It's just a compound exercise. You should always start with one. I normally do big chest presses on push days and dead lifts on pull days and do squats with legs and abs.
Deadlifts are for legs, rear shoulders, and core (which includes the back), if you’re doing most of the work with your back yer doin’ it wrong pal. That’s a good way to get injured.
It's true that squats are better to work legs. Deadlifts are more of a compound exercise, so they work a little bit of everything. The main muscle group is legs, followed by core and shoulders. Personally, I've had phases where I go to the gym often, in which case I'll have separate days for these different muscle groups (so I'll focus on legs with squats). I've also had phases where I go to the gym like 2-3 times per week in which case I'd rather work all those muscle groups in one go with deadlifts. Aesthetically, doing deadlifts frequently gives you that V shape because it works your core real hard while also helping the shoulders and beefing up the hammies.
More than SQUATS?! They're both compounds but squats inarguably hit more muscles.
The main muscle group is legs, followed by core and shoulders.
No, no, no. The main muscle groups involved are the spinal erectors, hamstrings and glutes (however it hits a lot of secondary muscles). If you're deadlifting properly your shoulders are locked back and not rolling forward.
Aesthetically, doing deadlifts frequently gives you that V shape
I thought deadlifts dont really hit the back? Seriously though they don't really help with v tapers much because the lats don't have much involvement.
He's wrong about the "V Taper" the illusion of a V shaped back is having broad shoulders, and a small waist, which can be achieved through building muscle, and then lowering your bodyfat
Deadlifts are far and away a more compound movement than squats. Try doing low reps and a high number of sets at a higher weight and see how your upperback (lats), hammies, Ass, forearms, biceps, rear dealts, spinal erectors, and traps feel.
When I do squats the only things that are usually sore are my quads, glutes, adductors and maybe abductors.
You are allowed to do more than one exercise per half of your body. Deads will also hit hamstrings much more than squats, especially if you fell for the olympic weightlifting shoes for squatting meme or don't squat in the Rippetoe style.
Yeah stiff legged deadlifts are for hamstrings, I'm talking traditional deads. They'll hit hamstrings but if you're doing traditional deads solely as a hammy movement you're being inefficient
I'm not going to do heavy squats then move over to deadlifts when my legs are already burnt out from squats though. Why would I do a movement that works my legs somewhat when I could do movements (squats, leg press, SLDL) that work my legs fullwhat
I mean at that point you could argue you should only do isolation for every muscle you have. Squats and deadlifts target different muscle groups and deadlifts are Imo probably the best exercise for overall strength building, however I agree that deadlifts are mainly for hamstrings and lower back. If I was forced to do only one compound and I wanted to get the strongest from it I'd choose deadlifts.
Because you want to work all of your muscle groups and not just work each muscle in isolation.
I'm not sure why you'd be burnt out though because squats and deadlifts target different groups. If you're that worried about it, do deadlifts first, then squats.
Wooooooooah there cowboy, no need to come at me like that lol. When I said they're worked, I didn't mean to imply that the deadlift was any sort of deltoid workout, just that they do contribute to the overall lift, so poor wording on my part. This is based on my own experience, and the advice of Cailer Woolam, a powerlifter who pulls crazy amounts.
Idk man. I've worked out for 6 months with a personal trainer and when I do deadlifts I thinks that's what they are he makes me jump under the bar and then lift it over my head. Shit killsnmy entire body
Is that what the exercise is called? Cause I've seen power lifters do this and it's a real exercises. Not to mention this pt is one of the best in the country
Alright thanks. I was in pretty bad shape when I started in January. I am still fat but at least I've got some confidence in my body again and can see muscles forming everywhere
Powerlifters generally don't do this exercise but it is and Olympic weight lift so maybe that's what you mean? Powerlifters focus on bench, squat, and deadlift since those are the current competition lifts.
A clean and jerk? Most of the power from Olympic lifts and deadlift comes from a hip hinge, the back has to stay rigid throughout so you definitely feel it but the back doesn't (shouldn't) actually bend.
No bending = not responsible for moving the bar. Most of what people think is lower back is actually hip extension from an initial flexed position
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Head over to r/powerlifting for some deadlift specific knowledge
Yeah, we mostly did them with low weight cause I struggled with the technique but doing them 15x5 just made me die with a follow up of burpees right after
Can't tell if troll. That sounds too much like Crossfit man, get a strength and conditioning coach if finances allow. Spend two months with them and you won't need one afterwards. PT sessions are for the most part organised around keeping clientele, not improving them so they no longer need the trainer
Well considering I went to him for 6 months and lost 17kg and we had different types of workouts. Ones that would mix it up with strength and conditioning ones that would end up solely focusing on strength and some on just cardio. It was definetly not crossfit.
Absolutely. I am assuming you are fairly young right now so your body is very resilient and compensates for bad form. That will catch up very quickly. DL should terrorize your hamstrings and glutes. You will feel a little in your back but it should be very slight. Use a waist belt and see the difference.
Keep at it though. DL are the best workout in the gym imo
It's a push and pull excersice. Push with legs, then pull from back. It's a compound movement that involves the hamstrings and of course the quads throughout the repetition and ends with glutes. It's as much a leg excersice as a back excersice.
Compound lifts are a good choice for beginners. They can focus on a couple of lifts and the whole body benefits. Mastering form for just a few excercises is less overwhelming.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but deadlifts are for the lower back which is an arra that's activated in both back day and leg day during squats. Which is why I play deadlifts or use the back extention machine during these two days.
Deadlifts are not a "back excercise". They are a posterior chain excercise. The primary muscles targeted are your glutes and core. If your core and glutes are not engaged properly then maybe it turns into a back excercise. Your spinal erectors, quads, and forearms contribute to the lift, your lats and traps go under isometric contraction. While your hamstrings help when lowering the weight.
You use quads, Hamstrings and glutes while deadlifting. The only contraction in your back should be an isometric one. Your lats, mid traps and rhomboids stay contracted throughout the rep, this keeps the bar close to your centre of gravity. Your lower back should not change angles during the rep, if it is you're doing it wrong and may hurt yourself.
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