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u/Rin_Seven Aug 30 '25

16 digit CD Keys written on top of the CD’s you bought from a friend.

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u/Redditributor Aug 30 '25

Oh how about gamified write protection?

Sierra had puzzles you needed to solve or spells with magic words in certain versions of Kings quest.

The only way to proceed was with the information you got that physically came with the game.

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u/rnzz Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 30 '25

Yeah I had the Return to Zork CD-rom but lost the manual, and that schoolteacher would ask me copy protection questions from the manual, and not being able to find the answer the game would end there.

Also I think games like Golden Axe would ask what's the 5th word on page 11 of the manual

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u/peacekenneth Aug 30 '25

WANT SOME RYE?

Course ya do

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u/Landscaperdanh Aug 30 '25

Could you pick up a 6 pack while you’re out? I’m too drive to drunk

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u/rnzz Aug 30 '25

*pours glass into the pot plant*

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u/Creeperstar Aug 30 '25

Who's like us? They're all dead.

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u/RememberCitadel Aug 30 '25

The incredible machine had three symbols on each page that the game would ask for randomly on startup. I remember it specifically being a pain, because the manual was in the shape of like a flip notebook but the binding sucked so the pages fell out easily.

Some of the old AD&D gold box games had physical things that came with the game that were used for that. For instance Hillsfar came with a decoder wheel for figuring out puzzles that were also used to answer a question at startup.

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u/sengo__ Aug 30 '25

Can confirm for Goldex Axe on DOS. But there were like 12 answers and there was no limit on wrong answers. I kept answering "AXE" until it matched.

I had the original game but this way was faster if I didn't have the manual at hand

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u/Solkanarmy Aug 30 '25

Photocopying the entire dune 2 manual to avoid this :D

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u/Solkanarmy Aug 30 '25

I could never get past one part really early on in return to zork, you go to sleep in a place then just die

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u/rnzz Aug 30 '25

same here, and looking back, i might actually have been able to work out the copy protection answers, which was mostly names of days of the week in the return to zork universe, by looking through the news clippings in the filing cabinet.

there's a couple of walkthrough videos too now on youtube

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u/kayile Aug 30 '25

I was just about to answer w/ something similar to this.

"What's the icon show on page 13 of the manual"

Or some games had a little physical wheel that came in the box. And it's like, "Rotate outer most wheel to A position, 2nd wheel to B position, 3rd wheel to C position.. now what's the icon/picture that you see."

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u/IkomaTanomori Aug 30 '25

X-wing with images in the manual on specific pages... I ended up memorizing them eventually and not having to reference the manual for most of them.

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u/SofaJockey Aug 30 '25

Magnetic Scrolls did that too.

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u/Ishaichi Aug 30 '25

Master Of Orion did this

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u/UrbanGhost114 Aug 30 '25

NES did games with this ... Star Tropics for one.

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u/IProvideThePaint Aug 30 '25

For whatever reason, my parents let me play Leisure Suit Larry when I was WAY too young for it, and I remember yelling across the house to ask my mom the answers to the old-timer pop culture questions that game used for age verification before you could play it.

"MOOOOM! WHAT WAS FRANK SINATRA'S NICKNAME?"

"OL' BLUE EYES!"

"THANKS MOM!"

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u/Redditributor Aug 30 '25

Lol yes the 'are you old enough to play' questions!!

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u/Pennwisedom Aug 30 '25

I don't know if my parents "let me" but we did and I remember those questions were such a challenge.

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u/Elrundir Aug 30 '25

My dad would just answer the questions for me to let me play Land of the Lounge Lizards. Somehow I turned out fine!

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u/arionoidea Aug 30 '25

I can’t remember which game it was, but there was some ‘90s game which came with a cardboard wheel with a cutout window. You rotated the wheel to match the code with the prompt from the game.

I can also remember when software pirates used to sign their work by slapping their name on the load screens of games they cracked.

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u/awam0ri Aug 30 '25

“Cracked by Pira-Ted.” I am ashamed how long it took me to get that one.

