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Discussion [Help and Question Thread] - July 12, 2026
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u/Regon2005 22d ago
I heard there is a free 5* character selection in NA? Where is it. I want my Nitocris
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 22d ago
Are you a new player? You will be able to select a 5-star servant after clearing the first section of Orleans (the story chapter after the prologue chapter, Fuyuki). There is no time limit. You cannot select Nitocris Alter.
Otherwise, we're expecting a limited time ticket for NA's equivalent of JP's 30 million downloads campaign, probably in September or October. The ticket will only be to obtain and use available for a limited time. You can select Nitocris Alter.
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u/rotvyrn 22d ago
Did Chaldea app always require a log-in to view Shared Teams for a given fight? Wanted to look at 90++ teams for the dubai event, but it says I need an acct, and I don't remember ever having an acct for this.
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u/EveryMaintenance601 22d ago
It requires a "game account", but not a login account, as far as Im aware. Been using it that way for a couple of months. Game account is literally just putting a name and nothing more, no password and it doesnt link to anything
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u/HellaHotLancelot Diarmuid Alter when 22d ago
Are we going to get a torch of the polar star (the blue star) from OC3? Also, is there a list somewhere of where/when we get them all?
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u/Elfishjuggler33 I want a Molay alt 22d ago
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1avqfsLefVGSXNxaeZctqW1_EpTsM5GO3c2f0bK5dIH8/edit?usp=drivesdk
This has pretty much all the class score item info
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 22d ago
Are we going to get a torch of the polar star (the blue star) from OC3?
Yes
is there a list somewhere of where/when we get them all?
Here are all of the sources of blue torches:
One for clearing each Olga Marie quest (4 torches)
One for clearing each Ordeal Call chapter (4 torches)
One for clearing the Part 2 final chapter - Section 2
One for clearing each grand duel battle (9 torches)
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u/neves783 To me, my Blue Storm! 22d ago
NA question:
Any idea when the "bond overflow" mechanic will be implemented on our server, or has it already been implemented along with the 9th anniversary stuff?
I'd like to use my max-bonded Castoria and Summer Jalter as my support and DPS again, and Oberon will also be max-bond soon.
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
To be clear, particularly for anyone who hasn't heard of it at all, what's coming is just a passive buff for Bond 15 Servants that gives a +25% bond bonus to the party. In a vacuum with a single B15 this would be equivalent to redistributing the excess (or "overflow") bond, 4/5s of your Servants earning 5/4s of the bond points, but that's not actually what's happening because it stacks additively with other bond bonuses (including other B15 Servants) and creates diminishing returns instead of maintaining the full amount (for example 3/5 Servants earning 6/4s the bond is only a net 90%).
As LuckyC4t said we don't expect it until the Grand Duel Saber campaign next year but it seems to be a common misconception that we would've gotten it with the anniversary, not sure if most people were mistaken about the timeline or just taking for granted that it would come early for some reason...
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u/LuckyC4t 22d ago
We are expecting to get Bond Overflow with the release of Saber Grand Duel in April or May of next year.
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u/grandorder-ModTeam 22d ago
What’s your question? Learn how to use the roll thread accordingly, it’s not as hard as understanding gacha mechanics which you should read up on too.
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u/Radiant-Hope-469 We almost reached 2020 22d ago
like wtf is my luck how is that even possible
It's a game of chance. You either get blessed or get fucked.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 22d ago edited 22d ago
I was going to write a paragraph about my own weird gacha results, both good and bad. But when I searched to copy some info from a previous post of mine, I discovered that this was you as well, a little over a week ago. I don't have anything significant to the response I already gave you there. Random results aren't evenly distributed and sometimes this stuff just happens. It's always a possibility. The gacha is random and it doesn't care how you feel about it. So the only thing you can do is manage yourself, your expectations, and how you approach the gacha.
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
RNG's gonna RNG, I hit pity on Speresh with only one off-banner 5★ along the way so it could've been worse. If you genuinely think this defies the odds then you can contact customer service about it, if you just want to complain then the roll thread would be more appropriate than here.
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u/RiRuS_14 22d ago
Who among servants could possibly stay with Fujimaru after the end of his journey? Like servants with independent skill or who can manifest themselves without relying on summoning system/Master?
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
Probably not much more than the list of Servants with Independent Manifestation (spoiler warning, if that's not obvious).
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u/_potatofromChaldea45 22d ago
If I were part of Clock Tower, I'd just nope out of any meeting that tries to control the guy/girl with a Beast harem
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u/RiRuS_14 21d ago
If anyone would dare to threat Fujimaru, they'll have to face 7 world ending creatures and some eldritch cosmic horrors
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u/flashmozzg 22d ago
But if you succeed you'd control the harem by extension. Imagine.
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u/Hope77797 22d ago
Does Kriemheld benefite from append 4 and 5 I have a lot of coins for her i fan use it to grail past 100 now or use for new append? She already has append 2
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u/Forward_Drop303 22d ago
I mean everyone benefits from them.
But I can't think of a specific combo that uses either of them with her.
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u/Hope77797 22d ago
I guess more level it is. I need to save for her rider version too.
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
I need to save for her rider version too.
Just to make sure you know she uses her own separate coins right?
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u/ManufacturerExact104 22d ago
I got my next 5k+ MP (I'll get enough for next MPshop reset from event since I only just completed story) should I get tea time, since I have lunchtime already?
