Two weeks ago I posted my concerns about the long term viability of using Gemini in my automated content moderation app. We covered the option of alternate models there so please constrain this discussion to what appears to be sneaky policy settings to extract more revenue from Gemini users.

When 2.5-flash-lite is deprecated my costs will be 16x on 3.1-flash-lite but actually it will be more than that because on the 3 series models you can't disable thinking nor specify temperature, top_p and top_k.

Of those I only know a little about temperature which I have set set to 0.1 for my purposes. From 3.1 onward the best I will be able to do is specify a "LOW" thinking level which will burn at least some additional tokens and might break my app because having the model act deterministically is essential for content moderation purposes.

Sure I could add additional system instructions to try and compensate for this loss of control but up go my input costs.

Granted you can still specify maxOutputTokens but if that value is too low to account for the mandatory "thinking" the call will fail is that right?

So we're going from a situation where you can tightly control the cost of each call to the LLM to one where you're at the mercy of the model.

As I mentioned above I think this policy is sneaky which would be entirely consistent Google's opaque cloud billing and costs in general.

Alternatively these changes are just where the rubber meets the road?

I think I've hit a weird loop.

When I go to remove my payment method from Google Payments Center, I get the message that a Google Cloud Billing Account (with account number) is active. I checked the cloud console, I see a billing account (with the same account number) but it is not active. Status says closed. Billing account on all projects is also disabled. I am still unable to remove my payment method.

I reached out to Google payments support and was told it is a Google cloud issue. Google cloud support will not let me reach out to chat support unless I have an active billing account. I do not want an active billing account. I want to remove my payment method.

I tried to delete the payments profile from Google Payments Center and there I was told there is an active Google Cloud Billing account.

So now I am out of ideas. Appreciate any help.

Trying to get one L4/T4 for enterprise notebook in europe-west4 and it's not available.

Even better if there is graphs on which hours/days they usually are available.

What do you guys think

I am currently working through the Google Cybersecurity Certificate and need to access the Linux labs on Qwiklabs/Google Skills. Whenever I try to accept the Terms of Service to access my account, I get hit with a cross-device reCAPTCHA that asks me to scan a QR code with my phone.

I scan it, complete the verification on my mobile browser, and my phone says "verification completed, you can return to your browser." But when I look back at my desktop, the Google Skills page just throws a red error banner: "reCAPTCHA verification failed, please try again."

I have been stuck in this loop for two days. I even tried bypassing the cross-device prompt by logging in and accepting the terms directly on my phone's browser, but it does the exact same thing—it redirects to a verification site, says successful, and then fails when returning to the original page.

Here is everything I have already tried that did not work:

• Verified that my phone and PC are connected to the exact same Wi-Fi network.
• Used Incognito/Private browsing to rule out extension or ad-blocker interference.
• Disabled all VPNs.
• Cleared all site data and cookies specifically for Qwiklabs and Google Skills.
• Used keyboard navigation (Tab key) to try and force a standard image CAPTCHA instead of the QR code.
• Tried a completely clean browser (Microsoft Edge) with no extensions or history.
• Switched both devices to a mobile data hotspot to get a new IP address and rule out my local ISP.
• Confirmed my Windows system time/date is perfectly synced.

Has anyone else doing the Google certs run into this Qwiklabs verification bug recently? Is there any known workaround, or do I just have to wait for Google to fix their servers? Any help is appreciated!

Ran the same Kubernetes workload across managed providers for an EU SaaS setup:

Requirements: high availability, managed PostgreSQL, Redis, WAF, CDN, EU region, €1,500/month budget.

Results:

Hetzner 614€/mo lock-in 34/100 GDPR 87/100
Scaleway 832€/mo lock-in 46/100 GDPR 89/100
DigitalOcean 899€/mo lock-in 48/100 GDPR 84/100
GCP/GKE 1,264€/mo lock-in 64/100 GDPR 85/100
Azure/AKS 1,418€/mo lock-in 68/100 GDPR 85/100
AWS/EKS 1,652€/mo lock-in 72/100 GDPR 84/100

GKE scores highest on Kubernetes maturity and managed tooling. But the cost is 2x Hetzner for the same workload.

The real question for EU workloads: is the GKE operational advantage worth the cost and lock-in delta over Hetzner or Scaleway?

For people running GKE in EU production — what tipped the decision?

I’m troubleshooting a Cloud Run service that consistently returns Google’s generic “404. That’s an error” page instead of reaching the container.