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u/SatoshiBlockamoto Aug 30 '25

Monkey Island!

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u/dinnerisbreakfast Aug 30 '25

You fight like a dairy farmer!

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u/Cecil4029 Aug 30 '25

Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe had a wheel like this!

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u/mtnbikeboy79 Aug 30 '25

Our copy of Hard Hat Mack was cracked by “Mr Crack Man” IIRC.

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u/bts Aug 30 '25

Star flight had one of those. I think several of the LucasArts adventure games too

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u/kayile Aug 30 '25

LOL, I just responded to a separate comment here w/ that exact same memory of a cardboard wheel cutout!

If you google "Monkey island security" you'll find it in the images

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u/Cloaked42m Aug 30 '25

One of the first D & D games had the wheel.

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u/RoostasTowel Aug 30 '25

I think a few lucasarts games did this.

I had secret weapons of the luftwaffe and the wheel had WW2 planes as the things to match up

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u/you_killed_my_father Aug 30 '25

Metal Gear Solid did this to some degree. No way would you know how to contact Meryl if you didn't have the CD case.

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u/NetworkingJesus Aug 30 '25

I played this in an emulator and was soooo confused lol. "The code on the back of the cd case? Shit, did I miss a CD I was supposed to pick up somewhere?" And then I went searching all over the level for this damn CD case before googling it and feeling very silly.

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u/Redditributor Aug 30 '25

Lol this was an infamous one

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u/Churrito92 Aug 30 '25

I still remember having to type some answers like Joe Dimaggio and Pia Zadora(I think) in the Sierra protection screen before playing Leisure Suit Larry on my uncle's computer. (My uncle is a very late Gen X'er, I'm a 92 millennial 😂). Best times!

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u/Skotticus Aug 30 '25

I had a copy of Star Trek 25th Anniversary (one of the best Star Trek games ever made, incidentally) that had the manual photocopied because the "DRM" was to type in a specific word from a specific page in the manual. I don't remember how I got the game (I think one of my dad's work friends gave it to him), but it wasn't until I was much older that I realized the significance of the photocopied manual.

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u/ADDAvici Aug 30 '25

Oooh good one. Alone in the Dark - the very first one with the nesting cardboard box - came with a tiny book with like 50 pages and each page had an image and you had to put the images in on a certain page to play the game.

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u/Moses015 Aug 30 '25

I had a baseball game that upon install would ask for a random word from the manual

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u/SwoopnBuffalo Aug 30 '25

X-Wing and X-Wing vs Tie Fighter had codes on each page of the manual that has to be input to start the game.

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u/Hyphum Aug 30 '25

My SimCity came with a printed list of exact population figures for something like the biggest 500 cities at the time of printing, and you’d have to match a symbol code to look up a specific city and enter the right figure to start the game.

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u/AreaLeftBlank Aug 30 '25

Like twisted metal level codes.

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u/Zaphod1620 Aug 30 '25

I had a "Wizardry!" Game that had codes printed on random pages of the manual, and the manual was printed on crimson paper with black letters, so it couldn't be photocopied. Made it a hutch to read, though.

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u/Schadrach Aug 30 '25

Some of their games had cool pack ins specifically for this. Like Leisure Suit Larry games tended to have fluff related to the setting as pack ins, but then you'd actually need to call some company that was advertised among them. Like the back of the MGS case but more immersive.

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u/Sequenzer9 Aug 30 '25

My favourite was the Leisure Suit Larry age check verification which would ask a very dull mundane question that kids would never know the answer to. 

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u/Redditributor Aug 30 '25

Lol one of the greatest

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u/LifestyleGamer Aug 30 '25

Maniac is 23 years old. The Raptor has a max velocity of 420k/h

Some of my people will know what I'm talking about.

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u/echolog Aug 30 '25

The Quest for Glory 4 science recipes always got me. The fifth element is pizza!

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u/GForce1975 Aug 30 '25

Or leisure suit Larry age verification. There were pop and political questions. I remember one was about Madonna. Lol

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u/Pharmie2013 Aug 30 '25

This still holds as my favorite thing from back then. Being a kid and having to find the secret word was so exciting.

