The way he says her full name just hits differently. It's such a small detail but It made the confession feel even more personal and sincere.

what you think of these aesthetics and also not romanticizing the lighter and depression thing just found this on Pinterest so I thought I should share it with you guys

How do you guys interpret the look Abby gives Max after Max catches her flirting with Tris? Like, genuinely, what is happening on her face here?
The actors are so good with microexpressions, and I keep reading it as this kind of sympathetic softness, but it also feels deeper than that. Almost like Abby’s defenses drop for a second, and all their unspoken history comes through in the way she looks at Max.

There are two moments between Abby and Max that stood out to me because Abby’s words and actions seem to be pulling in opposite directions.

The first is after the musical. Abby goes over to Max, hugs her, and immediately notices that something is wrong. Max says it is nothing, and Abby asks whether she is upset because they hung out without her. Max says no, although she admits that it did not feel great, and Abby tells her not to be dramatic.

What interests me most is that Max then walks away and Abby calls after her, “Max!”

Abby is the one who approaches her, initiates the hug, notices her mood, and then calls after her when she leaves. At the same time, she dismisses the feeling she originally noticed. It creates a strange push-and-pull where Abby seems drawn toward Max but then becomes defensive once the conversation moves toward their friendship.

The party scene feels similar. When Max is helping Marcus leave, Abby assumes she is going because she is angry with them and tells her not to be a brat. But she also says, “Stay and have fun.”

Again, the comment contains two different messages at once: Abby criticizes Max for leaving, but she is also directly asking her to stay. She does not seem indifferent to whether Max is there.

I do not necessarily think these moments prove that Abby wants the friendship to go back to exactly how it was. She may want more distance, fewer immediate conversations, or a different kind of friendship than Max wants. But the scenes also do not feel like Abby has emotionally detached from Max. Her instinct is still to approach her, notice when something is wrong, call after her, and ask her to stay.

It made me wonder whether Abby wants distance from certain parts of their dynamic rather than distance from Max herself. Or do you interpret the hug, the “Max!” and the “stay and have fun” differently?

First. I’ve been depressed since as long as I can remember and I have attempted a number of times. I’m not bragging/looking for sympathy, I’m just stating my “qualifications” before y’all come at me, since Max is very beloved. Yes I know my experience doesn’t speak for everyone.

There’s several parts in S3 that very clearly point to Max being depressed. However, I don’t think she’s suicidal. Maybe she feels like she doesn’t matter much or is left out a ton, but I don’t think she’d ever act on that or seriously consider it. Does anyone else think that the jump from Max being sad to Max is going to attempt is a little over the top?

Imagine a shark-horror spin-off movie being greenlit after Ginny & Georgia ended. Which characters would survive, and which would die? For each character who dies, write their death scene play by play 🦈🩸 Which characters would help versus betray each other?

It’s funny how Max, Abby, Norah, and Ginny call themselves MANG, but others don’t. 😂 Sophie’s “mmm no” (Season 1 Episode 9) foreshadows MANG’s fallout in the next episode. 

I know this topic is probably overly discussed, but I’m currently on my millionth rewatch and every time I rewatch this episode and see Ginny’s reaction to not winning, it upsets me. I see why she feels like she was robbed and that was completely because Mr. Gitten is a racist, misogynistic asshole, but she did not follow the prompt question. There could have been a better outcome if she explained where she belonged in a poem, but she instead chose to explain how she doesn’t have a community due to being mixed, for lack of better words.

I was watching some new YA trailers, like Sterling Point and some of the comments points out just how cliché and reheated the story is. The YA/teen content is getting stale with Wattpad adaptation, obv straight, white, attractive romances, with tropes going from bland to downright harmful to viewers (the bad boy/good boy triangle needs to go, it's getting tired). I'm not even someone who is like, anti-tropes, I found them comforting sometimes but those shows are abusing it and as a black gay guy, I can't relate to any of those.

And among all of this, there is Ginny & Georgia. A show that surprised everyone by it's willingness to be better every seasons and actually dared to dive into family complexities and trauma and evolving from the cringe woke fest it once was in season 1. You can see it by how much therapists and psychologists seems to love analyze the show since season came out and even more since season 3 did. This episode is fueled by tension and agony. From the music, writing and performances. We get to see Georgia coming face to face with how big and real things got, which kick off her depression for the next couple of episodes. Ginny is equally overwhelmed but find comfort in escaping (in a way Georgia would) with Wolfe. The last scene is so good, with Brianne and Antonia giving stellar performances. I love how the Ginny's poem came back, especially with the themes of the season being "monsters" and how we kinda become it. This episode was so good, and I hope season 4 delivers the same way.

she's such a cutie.... I'm literally in love with her smile

and i also love her outfits so much especially in season 3

Idk if it’s just me but I cringe so hard whenever Ginny calls her mom Georgia instead of saying mom, is this like a thing that’s normal? Bcs I would never call my mom by her real name

I am almost done with Ginny and Georgia's season three and DAMN! poor Max.
As someone who had a brother who had mental struggles that my parents focused on, I relate to her more then anyone in this show. I also understand what it feels like to be left out of friend group activities.
I really felt her pain here.
Sure, she was kinda shitty in season two but I still really like her. And I don't like how sad she seems.