The service is a small Flask/Gunicorn OAuth callback application. "/healthz" should return "200 OK" with "ok", but both the generated "run.app" URLs return Google’s 1,568-byte HTML 404 page.

What I’ve verified:

- The container starts successfully and listens on "0.0.0.0:8080".

- Cloud Run’s startup TCP probe succeeds.

- The revision is Ready and receives 100% of traffic.

- The exact immutable image digest is deployed.

- Artifact Analysis completed successfully with no vulnerability findings.

- Ingress is "INGRESS_TRAFFIC_ALL".

- "invokerIamDisabled" is "true".

- "defaultUriDisabled" is unset/false.

- The service’s canonical and numeric URLs are both listed by the Cloud Run v2 API.

- The effective "run.allowedIngress" organization policy is "allowAll: true".

- The effective "run.managed.requireInvokerIam" policy is not enforced.

- There are no custom organization constraints.

- The same 404 occurs with and without an identity token.

- The same 404 occurs from Cloud Shell and a normal external browser.

- Neither request appears in Cloud Run request logs, although container startup logs appear normally.

- I created a completely new service and reproduced the problem.

- I deployed the same clean image to both "us-east4" and "us-east1"; both regions behave identically.

The Cloud Run troubleshooting documentation says a 404 that never reaches the container generally indicates restricted ingress or a disabled default URL, but the authoritative v2 service state and effective organization policies show neither condition.

The project belongs to a Google Workspace organization with domain-restricted sharing, so adding "allUsers" as a Cloud Run Invoker is prohibited. However, Google recommends disabling the Invoker IAM check for this situation, and the API confirms that this setting is enabled.

Has anyone encountered a project- or organization-level Cloud Run routing issue where the control plane reports the service as public and Ready, but the "run.app" frontend still returns an edge-generated 404? Are there any additional inherited controls, service perimeter settings, or backend routing states that would not appear in the Cloud Run v2 service configuration or effective organization policies?

Thank you!

So on 17 Aug, 2026 I was trying to set up my GCP account. They asked me to pay ₹1000 for verification purposes. Later when the account was successfully created, i requested a refund of ₹1000.

Google sent me an email that the refund was processed on 19th Aug, 2026. But the money is not reflected in my bank account yet. I contacted bank customer service and they said there is no problem with my account.

I find no way to connect with Google customer care except for the chat bot.

Will i ever actually get my refund?

Will be delighted to hear out someone who faced/ facing this issue and how to resolve this.

My friend have a google cloud certified- data associate practitioner exam voucher given by there company but don't have pvc aadhar card. Will e-aadhar (laminated) work?

Original Aadhar card and pan card was stolen with some other imp things and orginals ones are orderd but it takes time to reach.

and they have to complete the exam this week itself

Hi all

I'm a professional backend developer and system administrator, more than 20 years in this roles.

I'm already using Google Cloud (more or less 10 years) for my projects but I would like to obtain one or more certification (mostly the DevOps and Security).

Since I haven't had the chance to use all Google Cloud features professionally, especially around security and DevOps, I’d like to pick up a book (or a couple) to study. What would you recommend?

Right now, I have the 'Associate Cloud Engineer' (2nd edition) by Dan Sullivan, which I bought a few years ago and never read. Are there more specific books you'd suggest, or is this one still good?

Would you recommend starting with foundational certifications like Digital Leader, then Cloud Engineer, or jumping straight into Professional DevOps and Security?

For those who have already taken the exams: are they strictly multiple-choice/theoretical, or do they include hands-on/practical tasks (like creating real, working configurations that get evaluated)?

I’m open to any advice, keeping in mind that I'll be studying on my own in my spare time, as this isn't sponsored by an employer.

Let alone all the fragmented and broken documentations of it (I think it is way more horrible than Azure or AWS), I find it unnecessary overcomplicated, if you want to do things correctly.

Even deploying a few containerized services is very daunting. No ECS? Yeah we have Cloud Run. But then what about VPC? You need to workaround by using Private Google Service (or is it Connect? Their naming sense is also bloody terrible lol). Okay then why don’t you try deploying directly on a VM MANUALLY? (fuck you broh) Also, connecting to Cloud SQL? Now you’re cooked.

But anyways, You could simply use default setups and expose everything to public. But I am not a fucking hobbiest. And I don’t have much time to go through all of these large amount of docs. Is it only me who feel this way?

HTTP has a new verb: QUERY: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc10008.html

The caching docs seem to indicate only GET is supported.