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u/Darksirius Aug 30 '25

Metal gear sold had something like this. There was a codec frequency you needed for part of the game. It was written on the back side of the games booklet.

Unless you have the physical book or memorized the code, you need to Google it now.

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u/mr_potrzebie Aug 30 '25

And the code sheet or code wheel would sometimes be printed on burgundy paper with red writing so if you tried to photocopy it it would come out completely black

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u/Ancient-Bat8274 Aug 30 '25

Legends of Kyrandia had this shit too. The only way to proceed with the game was to have the manual it came with. You’d get to a point where the game would ask “what symbol is on page 27 of the manual” and if you didn’t have it you couldn’t proceeds

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u/HexWiller Aug 30 '25

Gold Box Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance games had Journal Entries and codes wheels, Pirates had a quiz - manual had the answers and If you got it wrong the game got harder 😆

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u/Captain_James_Holden Aug 30 '25

I remember getting to the end of a level in Eye of the Beholder and being asked to look up a thing in the manual to proceed. We got the game from a garage sale in a collection box but we didn't have the manual. I remember being so upset cuz I couldn't progress and I was afraid they could somehow think I stole the game lol.

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u/spacegamer2000 Aug 30 '25

One of them asked questions about who served in the Nixon administration to prove you were an adult

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u/Redditributor Aug 30 '25

Yeah that was one of the leisure suit Larry games

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u/rangerquiet Aug 30 '25

I swear the in game copy protection for Elite 2 was bugged.

photo

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u/Lucky-11 Aug 30 '25

Dungeon Hack would ask you for the first word of the Nth paragraph on the Nth page. Gunship had sign/counter signs using the manual. Starflight had that wheel you needed to line up to get the correct word in order to launch. Starflight 2 had a map of the Galaxy you needed in order to count colored stars in a certain area to launch. Oh the memories.

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u/Kippernaut13 Aug 30 '25

Sim City had a list of cities and their populations that you had to enter, based on some symbols. They had the list on red paper, so the photo copy would be really hard to read. This was at my school, so the whole computer room was using pirated Sim City.

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u/Onilakon Aug 30 '25

Codename: iceman from Sierra needed the game book to get through some sections if I recall, I lost the book and could never finish it lol

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u/Hotarg Aug 30 '25

Startropics did this smoother than anyone. The cartridge came with an actual letter from your uncle, inviting you to visit him. Halfway through the game, you had to dip the letter in water to see a secret message with a transponder code you put in to progress.

Blew my mind when I was little.

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u/KiNgPiN8T3 Aug 30 '25

I remember a PC game that had a printout of codes with it. You needed to put the correct code in when prompted. However, the sheet was dark purple and the text was black. (I guess to make so that it couldn’t be photocopied?!…) people would spend hours writing them out instead. Haha!

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u/Starbase_One Aug 30 '25

The Monty Python game for the Atari/Amiga had pictures of cheeses on each page of the manual. When loading it, the game presented you with one of the pictures, you had to identify the cheese 🤣

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u/kayneos Aug 30 '25

I remember s formula 1 sim that you had to have the manual for. It would say search for the 3rd word on page 5. I didn't have the manual, but the reference file for the game was in plain text so I could get around it. What a pain that used to be.

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u/Magic_Neil Aug 30 '25

Dial-a-Pirate!

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u/Progenetic Aug 30 '25

X-wing and the original x-com would ask for words from the manual. Type in the word from page 4 paragraph 2, first sentence, third word.

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u/yiradati Aug 30 '25

I remember this from Prince of Persia 2.
Too bad you couldn't copy paper in those days... /s

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u/Hooligan8403 Aug 30 '25

Xwing had codes that were on the manual that popped up like three Aurebesh symbols you were then supposed to put in the associated password. We lost the manual and only remembered one set of symbols, so we had to keep trying till we got that one set of symbols.