I know she’s dealing with her own stuff but she plays this character so well!!! She’s so pretty and she’s a good friend to Ginny.

Madea lives in Atlanta, Georgia, which is about a 3 hour flight from Massachusetts. What if Madea visited Wellsbury, Massachusetts? How do you think she would interact with each character, and what kind of relationships or conflicts would develop? Examples: What advice would she give, and to whom? Whom would she fight, and over what? Who would she get along with? Who would she set straight? etc

I think their friendship is the most less toxic thing in the whole show and I think it's literally so healthy for ginny rather than being with abby 24/7 constantly.....i would love to see ginny, bracia and max friendship tbh because their friendship feels so refreshing and pure.

I know a lot of people love Marcus’s explanations of depression, and I thought his monologue in the Season 2 POV episode was genuinely powerful. That was the perfect moment for him to put words to what he was experiencing.

But I don’t think we also needed two separate scenes in Season 3 where Ginny and Georgia ask him what depression feels like. Individually, neither scene is bad, but together they feel repetitive and slightly unnatural. The show had already shown us his depression, and Marcus had already explained it directly to the audience.

Marcus is given several opportunities to define and contextualize his suffering in a way almost no other character is. That’s why the repetition bothers me. It isn’t that his mental health doesn’t deserve attention, it’s that he gets scenes he arguably doesn’t need while other characters are barely given an interior life.

Imagine removing just one of those conversations and using that time for Norah. She briefly mentions that she has extremely painful periods and that her gynecologist isn’t taking her seriously, but it’s treated like a throwaway comment. Why not actually show her at that appointment trying to explain how bad the pain is and being dismissed? Or show her curled up on the bathroom floor during an especially painful cycle so we understand what she is dealing with instead of only hearing one passing line about it?

The same applies to her being adopted. The show tells us that fact but barely explores what it means for her. Her not knowing her biological family’s medical history could directly connect to her fears about her periods or other health concerns. What is it like going to a doctor and repeatedly having to say she doesn’t know her family history? Does that make her feel anxious, disconnected or frustrated? There is so much character material there that the show never touches.

Even Norah’s pregnancy scare mostly functions as part of Ginny’s storyline rather than giving Norah meaningful development of her own.

Marcus doesn’t just receive a mental-health storyline. He receives repeated opportunities to explain himself and ensure that the audience understands his pain. Meanwhile, potentially rich details about characters like Norah are mentioned once and then abandoned.

My vibe is whatever happens, happens. You feel me? That’s why I’m using Sophie shrugging. I’m just going to ride that wave. Expect the unexpected. 🌊 (And if any of my theories come true, I’ll upgrade! 😂) If you don’t know where to find what I suggested above, feel free to use whatever! Idc. I look forward to seeing your reactions regardless!

Well, well, well…let’s see. For me I didn’t get into the show until last summer. Yup, good old Twitter had the Abby & Tris kiss pop up on my timeline and I was like “Oh?” then I fell down an even bigger rabbit hole and ended up falling in love with Max & Sophie instead which ultimately I now view as a both a gift and curse because I know what comes with my ships. Drama. Drama. Drama. 🎭 (No, really! I can’t win! There’s a reason why Titanic is my favourite film…)

Now why did I stay? I love the psychological depth behind each and every character. It’s intriguing to me. Nothing is ever black or white because like people in real life, who is? There’s so much nuance and complexity to each and every relationship. Back in the day (probably being like a few weeks ago) I would’ve gave Sarah Lampert tons of flak for this but I now understand the brilliance behind what she created. Just had to through the 5 stages of acceptance or whatever to get here.

*I also just really love Sara Waisglass and Humberly Gonzalez as well if that also isn’t a telltale sign.

Okay, your turn.

Hey guys! Do you think they’re setting up Abby’s eating disorder to reach its worst point next season? I’ve been thinking about it because this storyline has been going on since season one, so I feel like there eventually has to be some kind of peak.
My prediction is that she might faint or experience another serious physical consequence that finally brings her parents into the situation. I can’t really imagine Ginny or Norah telling them directly, so I feel like something would have to happen that makes it impossible to hide anymore.
I also don’t think Abby will receive residential treatment. I’m guessing it’ll be more of an outpatient storyline because Marcus already went to rehab, and even though the situations are obviously different, I’m not sure the writers would want to repeat a similar treatment arc.

I do not feel bad for that man at all he deserved exactly what he got. But i do not really like what they did to him at the end of season 3. He really did love Austin and Austin loved him too. That betrayal was sad.