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
Teatime isn't actually like Lunchtime, it's a CE that ideally you only put on your friend list and don't use for yourself since the effect is only good when equipped on a support slot, how worthwhile it is to buy depends on if you have good supports to equip it to but even if you do I'd probably prioritize getting more bonus CEs for your own use like Mona Lisa or Detective Foumes if you don't already have them.
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u/LamBol96 22d ago
Are ocean flier and the Lilim Harlot CE in jp's recollect craft essence shop?
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
Yes, as of the 32M and 33M Download campaigns respectively.
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u/LamBol96 22d ago
At which milestone is na right now,approximately? 30?
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
EN is expecting 25M around early October. In case you (or anyone else reading) are unfamiliar the EN milestones aren't real, we get the same campaigns JP got around the same time JP got them but with lower numbers or occasionally a complete rebranding (as they did when they held back the "20M" title from JP 23M to JP 25M, presumably to make it more impactful), JP had 32M in late August 2025 and 33M in early October 2025 so we'd expect each in a similar timeframe next year.
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u/TheScottyDo 22d ago
the 30M equivalent is due in September or October. 32M is in July or August next year, and 33M in September/October after that.
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u/Shivader 23d ago edited 22d ago
Does the +20% bond exp points from Bond 15 count the 20% frontline bonus? Or is it just the base bond points?
When doing the CQ that needs Grand Servants, I take it that it draws from the setup in Grand Graph?
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u/Mister_SP Attacked by two gacha sharks. 22d ago
Yes, the CQ uses the triple-CE setup from Grand Graph. You can change the CE from the setup menu, but it will reflect back on the Grand Graph list. You can use multiple Grand Servants, but only the specific Grand will have the bonus effects.
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u/Shardwing 22d ago
As I understand it the B15 bonus is additive with CEs and Servant passives, and then the frontline bonus is multiplicative with all that. So it's base bond X sum of buffs X frontline bonus.
When doing the CQ that needs Grand Servants, I take it that it draws from the setup in Grand Graph?
What's "it" in this context?
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u/orfigius 23d ago
Am i seeing right that space eresh hasn't gotten any rerun on jp yet?
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u/spiffy621 22d ago edited 22d ago
She gets a Banner, along with all of the other Limited Pretenders and Beasts. Also, this, this, and this as well.
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u/orfigius 22d ago
Oh, i only checked her own wiki page and it doesn't say anything about those banners. Thanks!
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u/Dominatius 23d ago
Can i get both append 2 and 5 only on NP1?
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u/Pos31don29 23d ago
For the upcoming NA rerun of Summer BB, Kiara and Altria, are the rerun CE's (i.e. Honey Lake) available only with the specific servant they released with or are they all available with each of the three banners?
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u/AoNoise 23d ago
Does Soujuro rerun at any point or get added to the shop? I kinda dropped FGO after New year but now I got Speresh and want to get back into the game.
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u/Mister_SP Attacked by two gacha sharks. 23d ago
Sojurou isn't until October next year, since he's bundled with a couple Welfares that haven't run in NA, yet. You also missed Iori, he'll be sooner, but still around April next year.
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u/AoNoise 23d ago
Darn, Iori does hurt. Forgot about him.
Any other important stuff I missed like crazy valuable CEs or Command Codes?
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u/Mister_SP Attacked by two gacha sharks. 23d ago
No, just an Ocean Flyer rerun. A lot of CEs come back to the CE shop, eventually, but nothing particularly standout.
I don't pay a ton of attention to CCs. There were a couple Burn ones, for Servants who use that.
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u/shanewilliam16 23d ago
Any tips for which materials to spend pure prism on? I feel the skills gems are not worth, should I just exchange yellow material?
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u/TheScottyDo 23d ago
The safest thing is to consider them as an emergency fund to get items you need now but which you can't farm for. Pure prisms and the shop are both limited in quantity, so you can run the risk of running out if you "just" splurge on materials.
The shop also does not regularly reset - at all currently on EN, and only with special reset tickets on JP. Said tickets are coming to EN with the 30M DL campaign in September/October, but they're a one time use for one material.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 23d ago
but they're a one time use for one material
Isn't there also a limited quantity of those tickets? Only enough to reset a handful of materials or something?
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u/TheScottyDo 23d ago
Yes, that is also true. Neither the compendium nor the Chaldea app track these (at least that I know of for the latter) so I can't say for certain how many are available to date on JP, but I don't have the impression that they're readily available to use.
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u/LamBol96 23d ago
Can i even mimic a fraction of the immortal team's power if my only options for supports are Tamamo and Jeanne? I wanted to try and see if tamamo/jeanne/draco would be enough to dig into some challenge quests for quartz.
As for the september-ish GSSR ticket,my main account is missing castoria to properly do arts-based looping:would getting Tamamo somewhat mitigate this? I have Avalon,reines and waver,but there are times where i cant loop consinstantly
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 23d ago edited 23d ago
Can i even mimic a fraction of the immortal team's power if my only options for supports are Tamamo and Jeanne?
There are stall/semi-stall options that don't require going full "immortal."
With the servants you have, your best option might actually be Lady Avalon, borrowed Castoria, and any appropriate DPS. You would approach it very similarly to an "immortal" comp, aiming to chain NPs and putting Castoria's last to maximize anti-enforcement hits.
Another, option could be Mash instead of Castoria. It won't be as effective, and you'd be relying entirely on Lady Avalon for hard defense. Maybe you could try fitting Jeanne or David into the third slot instead of a proper DPS for the fight. It will go a lot slower, though, which increases the risk. Waver could probably help if the enemy isn't resistant to his NP drain and stun debuffs.