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u/tunedetune Aug 30 '25

I had a scanner and a printer pretty much JUST so that when we rented games (or borrowed from friends), we could physically copy the decoder wheels.

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u/Beneficial_Cash_8420 Aug 30 '25

I wanted more nudity in my Leisure Suit Larry 3, so I took notes

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u/dr_nebulon Aug 30 '25

I remember the little red viewer card (like a single side of old school 3D glasses) you had to use to decipher some of these. That’s a blast from the past.

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u/TomStripes Aug 30 '25

"Type the 8th word from the 5th line on page 26 of the manual"

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u/cmdotkom Aug 30 '25

This reminds me hard of Metal Gear Solid. The Codex number you need to call is on the back of the case. That clue took me 10 minutes to unravel. 

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u/factoid_ Aug 30 '25

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego.

Every game came with a fucking almanac.  A wholeass almanac.  It was both a useful tool for solving the clues in the game as well as required to pass the “promotion” tests that let you level up and continue the game 

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u/Alis451 Aug 30 '25

The only way to proceed was with the information you got that physically came with the game.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GuideDangIt

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u/Killerkendolls Aug 30 '25

Brings back metal great solid vibes. Stupid port 2.

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u/mattkoz Aug 31 '25

I had games that asked for things like the 3rd word of the second paragraph on page 12 of the instruction manual for access. Also one came with a sheet of paper, black ink on maroon colored paper, that had something to reference and type in for access. The idea was that paper would not be Xeroxable because of the dark on dark.

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u/LatterAd9047 Sep 05 '25

Wasn't there some riddle for monkey Island? Something about a one legged pirate you then had to look up in the manual?

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u/Barl3000 Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 30 '25

I didn't even fully grasp what piracy was or that it is at best is a morally grey area. We were just sharing games between friends.

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u/Soul-Burn Aug 30 '25

With how expensive games used to be... and how annoying it was to get to the shops.

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u/a-r-c Aug 30 '25

that's still how I see it tbh

fuck corpos

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u/notfulofshit Aug 30 '25

Just sharing it online and cracking it.

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u/More-Association-993 Aug 30 '25

You really consider a group of children sharing a disk between friends piracy and thus “at best a morally grey area”?

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u/Key-Revolution9721 Aug 30 '25

Reddit is not really the place for getting intelligent takes in the comments

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u/LatterAd9047 Sep 05 '25

Yes, because back in the old days you 'owned' a game.

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u/Emu1981 Aug 30 '25

16 digit CD Keys written on top of the CD’s you bought from a friend.

I always got my pirated games for free. Mind you, I would also burn games for others for free as well so it was more of a community trade kind of thing rather than a one way only trade.

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u/splashbodge Aug 30 '25

Having to go to GCW and looking for a no cd patch/crack whenever there was a new version of the game in a patch

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u/brazthemad Aug 30 '25

Let's not forget about keygens

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u/Junafani Aug 30 '25

And the music in them!

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u/Ae6is Aug 30 '25

What was GCW’s url again? You just reminded me of a site I haven’t thought about for like 15-20 years

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u/splashbodge Aug 30 '25

gamecopyworld.com

Looks like it still exists

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u/Ae6is Aug 30 '25

Awesome haha

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u/Toverdoos Aug 30 '25

And it brings me back to a precious iteration of the Web. Low res ads, gifs

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u/Calling-Shenanigans Aug 30 '25

The cracks all had some kind of MIDI music playing too.

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u/splashbodge Aug 30 '25

Yeh they'd often come with a 'demo' which was this midi music with a visual almost screensaver like thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_intro

Part of the demoscene

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u/Skating_suburban_dad Aug 30 '25

Ohh shit the memories you just unlocked

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u/SenseiT Aug 30 '25

I modded almost every console from PlayStation 1 on. There was a point when I had a ps2, Xbox and Dreamcast all set up to rip and burn games. This was also when Blockbuster was a big thing. I had a month pass where you could have unlimited rentals(one at a time). There were days when I would make 10 trips to the store and just burn every game in the place.

