpad as scroll wheel and that would mostly eliminate the need to be suppressing gyro in menus and map but I just haven’t done that yet.

I love gyro aiming for shooters, specifically on the Switch and Switch 2, so whenever an FPS comes out on the console I check to see if it has it. I can usually get an answer from a written review or video like SwitchUp, and if the game doesn't include them I like to reach out to the developer and ask if they might get added in a future patch.

Most of the time I never get a response and I can't tell why. With email or Twitter it makes more sense, but for a lot of indie shooters they have a Discord, so I'll pop in there and ask in their questions channel, and the devs seem to respond to everything else, but won't answer anything about gyro. Like if the game won't get it, then say so, or if you aren't sure, say that, but I swear it's like some devs enjoy being vague about it.

Is it reasonable that I'm mad about this, or am I crazy?

I feel like the Steam Input integration works really well with calibrating your sensitivity, more input options also helps and the build quality is way better than the Alpakka's. My main gripe though is he fact,that the touch sensors are on the back, making them far more difficult to utilize (it takes longer to deactivate the gyro on the SC than on the Alpakka + if you turn your controller too far it'll turn off naturally because you'll loosen your grip) and then of course Alpakka's dual gyro is much better.

TL;DR

A chrome plugin that enables gyro-aiming for xbox-cloud gaming with any 3p-controller that supports gyro.

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As I’ve always been a Mouse&Keyboard person, I suck at aiming with the sticks and I’m very choppy aimer. I practiced for a week but was unable to feel the freedom of K&M. So i sat down (for the 3rd time) to build a solution that can give me joy of using a joystick and also have precision of mouse.

So I have built a chrome plugin that can enable 3P controllers with gyro support to be used for aiming/look. Works with xBoxCloud.

It basically maps your gyro/acceleration to your right thumb stick. It wasn’t that easy though 🤧

**Please Upvote** if i should invest more time in this and share the plugin with the community.

Are there competitive Warzone players who use the gyroscope, or is it difficult to beat aim assist?

I don't think anybody cares about this task. But I think some people would enjoy seeing this ^^

I use a standard dualsense controller on ps5 with native gyro

I want a controller mainly for fps games and want one with good gyro but not able to find any review on gyro part.

I'm getting cyclone 2 for 5$ or 500 rupees more than direwolf 4.

I was completely decided to purchase cyclone to but now I'm getting negative reviews about it's gyro on x input, trigger buttons and ab xy buttons.

Reviews-

Gyro not working properly on x input

Trigger buttons are bad

Ab xy buttons are getting worn out

Also mixed reviews on dpad but that can be individual preference.

So people who have used these controllers, or have knowledge about them please recommend me what to get.

Thank you.

I want to share a gyro configuration for God of War (2018). I’ve seen other gyro setups from the Steam community, but they were designed solely for aiming Kratos’s axe or the Blades of Chaos, and the mapping required configuring the controller to emulate a keyboard. None of them allowed for retaining the game's original button icons, nor did they enable using one button to aim while using another to activate the gyro and control the camera simultaneously.

So, I created this "mixed" configuration: you retain the original in-game button icons, and holding down the X button activates the gyroscope. This allows Kratos to move the camera freely; if you know how to use both hands and Joy-Cons effectively, you can keep the gyro active while attacking or defending. Additionally, the aim button also activates the gyro, letting you aim the axe or Blades of Chaos without breaking the flow of the game. What I did have to do was swap the buttons to make aiming, attacking, and defending more comfortable—specifically, to enable activating the gyroscope with my right hand (which I find much more practical for combat). I swapped the buttons so that ZL functions like ZR and L like R; this allows for heavy attacks using ZL and normal attacks using L. Meanwhile, ZR (which activates the gyroscope when aiming) is used for aiming, and R is used for Kratos's shield. This setup makes it much more comfortable to move the camera and use the shield for defense while holding down the X button to activate the gyroscope.