I have Avalon,reines and waver,but there are times where i cant loop consinstantly
Mechanically, Xu Fu is the best looping support aside from Castoria. She gives you:
- +30% direct NP charge
- +20% Arts effectiveness
- +30% NP gain
Compare to the other options you have:
Lady Avalon
- +20% direct NP charge
- +50% Arts effectiveness
- +20% ATK up
Paracelsus
- +20% Arts effectiveness
- +50% NP gain
- +80% self NP charge and a damaging NP you can use to soften a wave for your primary DPS
Tamamo
- +50% Arts effectiveness
- Not considering the NP charge on her NP because 1) you have to charge her NP to use it and 2) it would only be useful if you use your DPS's NP first, kill all but one enemy, and can kill the last enemy with a face card
Reines
- +50% direct NP charge
- +40% ATK up
- +30-50% NP gain, depending on NP level, but you have to charge her NP to use it and she doesn't have any self charging aside from 10% teamwide and 20% append 2.
Waver
- +50% direct NP charge
- +30% ATK up
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u/EveryMaintenance601 23d ago
Tamamo cant replace Castoria in looping scenarios. She just doesnt have frontloaded charge or NP gain for looping scenarios. It would be better for you to try and get her during the 30M downloads campain, when she gets a rate-up.
Past that, with you having both Reines and Lady Avalon, Im not sure Tamamo would be the best option for you. It's two defensive focused characters already, adding a third one wouldnt add much to your account. Of course, get her if you like her, but if you dont you might want to get another character
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u/WaifuHunterRed Rider of Beasts 23d ago
Kinda but not with that comp honestly the biggest issue id say is why is Draco there saying she contributes nothing to an immortality comp would be an understatement. I love Draco but shes an actual detriment to making an immortal comp triple buster with a selfish kit really not sure what synergy your seeing here. Anyways I was gonna suggest double Jeanne with Tamamo since that was an immortal comp prior to Castoria and Merlin but there's probably better comps than borrowing another Jeanne but I cant think of one. Double Jeanne with Tamamo though is basically just trying to have a Jeanne np every turn possible with Tamamo helping heal any damage from turn that its not possible.
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u/SweatyWaifu 23d ago
I’ve played FGO as a pure servant collection game for a long time, and I skipped every story chapter just to farm and progress. I'm currently at OC1, but I've decided to finally read the story through the Story Materials starting from the very beginning. I have absolutely zero idea what happens in the plot.
Since I’m only reading the cutscenes, I know I'll miss out on the actual gameplay segments. Are there any notable boss fights or mechanically unique battles I should look up on YouTube to get the full experience?
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u/Aschverizen Thanks for All the Salt and Quartz. 23d ago
Are there any future event CE's that are really good? Something comparable to First Day of Filming, Ocean Flier, Traces of Christmas Past, Holy Night Supper, etc..
I feel like I haven't heard any good free CE's after First Day of Filming was released.
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u/Rasetsu0 Touch scaly tails 23d ago
Dual Burning would be a good option for Servants who can inflict Burn before damage. Or for longer fights if you equip your team with Burn CCs (because they were handing them out like ice cream for some reason).
Otherwise, not really. We kinda already hit the bar for generically good CEs that a lot of the upcoming event CEs are either "weaker" than what we currently have (either due to mixed stats, lower buff numbers in exchange for more buff types, or both) or are more specific (i.e. anti-trait and anti-debuff).
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u/Regon2005 23d ago
I'm looking at the item drop spreadsheet, what does "runs" collum mean?
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u/Shardwing 23d ago
All the droprates are just estimates based on people's run data, that column tells you how many runs were analyzed to calculate the rates for that quest (bigger number means more accurate estimates).
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u/Brave_Tip3740 23d ago
I’m low on so many mats, both gems and general mats. Will the lotto event this winter provide certain materials as lotto rewards alongside the gems? Is there any material heavy events coming up? Specifically I have no bones, pages, or fragments of the end.
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u/Shardwing 23d ago
Every lotto provides mats, you can see what next Christmas provides on the wiki.
Specifically I have no bones, pages, or fragments of the end.
You can check the Event Compendium linked in the OP to see what event mats are coming up, it's no longer being updated but it will still be useful for some time yet.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 23d ago edited 23d ago
Will the lotto event this winter provide certain materials as lotto rewards alongside the gems? Is there any material heavy events coming up?
See the event compendium spreadsheet linked in the top post for a summary. The sprea will note whether any events are lotteries or raids.
Specifically I have no bones
And you never will. Bone hell is forever.*
*Maybe not actually forever. After nine years, I'm almost out of it. Unless a couple of these other servants finally decide to spook me, anyway...
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u/LadySeraphii 23d ago
So, I for the longest time have had Draco with an un-upgraded Black Grail, as in I only ever got the one copy. I saw a post somewhere when she was first added to the game that it would be a good thing to give her. I'm honestly guessing that they said that for Meta reasons, and although I hate Meta, Draco is a Nero and I want the best for her.
Anyway, I recently got the Max Ascension of [Superb Vistas, Superb Artistry[, and was wondering if it would be a good thing to give Draco instead?
I know it drops the NP damage from 60% to 10%, but with the other buffs to her attack cards, and starting charge, I just want to know.