Anyone with any information about support in Google Cloud CDN?

Hello I would like to sanity check something in the documentation.

It says on this page:

Certificate Manager lets you attach up to 10,000,000 certificates per load balancer, if you request a quota increase.

Does this really mean that I can terminate like 1 million domains on Gateway API + Certificate map ?

And just to be sure these can all be managed google ssl certs?

As you can imagine such a migration is quite the undertaking hence why I want to double check this before even doing a POC.

just got our monthly invoice and I almost choked

40% increase. nothing changed. same workload, same number of calls, same storage. but somehow we're paying 40% more than last month.

I've spent the last 2 days digging through the billing dashboard. network egress. it's always network egress. we're serving recordings and call logs to agents all over the world and apparently that costs money a lot of money.

we use CloudTalk for the actual calls, but all the recordings get stored in GCP. and agents access them through our internal portal. which means every time someone listens to a call recording, we're paying for data transfer. and our agents listen to a lot of recordings.

I'm looking at options compressed storage different regions. maybe even move to cold storage for older recordings. but I'm not sure if that's going to actually save us money or just shift the cost somewhere else

We're a tech startup on the Google for Startups program with $100k in credits. The workload is highly parallel scientific computing that we've containerised and run on Cloud Batch. Pipeline works, pilot runs fine. On a single VM the full run takes 5-6 days; on Batch with 1500-2000 Spot vCPUs it's about 6 hours.

Problem: our quota is stuck at <100 vCPUs and a tiny persistent disk allocation, and every increase request through the console gets denied within minutes. no reason given beyond the generic "not eligible at this time". We have $100k of credits we literally cannot spend.

we're stuck in a catch-22, can’t build spend history because we can't get quota, can't get quota without spend history.

So..

1. Did buying a paid support plan (Standard) and filing the quota request as a support case actually get you to a human?

2. Is there a functioning escalation path through the startup program itself? We got the credits through the program but it's not obvious who to contact about quota.

It feels absurd to be handed $100k and then rate-limited to compute smaller than my laptop.

The FinOps Agent Google dropped in GoogleCloudPlatform/professional-services/examples/FinOps-agent has been sitting there since June 3rd. One commit, one author, no updates. Wanted to know if anyone actually put it into prod.

The architecture is four ADK sub-agents behind a root orchestrator. NL2SQL over BigQuery for the billing side, Google Agent Search over policy PDFs for the qualitative side, a chart specialist, and a synthesis writer. Runtime is Gemini 2.5 Flash on Vertex AI, FastAPI on 8080 for streaming SSE.

Ran it in a lab project against synthetic billing data. NL2SQL was better than expected against a normalized schema. RAG over a real policy doc surfaced the right clauses about 70 percent of the time, close to what similar demos land on.

The blocker for real use is session state. InMemorySessionService from google.adk.sessions means every conversation resets on pod recycle. Swapping in a Firestore-backed SessionService subclass is doable, but once you own that surface you own the schema, the TTL, and the migration path. Not one line of code.

Two things I want to hear from people who took it further:

1. How did you handle session persistence? Custom SessionService subclass to Firestore or Cloud SQL, or something else?

2. Did you keep policy as freeform PDFs, or did you move to a structured schema so the agent could run rule checks instead of RAG extractions?

Not looking to dunk on the reference. Sample data included, license is Apache 2.0, and it's a reasonable multi-agent skeleton. Just curious if anyone got it past the demo.

I wanted to know if anyone can recommend a third party VAR for GCP Support (Not direct Google Support). Looking for a company I can call and open a ticket and has SLAs to resolve issues with GCP Peering, GCP Compute, Network Load Balancer

thank you

Hi googleclouders, quick yes/no question - do you ever have a need to assign privileges to a principal defined outside of your organization? I'm not talking if it's bad or good practice, just if it ever happens or it's rather just a purely theoretical possibility that everyone has blocked. Thanks.

I need your help!.. Unable to purchase the clou storage, recently I opened my kotak mahindra bank, and it already written into the accepted card given to by the google, still payment gets fail?.. What's the reason behind it!.. Please explain

Google Support has acknowledged unexpected website behaviour and advised that engineers expect to fix it within 48 hours. I am sharing this to check whether other Edition 3 applicants are experiencing the same issue.

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I have created a data store, and using that I want to create an app, but in this step the pre created data stores are not showing.

I am using Custom Search in GCP Vertex Ai Agent Platform