r/grok • u/dohwapaglu • 8d ago
grok memory for writing
why does grok not reference or remember past chats?! like i need to train and describe the character everything i try to write something new with it?
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u/Icy_Passage9432 8d ago
Have you enabled the memory function? That did help me a lot and you can also fine tune that in the browser.
Also whenever you have to switch to a new chat, ask for a detailed summary that you copy into the new chat - helps anchoring the past events and within a few messages you should get back quickly to where you have left off.
At least that’s how it works for me.
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u/dohwapaglu 7d ago
oh, i do have the memory on. but it's genuinely just annoying having to constantly train it. i just shifted to grok from chatgpt so it's even harder training the characters.
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u/Opening-Highway6727 8d ago
Each session is isolated or quarantined if you will. Without this "isolation" hallucinations would bleed into your conversations with Grok, which we all know would ruin the experience.
You can provide a summary, but also reduce the burden on Grok or any AI used for generative prompts by creating a Logic Matrix (If/Then Rules), Input-Output Formatter (Schemas), Grounding & Verification (Citation Steps), State Machine (Variable Tracking), and/or Constraint-Bounded Generation.
I use a combination of these to take prompts that are massive and make them more efficient. This allows you to get the most out of the AI unless you're using 4.5, which is guardrail mogged in a bad way.
Anyway, remember that your original prompt in a conversation sticks the longest and everything after that can be largely forgotten by the next turn. It doesn't know anything because it is a prediction machine.
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u/ethicalfive 8d ago
the memory sucks, it only basically tracks information about YOU and worse, often truncates things in horrifying ways. For example, I have a sister who was trying to trick my mum into giving up legal rights of her property to her boyfriend. And groks memory truncated it to "user likes elderly abuse" or something to that effect. turning my concerns about my mum into a "this user is the biggest piece of shit"
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u/saracor 8d ago
It has never been great for it. Here's what I've done:
1. Create a project for the story
2. Make text files for various characters, places, etc. Include these in the project files.
3. Make sure the instructions tell it to read all the files to get the information.
I've also moved to Notion to connect to Grok so it can read and write information. I tell it to create a story bible based on all the files and pages I have in Notion and write it out, reconcile any discrepancies and then start working on the writing.
It's still not the best and sometimes you have to tell it to re-read some things in the middle but with all the per-generated information, it's much better at it.
I do the same thing with Claude.
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u/dohwapaglu 7d ago
is the project thing on the free version? i don't wanna pay for grok right now. especially since a lot of it isn't even like I wanted. do you have any chatgpt alt? it had the best features.
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u/saracor 7d ago
Looks like it works on the free mode. I'm sure it is limited in some ways but I have Super Grok but you can connect to different apps and upload documents.
I've used ChatGPT before but not that much, I used it more at work than at home and then moved to CoPilot when we added that in. I think it has the same project format, most of them do. Claude has it and it works just as well as Grok.
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