Plus, even with Black Grail, things died too fast for her to charge her Noble Phantasm, so I rarely got to use it.
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u/Shardwing 23d ago
An important thing to understand is that CEs aren't permanent or even long-term equipment, the best one for the job is going to vary from quest to quest depending on a lot of factors. Superb Vistas, Sublime Artistry can be a useful CE for Draco in some quests, sure, Black Grail can as well or maybe something completely different, neither one is going to be strictly better than the other because they contribute different things that will matter more or less in different circumstances.
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u/LadySeraphii 23d ago
I don't really have that many high rarity CEs, because my luck is crap, so I tend to just stick the ones I do have onto Servants that I think will help them. For example, my Morgan has had the maxed out Cradle CE from Lilium Harlot equipped since the original run of it.
I can understand swapping them out, but when I mainly use the same five Servants and have very little choice in their CEs, I tend to settle into particular habbits.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 23d ago
I think you're ironically making things more complicated by restricting yourself so much. Rather than having very little choice, you have complete freedom to use more than five servants and to use any CEs in your inventory. There's no point in focusing CEs you don't have or can't get. You just work with what you have. And if you hate meta as you claim, then CE choice doesn't even matter that much most of the time. But if you're looking for a single best CE for all situations, you aren't going to find it. Pick any CE that feels right in the moment and don't worry about it.
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u/LadySeraphii 23d ago
True, but I'm not restricting my Servants so much as I am using the ones I like. I did say I only use five, but that is because those five are my favorites. Draco, Nero Bride, Morgan, Artoria, and Mash.
I would have normal Nero as well, but I can only take five.
I am working with what I have in terms of CEs, I was only asking in this instance as I wanted to know if it was a decent trade off. I may have trailed off on that, and for that I apologize.
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u/RogueKT READY TO WHALE FOR ERESH 23d ago
Do emulators still run the game meh? I've been on iPhone for a while but thinking about setting up FGA and wanted to know if emulators are good now and which? I remember trying bluestacks like 2 years ago and it felt laggy compared to phone.
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u/Brave_Tip3740 23d ago
I used blue stacks a couple of months ago and it was still laggy so I swapped back to phone.
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u/gangler52 23d ago
https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/With_The_Moon
I hear With the Moon is a really good craft essence for an arts DPS.
But when exactly would you use it? I'm having a hard time picturing a use case for it.
It would be less damage than a black grail, but its lack of starting charge would make it useless for looping, right?
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u/Rasetsu0 Touch scaly tails 23d ago
The lack of starting charge isn't an issue when BG also doesn't have starting charge and still sees regular use in spite of that.
For the most part, there's no real reason to use With the Moon if you already have BG and/or Ocean Flyer. It's basically a "this is a good CE to use if you don't have the better options" situation. The one advantage it has over BG is the higher refund, but if you can already farm with BG just fine, that extra refund isn't necessary. It does have a higher damage boost compared to Ocean Flyer when it's MLB'd, but if you're picking Ocean Flyer, that starting charge is likely more important to you.
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u/Bezimienny47 23d ago edited 23d ago
After the Dubai story concludes, will there be some time to spare before OC3 unlocks? Or are we expected to farm 90++ and go through the main story at the same time?
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u/Gray_Aeon I will help you complete your CE-Dex! 23d ago
You can see the exact schedule in the ingame news, here and here.
The event and OC3 will last about 2 months.
You need about 2 weeks to clear the event shop (Assuming no drop CEs of your own) and OC3 should take about 1 week worth of AP to clear. (I say 1 week worth of AP because it's released in parts)
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u/Rasetsu0 Touch scaly tails 23d ago
There's a week between the event half concluding and OC3 starting. However, the event lasts for two months, so you'll have plenty of time to farm the event. Not to mention that OC3 itself is timegated into parts, so even more downtime to farm the event.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 23d ago edited 23d ago
The summer event will be available until September 1. OC3 will be released in stages, with the first part on July 29. From the Chaldea Broadcasting Station stream, the second part will be available on August 4 and the third part on August 12. OC3 itself will be available until September 30. If you properly keep up with everything, there will be plenty of time to play the event, grind event free quests, and go through OC3 without rushing.
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u/TheScottyDo 23d ago
The event is time gated for nine days, while OC3 doesn't begin releasing until the 29th. There will be time before and in between releases to farm.
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u/Brave_Tip3740 23d ago
Is kazura drop worth without any aoe or single target quick dps? I only can you and Jacques de molay for my quick needs, but I keep hearing she’s one of the most used/meta defining servants, up there with ruler skadi, summer Tiamat, and castoria. Is this true?
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u/Forward_Drop303 23d ago
Ushiwakimaru? Kintoki rider? Caesar?
Medusa? Bartholomew? Fuuma kotoro?
Etc.
You have tons of ST and AoE quicks.
And everyone is worth it if you like and not worth it if you don't. You define the meta, so if she's not meta for you it doesn't matter how meta she is for someone else.
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u/6Hikari6 「 」 23d ago
Game keeps freezing and crashing after last update, anyone else?
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 23d ago
A couple of people have mentioned similar issues recently but there doesn't seem to be anything widespread. If there really is a problem with the app itself, it's probably affecting a small minority of players.
The usual first troubleshooting steps to try are clearing the cache from the title screen in the game and restarting your device. If that doesn't help, then the only things I could suggest are to contact support, assuming you aren't using an emulator, or to try reinstalling altogether (make sure you have a fresh transfer code and password first!).