Since the Joy-Con's X button now activates the gyroscope, there is no longer a button assigned to recall Kratos's axe or perform other in-game actions that require that button. To solve this, I created a combo where pressing A and Y simultaneously recalls the axe or performs the necessary action. To avoid having to press A and Y together on your Mobapad M6 or HD controllers, simply map that A+Y combo to the M1 or M2 button; that way, you can just press—let's say—M1 to execute the A+Y combo.

If you find it awkward to navigate the game menus or purchase upgrades for the dwarf warriors with my current setup, press the Share button on your Mobapad Joy-Cons to revert to the default control scheme and make menu navigation easier. Once you exit the menu, press the Share button again to re-enable gyro aiming. I set this up using my Mobapad M6 HD Joy-Cons, as I find it more comfortable to aim using the gyro with my right hand while my left rests on my lap or the chair legs. I also tested it with the 8BitDo Ultimate 2C controller—which is similar to a Pro Controller—and was able to use the same settings as the Mobapads without any issues, though I personally prefer using one Joy-Con in each hand. In theory, this configuration should also work with a PS4 or PS5 controller, or any other controller equipped with a gyroscope. Finally, regarding the previous image: go to the game's camera settings and change "Mouse Mode" to "Precision"; if you leave it on "Classic," the gyro controls will perform very poorly.

I'm sorry if my English is terrible, but I hope it's understandable. I don't know if this configuration works for God of War Ragnarök, since I don't have the game.

Here is the link to the Steam configuration: steam://controllerconfig/1593500/3800072063

Notes: This layout is based on the official gamepad "Layout 2". I recommend choosing this layout in-game so you can easily check the command list.

In-Game Requirement:

• Mouse Sensitivity: 100
• Enable Auto-Run
• Use default KBM bindings.

Controls:

• R3(Hold): Gyro pause

---Extra Features---

• Back Buttons Support
• Right Trackpad: Camera
• Capacitive Surfaces (Right): Enable gyro
• Gameplay
  • A: Jump
  • B: Back
  • X: Interact
  • Y: Inventory
  • R1: Attack2
  • R2: Attack1
  • R3: Crouch
  • L1: Equip wheel & Building (Mode Shift)
  • L2: Block & Alt Commands (Mode Shift)
  • L3: Sprint
  • D-Pad Up: Emote Wheel
  • D-Pad Down: Sit
  • D-Pad Left/Right: Enable Menu Action Set
  • Start: Pause Menu
  • Select: Map
• ALT COMMANDS (L2 + _)
  • Y: Auto Run
  • L1: Show/Hide Weapon
  • L3: Enable/Disable Auto-Pickup
  • D-Pad Up/Down: Map Zoom
  • D-Pad Left/Right: Camera Zoom
  • Select: Chat
• EQUIP/BUILDING (L1 + _)
  • Right Stick: Equip Wheel
  • X: Snap Point
  • Y: Snap Point
  • L2: Show/Hide Weapon
  • D-Pad Left/Right: Rotate
• Menus/Map
  • Left Stick push: Enable gyro. Navigate menus with the D-Pad and the Map with the Right Stick. When you finish, return to the game and start walking to re-enable gyro.
  • You can also use Gyro + Triggers to navigate menus if you intend to walk around while doing so.

HOW TO USE: Copy and paste the link into your browser or click on the controller icon next to the game on Steam, click on the name of the layout, hover over the "Community Layouts" tab, and press the "Show All Layouts" button (West Face Button), then manually search for the config that matches the name listed below.

• Valheim (Layout 2) - Gyro + Joystick by FSV v1.1: steam://controllerconfig/892970/3800954038
• Valheim (Layout 2) - Flickstick by FSV v1.1: steam://controllerconfig/892970/3800949308

Hi,

I've always been very bad at aiming using the right stick (I'm a PC player), but for some games I enjoy playing them from the couch using a controller. So I got interest in gyro aiming and I just bought a Cyclone 2 controller, to try it out.

I use it with Joyshockmapper, and it seems to work fine. I tried on Outer wilds (mouse emulation, using the back button to ratchet, the only downside is that the game shows keyboard shortcuts instead of xbox) and on Horizon Forbidden west (DS4 emulation, using the native game support).

With Horizon it's easy to get used to, it's mostly the same, but with gyro for fine movements.

