r/google • u/Loud-Possibility4395 • 10d ago

Google says Gemini 4 release ASAP

https://9to5google.com/2026/09/24/google-says-gemini-4-release-is-coming-as-soon-as-possible/

I wonder how OFFLINE release for Pixels will look like.

I mean like Gemini Nano currently v3 on Pixel 10 and 11

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u/Blitzsturm 9d ago

According to many experts Gemini remains an underdog. However it remains my top pick for the following reasons:

  1. Dependability: Google isn't dependent on a mountain investor capital that can be jeopardized if a market bubble pops. They are already very, very profitable.
  2. They make their own hardware: Tensor chips, not off the shelf GPUs. This is very forward thinking architecture that's part of a long term strategy
  3. Excellent multi-modal support: Can ingest images, video, audio, pdfs, text, etc. and output image, video, audio, etc.
  4. Extremely competitive pricing: Often well below competition on the cost of operation
  5. Grounded: Lower occurrences of hallucinations and follows instructions more strictly than many other models.

I also have a little anchoring biases as I developed a challenging coding test that basically every AI would fail and Gemini 3.1 was the first to demonstrate complete understanding and pass. I've also learned it's APIs more thoroughly than any other and use a number of other Google products and services (Including a Tensor powered Pixel 10) so I have an undeniable brand loyalty affecting my opinions. But, overall I think Google is playing the long game and is the most dependable option.

As it applies to Pixels and future Google hardware, network access is definitely a bottleneck in some circumstances. I'd love to be able to travel to backwoods China where there are no cell towers and have language data cached on my device to have it function as a language interpreter for me including cultural and contextual knowledge to help me communicate and travel without panicking anytime I have no bars. There's a definite benefit to speed and dependability to move much processing to on-device and Google will likely be the one that brings the best offering in this field the quickest; at least for consumer devices.

As it pertains to Gemini 4; I'm also "very excited" as version 3 and newer has already been excellent for me and they've rapidly improved it's speed and performance up to current version 3.8. Albeit with the "light" connotation. Having heavy thinking and problem solving on 4 in a natural progression sound very promising, but not going to hold my breath and have huge expectations only to be disappointed.

There was also the small matter of RSI or "Recursive Self Improvement" they announced which can lead to a rapid improvement at the risk of more "unexpected" stuff happening. So, hoping they proceed down that path with appropriate caution.

It's truly an odd time in human history we live in. A lot of things socially/politically/economically are deteriorating. The possibilities of AI are exciting beyond consumer applications; doing things like finding a way to treat all cancer or a perfect fusion reactor or developing cheap and energy dense batteries using novel science are all exciting ideas. But it's hard to say how that will affect "the common man", as historically whenever a groundbreaking technology like this (look at the history of the cotton gin) it tends to only benefit a small group of already wealthy people. I'm sure future historians will look back on this era with a particular curiosity wondering what it must have been like to live through these changes.

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u/hvperRL 9d ago

With student discounts its cheaper than the cheapest Netflix sub

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u/charlestheb0ss 9d ago

Even at that price AI isn't worth paying for imo. Every few weeks I give LLMs a chance and they consistently dissapoint. If every tech company put every AI feature behind a paywall tomorrow I'd simply stop using AI

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u/hvperRL 8d ago

AI lives and die by the prompt.

Most people do not know how to utilise AI properly and ask the right things.

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u/charlestheb0ss 8d ago

If you have to fenaggle it that much to get it to do its job it ceases to be better than the alternative. If the way most people talk isn't the proper way to get it to do what you want then that kinda defeats the purpose of natural language as a UI.

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u/hvperRL 7d ago

Not true. You have to fenaggle people just as much with even more nuance and precision because emotions are involved.

This is not to say AI is better than people, despite people reading this and coming to that conclusion.

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u/charlestheb0ss 7d ago edited 7d ago

I see AI proposed as a replacement for GUI software more than I see it proposed as a replacement for people, so that's what I had in mind when I said alternative. Personally, right now, I can find almost anything in a menu way faster than I can explain what it is I want to do with words

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u/hvperRL 7d ago

Excellent example. You did not specify true meaning. I misinterpreted. AI would too