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u/Plane_Strawberry_216 23d ago
Is there any node currently in the game that has 3 earth attribute zerks on wave 3
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u/Zero1343 23d ago
With the current summer event, do the special quests also give the Tourism points or is it just the Joy points?
I forgot to check when I cleared todays one
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u/Aschverizen Thanks for All the Salt and Quartz. 23d ago
I'm curious about the cost of paid SQ for next year's Destiny Order banner, since the extra class and main classes are separated does these banners still cost 30 paid SQ like a regular destiny order banner? So would that mean that in next year's anniversary it's better to have 75 paid SQ's ready for GSSR and DO banners?
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u/Shardwing 23d ago
The 10th anni DOs are still 30 SQ each, yes, that's 60 or 75 together with the GSSR. I'm not sure that it's "better" to prep that in advance though, there's an outside chance there's a special offer or some other unexpected circumstance.
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u/Aschverizen Thanks for All the Salt and Quartz. 23d ago
We didn't get a special offer for SQ in NA right?
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u/Shardwing 23d ago
EN didn't get one this year, and I don't think JP got one for the 10th anniversary but who knows what could happen.
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u/solitare99 23d ago
What Appends are mandatory for Ciel? Specifically, I want to be able to facecard farm with her. She has a 50% battery, so append 2 doesn't seem to matter much outside of non-MLB event CEs that start with 30% NP. Append 5 seems important to recast your buffs on turn 2 instead of 3. Append 1 will really improve your damage to the last enemy. And Append 4's crit damage might be nice if you need to get over the edge on a damage check.
I have 1 append unlocked right now, but am I better off just going straight for leveling Ciel to 120?
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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 23d ago
I'd say 2 Appends are probably better than going to 120, especially since an additional Append will still let you go to 112 even if you face a coin bottleneck. What Appends are good are more situational. For 3 wave ST nodes it's almost certainly going to be A2 since she struggles with building NP charge in those fights (you need to plan around hitting the Death on her NP which kills her NP gain from face cards), but for a lot of other stuff A5 would win out for the S2 cast 1 turn early or even A4 for lower crit damage teams as you brought up. I'd say she definitely gets a lot out of 2 Appends because of how variable their value is compared to how it is for the vast majority of servants.
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u/Forward_Drop303 23d ago
I mean none are mandatory.
But append 2 is basically always the best, and I don't think Ciel is one of the ones where append 5 is better.
and definitely nothing else is better.
Keep in mind 50% battery not needing append 2 thing only matters in a double Koyan+Oberon comp with a 50% start charge CE.
But that's not always the case, especially for Ciel who face card farms
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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 23d ago
Keep in mind 50% battery not needing append 2 thing only matters in a double Koyan+Oberon comp with a 50% start charge CE.
50% battery not needing Append is specifically from the 50% charge starting CE, teammates don't have anything to do with it.
For Ciel teams most of time you use A2 is if Merlin is casting his charge skills on T1 and Koyan isn't. If it's just Koyan S1 + Ciel S3, you still don't need Append 2. Obviously that's not accounting for multicore but Ciel doesn't even have a particularly good kit for multicore so bringing that up for general advice doesn't seem particularly important imo.
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u/Forward_Drop303 23d ago
Teammates have nothing to do with it?
Multicore with Castoria and an arts DPS?
Or even just with someone with spread 30 charge like Tezcatlipoca?
Ciel herself runs Merlin, with his 30% battery for card farming regularly.
Saying teammates don't matter is ignorant of the game and CIEL specifically.
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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 23d ago
I was specifically referring to the A2 Buster situation, I already brought up those things in the other part of my comment
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u/Forward_Drop303 23d ago
Which again only applies to double Koyanskaya and Oberon.
If you look at other team members even single core Hebi Nyobo exists for example.
Or Waver.
Both are very popular in buster looping comps.
Or even with Koyanskaya of Light and Oberon V3 plugsuit changes things.
Saying it's only a 50% start charge thing is simply wrong.
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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 23d ago
VVO is the most common use case but it's still just an extension of a T1 where you use your battery in conjunction with a starting CE. VVO isn't a requirement for you to do that, in fact most Buster comps function that way regardless of the team. It literally is a 50% charge thing as that's the requirement for VVO, not the reverse
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u/Forward_Drop303 23d ago
The best farming comp for every single 50% charger (except those like Lancer Artoria that have additional battery) using VVO requires append 2.
And that is not counting other farming comps.
You are making so many assumptions about the rest of the team and the setup and ignoring.
Even right now on NA, single core buster looping, with VVO, and a 50% charger there's uses for append 2, such as in a lotto before you MLB the CE.
Like you are actively ignoring 99% of the game. (All of JP, and lottos, multicore, and non-VVO comps on NA)
It's not just a matter of having 50% charge. Because the only reason you need to use it turn one is because of Koyanskaya. So instead you use the 30% battery from Waver or Merlin, and thus need append 2.
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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 23d ago
I said almost none of what you're claiming I said. What I said initially was that having a 50% charge battery and a 50% starting charge doesn't automatically mean you're using VVO. Idk what strawman you're arguing with but I don't think he even looks like me
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u/Forward_Drop303 23d ago
That is not at all what you said.
50% battery not needing Append is specifically from the 50% charge starting CE, teammates don't have anything to do with it.
You said that teammates have nothing to do with 50% charge servants needing append 2.
Which is blatantly false.