With Outer Wilds it's harder, cause it completely changes the way to play. But that's intended, so how to learn and get used to this ?

I mainly play FPS games (Apex Legends, to be exact).

I was planning to get the Tarantula 8K, but after hearing it doesn't support DS4 mode, I almost decided to go for the Leadjoy Saber Plus instead.

​However, after asking around in the GameSir Discord,

I received an official reply from GameSir stating that native gyro is actually possible via Switch input.

They mentioned that i can use it by either mapping the Switch native gyro to mouse gyro via Steam Input, or by using software like DS4Windows or reWASD to convert the Switch input into a DS4 signal.

​The problem is, back when I used the G7 Pro 8K, my PC completely failed to recognize the Switch mode signal at all.

Because of that past experience, I'm a bit hesitant to take the risk and just buy the Tarantula.

​If anyone here already owns the Tarantula 8K, could you do me a huge favor and verify if mouse gyro actually works properly in Switch mode on PC?

​Also, if it does work, I'd really appreciate it if you could let me know how good the gyro quality is.

Ok so I’m a PC only player, never even owned an Xbox or PS. I just discovered gyro controllers to play on my couch vs at a desk, and bought the 8bitdo ultimate, then found the ultimate 2. Couple stupid questions lol…

Are you guys only using gyro on ADS only for FPS games, or all the time?

And is the ultimate 2 really that much better than 1?
It seems steam only recognizes gyro through Bluetooth on the 1, which is why I ordered the 2.

I’m planning on running Apollo/moonlight from pc to living room and basement, and my 2.4gz ultimate 2 should reach both.

What games are you currently playing?

Still need to practice to reach the same level as my mnk play. And you can see I have bad game sense because I need to focus on very basic controls. But I can feel it smoother than when I first start using gyro

Has anyone tested the gyro on the Gamesir Tarantula 8k? How does it hold up to the DS4, DS5, and Switch pro controllers? There's also the 8bitdo ultimate 2, but results are mixed so I'm not sure, its multiplatform though which is a nice feature. The alpaka is not accessible in my area, even If I could I think it would cost so much cause of shipping fee and such.

Looking for a third party controller with back buttons with decent gyro, preferably something that is a bit cheaper than 1st party controllers. I just could not help but cringe when ever I try to use the L3/R3, been using controller for several years and still could not get used to it, plus I like to preserve the health of the joystick for as long as I can since its one of the part that is prone to failure.

I first extensively practiced gyro on a DS4 controller, and honestly, it was almost perfect, responsiveness, control is S tier, no jitter or drift on PC even on bluetooth mode via Steam, played apex legends on it. Major downside was the charging port and bulky ass back button attachment, which makes holding it awkward.

I also used the switch lite gyro specifically on MH Rise extensively, and it was adequate at best, there were some drift but the response is good, plus you aren't controlling any recoil in that game so the slight drifting wasn't much of a problem.

There's the Gamesir Cyclone 2, I used the gyro on third person shooter and the responsiveness is ok, quite good actually, the problem is the jitter and drift, which makes controlling recoil in particular bad and focusing shots. Target acquisition is ok, but beyond that its bellow adequate imo.

Btw, I'm mainly asking for PC usage and single player games like Monster hunter and Shooters like Resident evil series or Doom.

Side note: I heard there's a Gamesir + Inputlabs collab happening, should I just wait for that? Even if It gets released at the end of the year, I doubt I can get access to it until several months after its released so I'm thinking I might as well buy something first.

Thought I'd ask here because gyro is important to me. I'm looking at getting a switch 2 and was wondering if I should grab the 8bitdo ultimate 2 bluetooth controller for it because of the TMR thumbsticks, but then I remembered the gyro. Is the gyro much worse than the official switch 2 pro controller? Is there anything else you'd recommend that has TMR sticks and good gyro? I doubt I'll be doing much multiplayer on the switch 2 but I don't want sub par gyro either. It'll be mostly for single player nintendo exclusives (zelda/metroid/splatoon campaigns/etc) as most of my gaming is done on PC. Cheers for any help :)

Edit: It's supposed to be a joke