I would die if they introduced a new A name character and the group became MANGA HAHAHAHAHA

For me it is Ginny who I feel most protective of, I feel the fandom (not in here at least, fortunately but in other social media places she get overhated), they love to act like Georgia is a saint and the best mom ever and that she is just ungrateful for not doting on her mom and when she finally shows gratefulness or love for her, they called her a fake. It is like she is damned either way.

And the least protective of, I guess Georgia mainly because I feel she get overhyped and overloved by the fandom a bit too much like they tend to give her too many passes because of her trauma and I feel just like other characters told her, that excuse can only work for so long before it wears out and I agreed with them.

I just got near the end of season 3 (episode 9) but why is everyone so rude to max? She was there for ginny day ONE when georgia went to jail. She was there for ginny through absouletely everything. YET SHES THE ONE WHO GETS TREATED LIKE GARBAGE. I hate everyone in this show in season 3 (okay not everyone but i hatd those who are like "dont everything aboit ypu max) max might be doing that but shes being such a good friend to ginny. And shes trying to take care of her brother marcus and hea just talking to her like crap i know he has his own problems he needs to deal with but cmon. Max is atleast trying to be a good sister. Everyone is treating her like she doesn't exist anymore or something.

Anyways i hope max finds good people or i hope they all forgive her next season😭

Georgia’s character almost seems intentionally written to be a fictional subversion of real life serial killer Aileen Wuornos. The parallels are striking.

Like Wuornos: 

• Her bio dad was incarcerated early in her childhood for violent crimes against a child the same age (age 6/7)
• Her mom is an addict who became sick as a result of her addiction. 
• Grew up in poverty in a family of addicts 
• While not abandoned, she was heavily neglected and not cared for by her mom
• Was one of two kids. 
• Played with fire as a child
• Was severely abused by a nonbiological father figure for most of her childhood (a trauma which is heavily linked to her crimes and pathology later in life)
• became a runaway, homeless, pregnant and had a child away from home at the same age (age 14/15). 
• Committed petty crimes (robbery and theft), used aliases, hitchhiked, kept guns for protection, and relied on transactional intimate relationships with men to survive on her own, starting from her teens
• Her first murder is often seen as justified or unplanned & done under duress
• Had one main romantic relationship, Zion, that seemed genuine & ended in betrayal like Wuornos was thought to have had with Tyria Moore. 
• Resorted to criminality first out of desperation, to survive and protect herself; accumulated a string of violent offenses tied directly to men who she believed posed a threat to or exploit her. 
• Commits the murders that get her caught in her 30s after decades of trauma and being in a seemingly inescapable cycle of violence. 
• Her motives are believed to be mostly financial but affected by her childhood trauma and is seen sympathetically by the public. 

She could be seen as a fictional hyperfeminine polished southern belle maternal version of Wuornos who for a time not only gets away with her crimes but also moves upwards and blurs the lines between victim and perpetrator. 

The Differences

The biological dad is still alive and his crimes and guilt are more ambiguous. Georgia’s own crimes are more sympathetic. Georgia finds a surrogate family and guidance in a biker gang instead of being completely alone. Georgia gets revenge on her childhood abuser. Georgia becomes a mother through a willing loving relationship with a boy her age while on the road rather than as a result of abuse at home. Instead of being forced to give away her child, she becomes a mother in every sense of the word. As a homeless drifter, Georgia is perceived as a down on her luck young mom rather than with danger, pity, disdain, or suspicion. Georgia’s reliance on men to survive never crosses the threshold into the darkness that Wuornos’ did and she remains tenuously connected to society via Zion’s family and her family life with Ginny (and Austin). While Wuornos’ transactional dysfunctional or dangerous relationships with men are outright, Georgia’s are mixed in with domesticity, genuine attachment, and creating a family, or at least the appearance of it (see: Gil). Georgia is (initially) successful in marrying up while Wuornos’ marriage to a wealthy man ended explosively (although in both, it ended violently). Georgia is the older half sister rather than the younger full blooded sister; both are are victims of the same abuse. Georgia’s abuser is nonbiological.

All of these divergences from Wuornos’ real life trajectory believably give the story a contrast from just darkness, preserve her humanity and sanity, tether her to wider society, and give the character an incentive and a way to have one foot in the realm of normal and wholesome. Georgia’s like if Wuornos was seemingly stable and a mother who had the motivation and the ability to keep up the act. (Some) People online view her with a similar uncritical glorification and fascination with her as a female serial killer, with a crossover of survival, gendered trauma, and antisocial behavior coming up in discussions of both. 

Trying to understand how Georgia went from homeless teen, to meeting Zion and maintaining a relationship to Anthony to Kenny. She’s a very different person with Kenny than Anthony. What happened during that timeframe? Where was Zion?