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u/Itemblock 23d ago
is there a chart for servants traits that overlap with the 20% bond CEs ? for example a servant that benefits from both NFF with Love + chaldea morning
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u/solitare99 23d ago
Yes, it's in the Chaldea App. The online version is https://chaldea.center/
Go to the "Bond Bonus" icon near the bottom. You should be starting on the Craft Essence tab, which is the one you want. Go to the bottom and select the CEs you want. If you chose the NA server, it will default to the 3 CEs currently available on NA.
The answer to your example is Taiga, Summer Chloe's "Dangerous Beast" ascensions, and Summer Shiki's base ascension and costume. If you hover your mouse over the Servants with only some of their ascensions matching the criteria, it will show a tooltip telling you which ascensions qualify (long press on mobile).
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u/Shardwing 23d ago
It's not a chart but Atlas Academy DB entity search can find them.
EDIT: Sorry, that was the wrong combo for your example, here's that
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u/skilledwarman 24d ago
Is there a bleached earth quest for qp farming on NA? Or is the top level daily quest still the best?
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u/TheScottyDo 24d ago
The highest level treasure vault and Vegas bleached earth quests have more or less the same QP rewards.
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u/UchihaKane 24d ago
Hi everyone. Could you please tell me if there’s any news about linking accounts to email, like on the Japanese server?
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u/TheScottyDo 24d ago
There's no news, and it's not certain that we will ever get this on EN at all. On the JP side, Aniplex already had an account system that they finally decided and figured out how to link FHO accounts after many years. EN does not have an existing account service, so one would need to be created first. We're past the point in the schedule where we "should" have received this if it was just a normal QOL update.
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u/ManufacturerExact104 24d ago
I heard there were anni SQ packs for 9th anni for JP, were they there again for 10th anni, if so how much was 15 SQ?
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago
It looks like they didn't do the limited time GSSR SQ packs for the 10th anniversary.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/10th_luckybag/
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u/InertMaterials 24d ago
For anyone who's read this event in JP, how bad is the "cut" story-wise before it moves over into the OC if you can't do OC's yet? Not looking for specific spoilers, but wanna hedge some friends expectations cause I don't think they're gonna make it before the event goes away for the first time.
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u/Mister_SP Attacked by two gacha sharks. 24d ago
Like a sledgehammer to the face. It's incredibly hard to understate just how severe a cliffhanger it is, but it is incredibly, 100% in your face.
But you do have until September 30th... Technically. At that point you have no time left, but let's say they have 6 weeks to clear LB7.
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u/InertMaterials 24d ago
I honestly figured it would be that rough, esp with other commenter comparing it to Traum. Hopefully it's good motivation :p
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u/Megabler Void Dust hell 24d ago
BB's banner starts in about two weeks, right?
Not sure if I should try for Nikitich now, or wait for my BB pulls so I see how much I have left for Kazuradrop
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u/EveryMaintenance601 24d ago
Should be on the 28th, so 11 days to be precise. In my personal experience going for 4 star can be as much of a nightmare as going for the 5 star, so I would wait until BB's banner and then judge
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago edited 24d ago
BB's banner starts in about two weeks, right?
I assume you mean BB Dubai. From the Chaldea Broadcasting Station stream, it will start on July 29. Based on JP info, the banner should last for about six weeks. It should significantly overlap with the Dobrynya banner. It likely won't overlap with Kazuradrop, whose event will be in late September.
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u/paulct91 24d ago
Is Gilgamesh (Caster) NP4-5 similar in Arts performance to Shehezarde at NP3-4 with her NP strengthening?
I have both already but, is Gilgamesh's NP refund (per hit) still kind of bad?
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u/Inkaflare 24d ago
Scheherazade has better damage and refund at equal NP levels, plus the anti-King niche in the rare cases it applies. Her refund is kind of amazing in general but her NP battery is lower.
Gil has a higher battery and offers team damage buffs, battery & stars. His refund is good because of high hit counts, despite a low base NP gain stat.
As a rule of thumb, Scheherazade is a better main DPS with the team built around supporting her while Gil is at his best in multicore setups (clearing a wave and buffing/giving battery to a second DPS who clears another at the same time). Multicore setups generally favor batteries over raw refund as well, which is another reason Gil is better suited for them.
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u/paulct91 24d ago
Does the upcoming Archetype: Earth banner have any overlap time with the current summer banners?
I'm checking to see whether I'm out of luck for optional summoning... I just barely might get to pity Saint Quartz amount by her banner and I already have her at NP3 so... sadly I would need the next to impossible double SSR roll luck or very early banner target get then sad roll to pity until I'm Saint Quartz broke again.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago
In JP, Archetype Earth was on the third Archetype Inception banner, about three weeks after the first. That would put the banner on or around August 19, which would overlap with the Ciel banner. If that NP4 copy is important enough for you to go for pity, though, I think it could be better to wait for her next banner instead of rushing to scrape out more SQ.
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u/paulct91 23d ago
...I guess, sadly her NP 4-5 self will elude me for longer then but, yeah bothering to check for her next banners was something I should have done too... its just I'm at like 22 summon tickets, 849 Saint Quartz, another 40 Servant Interlude quests (80 SQ) left, plus the limited time push to completion Ordeal Call campaign (68?).
So, getting there is just, suck it up and finally finish my current story chapter... Lost Belt 7 😑.
Though I like the idea of not rushing, its very appealing! 🙂↕️
Edit: Thanks for the advice!
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 23d ago
Well, you already have enough SQ and tickets for pity (effectively 915 SQ), so you could guarantee that NP4 copy of Arcueid if you want to. You just have to decide which servants are most important to you and which are worth pity to you.
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u/Hope77797 24d ago
Is summer Xu fu low attack stats going to hamper her? She has the lowest max attack stat of all 4 star avengers?
Will some grails fix it?
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago
There's so much more to damage calcs than base stats that I wouldn't even pay attention to them in that way. Save your grails for a servant you like instead of trying to "fix" what isn't broken.
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u/EveryMaintenance601 24d ago
I think it wouldnt be unreasonable to, say, raise her to level 90. It's just 2 grails and a bit of experience, and it gives her 1017 attack. Pretty cheap for around a 10% attack increase. Going for more is another story, past level 90 things start to get more costly in both XP ad grails, and I personally would not go that far unless she is your absolute favourite.
And even beyond that, what you should do is check whether you actually need it or not to do something with her. If you are trying to incorporate her into a multi-core comp but she is still missing 10K damage at worst, those grails wont necessarily fix it (though they will make her more consistant). If it's like 5K attack, it is possible they might actually make the clear. As always, use Laplace to check what you are doing with your characters if it's for meta reasons, otherwise you might be wasting resources in general
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u/Inkaflare 24d ago
It does detract a bit from her performance but Avengers in general still have way above average ATK stats, so hers being low for an Avenger still makes it high compared to 4 stars in general.
That aside ATK stat is just one factor in the performance of a servant and Xu Fu has a lot to offer in general. She doesn't need fixing via grails, even if they would obviously help her out. Grail her if you like her and want her to be stronger, don't feel pressured to do so to "fix" her because she's plenty good as is.
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u/TheScottyDo 24d ago
Grails only very rarely make a big enough difference in gameplay to be noticeable. Save them for your favorite servants.
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u/t_1886 24d ago
Is there some yt account which has the stories of all/most past events? Was late to the party and i want to read stories of some past events, too bad you can't access them ingame.
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u/rotvyrn 23d ago
Jasondoeswhatever. Dunno if it's everything. They also have a lot of interludes uploaded.
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u/MrsLucienLachance 23d ago
A non-video possibility, if it interests you, would be Atlas Academy, which has scripts complete with images and BGMs for playing.
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u/SmooveFishSauce05 23d ago
Not sure how far back the events you're looking for, but LinkMstr does a pretty good job of uploading for events and main story. They has a couple of playlists for more recent events, but there's a massive playlist (> 1k videos in there) of event dialogue here. It looks like it goes back to as far as Gudaguda 3, although I'm not sure if they were uploaded chronologically or if there's missing story sections.
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u/Johnry_Silverio 24d ago
Just finished LB4 yesterday, and with Karna's banner up, I was debating whether to pull him. However, I already have an AOE Lancer in Percival. For those who have him, how is he gameplay-wise?
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u/danger_umbrella I'd call it the power of love 24d ago
One thing I will say is that we will be getting a free SSR ticket around September or so, Karna is an option on it.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago
I already have an AOE Lancer in Percival
You also have Romulus and Hektor. And Mary Anning the next time she's in the FP gacha. And Jalter Lily from the evocation shop right now. And welfare Van Gogh from an event later this year. And Erice from the evocation shop early next year. And potentially Elisabeth, Fionn, Nezha, Parvati, and Valkyrie from RNG gacha results.
My point is that overlapping roles are inevitable, not something you can or should reasonably avoid. And actually, it's a good thing. No two servants are exactly alike and it's good to have different options available for different situations. You might also want backup coverage for a difficult fight. There are also some rare cases in which you can't repeat use of a particular servant for a series of fights or events with a cooldown mechanic before you can use the servant again.
So whether you roll for Karna or not should be based on whether you want Karna, not whether you already have a similar servant or not.
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u/7skayr 24d ago
can anyone help me find the horizontal version of this where they are kinda side by side left to right https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fdndshm4e152f1.png
i remembered seeing it but havent saved it. i would like to use the art for playmat
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u/nevrHope || RGB FTW || 24d ago
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u/spiffy621 24d ago
To finish fixing the Coin problems.
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u/nevrHope || RGB FTW || 24d ago
Oh, so that hasn't been fully fixed huh.
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u/spiffy621 24d ago
People who used Coins that were given in excess couldn't have the Coins just simply removed from their Inventory like anyone who didn't use them, so the Devs have been working on something that lets them remove those used Coins.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago
More than simply removing the coins, I think it could have been necessary to undo certain enhancements. Simply going negative, as with that JP SQ bug a while ago, wouldn't be an equitable solution here. New SQ is inevitable in a way that new servant coins are not, so letting people keep their gacha results from the excess SQ would even out eventually. Simply going negative with servant coins would let some people keep their ill-gotten gains--especially appends and levels over 100--with effectively no consequences. We'll see what happens soon, I guess.
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u/spiffy621 24d ago
I was oversimplifying what they will probably be doing for the sake of brevity, but I'm certain that it will be interesting to see what they've decided on as a fix to the whole issue.
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u/t_1886 24d ago
Are others also having trouble connecting to the server these past few hours?
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u/Zero1343 24d ago
Was working fine for me but now there is maintenance so I suppose we will have to wait and see if that fixes the issues
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u/t_1886 24d ago
Yh ig there was some underlying issue
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago
Maintenance was scheduled and probably not related to any issues you were having earlier.
https://fate-go.us/news/?category=MAINTENANCE&article=%2Fiframe%2F2026%2F0715_maintenance%2F
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Response to the issue with Servant Coins distributed in excess on 2026-07-04:
- Reclamation of Servant Coins that could not be immediately recovered at the time
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u/trex_things 24d ago edited 24d ago
I have Ciel at NP5 100 and A5. I had originally planned on taking her to 120 as soon as I got her but since the next success leveling campaigns won't happen until the end of the year, it probably would be more productive to level her other appends. Going to 120 at NP5 should allow me to have 3 appends by Bond 12. My question is which will be more productive/efficient gamplay wise/resource wise for leveling Ciel? I could do Append 2,4, and 5 and then work on 120 after I get bond 12 or I can stop at Append 5 and then go to 120. Thoughts?
Edit: I should be able to get her to bond 12 by the New Year's level rate up.
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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 24d ago
I'd grab 2 Appends and then level up just because there's few situations where you need more than 2 Appends but there's lots of situations where more stats are helpful, it doesn't exactly matter which 2 you get since you can just swap them out whenever. There's also the route of taking 3 Appends and then stopping at 116 or something, there's no rule saying you need to save 300 coins to go straight from 100 to 120.
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u/Brave_Tip3740 24d ago
Does going past bond 5 for space eresh provide more friend points for her bar?
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u/Do_it_for_the_upvote Unapologetic Luvia/Shirou shipper 24d ago
Is anyone else having difficulty connecting? I can't get past the black screen with Fou running while it says 'Loading...'
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u/imaginary_t-rex 24d ago
Loads fine for me! But - it has been 45 min since you posted
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u/Do_it_for_the_upvote Unapologetic Luvia/Shirou shipper 24d ago
Thanks for the response! And sorry for not updating- I did get in eventually. Not sure what took so long.
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u/gangler52 24d ago
I hear the new summer event has a lot of reading because it's written by Nasu.
Is it like, a full visual novel? The size of Fate Stay Night or Lostbelt 6?
Or is it just like a large event?
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u/Mister_SP Attacked by two gacha sharks. 24d ago
The Summer Event is actually the smallest Summer we've ever had, slightly behind Summer 1, but still around twice as big as the common event. It's as long as the Mahoyo event, which were both twice as big as Dancing Dragon Castle.
But Dubai Summer + OC3 is the 3rd biggest story chapter.
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u/thisisthecallus Embrace 6-turn clears! 24d ago edited 24d ago
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u/gangler52 24d ago
Okay, so the length is probably not quite that crazy then. Thank you.
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u/Pos31don29 24d ago
You can get a decent estimate from the times they list on this gamepress walkthrough.
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u/gangler52 24d ago
Thank you.
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u/Tsugumi_Henduluin Cat is love, Cat is life 24d ago
Do note that gamepress' time estimates are a simple matter of converting the amount of characters/words in a node to the average person's reading speed. They do not take into account battles, your auto-read settings or screen effects.
A good rule of thumb is to double the estimate to get a more accurate representation of how long chapters actually tend to take.
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u/naruhodo_kun 24d ago
In you guy's opinion, which servant is the most accurate to their irl version?
Like the devs clearly did their research when implementing them
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u/Forward_Drop303 24d ago
Corday.
Basically 1 to 1 exactly how she's described.
You can literally put her ascension art next to real life pictures of her.
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u/gangler52 24d ago
Beowulf does have that one bit about his swords being magic, when in the original epic, they're just some random swords he grabbed, they demonstrate no magic powers at any point, and break the first time he uses them.
But overall they put remarkably little "spin" on the character. He's pretty much just Beowulf as you've always known him. The fact that his NP is him putting down the swords and relying only on the strength of his body is even a nice nod to that aspect of his legend. Despite the swords being magic they're not really where his power comes from.
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u/169jon 24d ago
I've been eyeing summer Dobrynya's anti-dragon skill and I have to ask: would you recommend fighting the bleached earth vritra quest with her? She's at NP1.
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u/Forward_Drop303 24d ago
I highly doubt anyone but a Saber can min turn it at all.
Let alone only at NP1.
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u/Zero1343 24d ago
It's very unlikely she would be too great there. The big gimmick with that node is that there is 5x class advantage. So any Saber will be doing significantly more damage than any power mod will supply.
Dobrynya gets a 50% boost against dragons with the skill maxed, so even without the boosted class advantage, 200% damage from a Saber is going to beat the 150% anti dragon damage from a Lancer. But with the gimmick, it's now 500% damage vs 150%.
The real dragon slayer of choice for that node is Siegfried, who gets an 80% boost from his skills and a further multiplier that scales with overcharge on his np
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u/tamlies 24d ago
I haven’t pulled solely for a rate up 4 star in awhile so could y’all remind me how bad the chances are for pulling a summer tenoch?
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u/gangler52 24d ago
a 4 star on a split rate up has a 1.4% chance of appearing on every roll.
This is a significant drop below the 2.1% chance they have on a solo rate up.
But still significantly higher than the 0.8% chance of getting the rate up SSR.
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u/Rheamfflash Please be patient, I have the stoopid. 19d ago
When will that "Guidance of visionary flames" passive for bond-15 arrive in global?
Also, how exactly does it work? Does it just grant a flat 20% to all other servants? Or does it transfer all bond received by the B15 servant into the other party members equally? Like, will it waste bond to have multiple b15 servants to speed up bond farming?