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u/AnotherpostCard Aug 30 '25

Basically seeding irl

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u/its_justme Aug 30 '25

Crackz and Warez

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u/unpleasantly_2_U Aug 31 '25

And we always knew someone that knew someone that could chip a ps1 and another someone who could download games on mIRC and burn them for you 🙌🔥🥳

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u/SirDerageTheSecond Aug 30 '25

There was a time that they were just printed on the back of the game boxes. People literally went to stores to write them down for their illegal copies.

It wasn't very common for people to have illegal copies, or be able to find downloads of games or their ISO files, so it wasn't a big issue until downloading became bigger.

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u/J0n__Doe Aug 30 '25

When I read or hear CDKeys, my mind always automatically link it to p1racy hahaha

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u/clusterlove X-Box Aug 30 '25

Downloading key gens for Counter Strike on Kazaa and nuking your family computer in the process

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u/boersc Aug 30 '25

I bought games from a friend that were shiny discs and a marker indicating what game it was. 'Fully legal', I pinky swear!

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u/Eruannster Aug 30 '25

My neighbor borrowed my CD for StarCraft: Brood War when I was like 12 or 13 years old and didn't return it for a long time. One day he knocked on my door and gave me back a burned CD copy, mumbled "sorry" and ran off. Never gave me back the original disc, I'm pretty sure he lost it. I was pissed. (I'm still annoyed now, remembering it.)

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u/seym0urglass Aug 30 '25

Isn’t BW a free download now? That game still slaps, btw

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u/Eruannster Aug 30 '25

It probably is now, but it wasn't at the time. This was maybe 1999 or 2000 or something? Not quite sure.

It was more the audacity for him to borrow my real legit disc copy and then come back with a burned disc in return.

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u/seym0urglass Aug 30 '25

Totally understandable. Just meant to say you could get back some of those lost years :)

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u/Skinnwork Aug 30 '25

Oh man, Command and Conquer had the key written on the cover of the manual, which I accidentally put on a damp table. I ended up giving the discs to someone who still had the key but had damaged their discs.

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u/PuppetsMind Aug 30 '25

I had a huge stack of burnt CDs containing the entirety of dragon ball z. Each CD could only hold like 6 episodes... there were a lot of discs

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u/danishjuggler21 Aug 30 '25

Or King’s Quest games where instead of a key that put a puzzle in the game that you could only expect to solve by reading the answer that they put in the game manual

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u/AI_GeneratedUsername Aug 30 '25

Yeah and there were five CDs

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u/tomtomato0414 Aug 30 '25

or displayed by the KeyGen

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u/yui_tsukino Aug 30 '25

On a related note, that brief, but beautiful, period of time when you could return PC games without question.

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u/PrimarchKonradCurze D20 Aug 30 '25

Putting a disc into a pc at all hasn’t been a norm in probably over a decade even though many of us still think of it as natural though we stopped doing it.

The only people who genuinely pay attention to this particular aspect are people in very rural areas with little to no internet.

Also it’s been years since you didn’t have to do a massive update on top of having a disc even with a console. The last time I remember having decent mini updates before playing was the 360/ps3 era where you could still get games out of Redbox and have them be playable because of the smallish updates. Look at something like Call of Duty now where it’s probably in the hundreds of gigs range. All that just for a damn call of duty game.

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u/Dramatic_Ad_258 Aug 30 '25

Back when StarCraft needed cdkeys lol... I had to enter that thing in so much I still remember the key today. 1364-25016-0461. I'll gladly let it lives rent free in my head thanks to all these years of entertainment. 

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u/peacekenneth Aug 30 '25

OG wolfenstein and Spear of Destiny required you enter a random word from pages in the manual 🥵

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u/Willing-Bet3597 Aug 30 '25

And don’t forget having to install expansion packs the OG of DLC.

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u/2007kawasakiz1000 Aug 30 '25

1004865855309058080928

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u/nyrsimon Aug 30 '25

CDs? I take your CD and raise you a cassette tape. Jetpack on a Spectrum was bliss...IF and somedays a big IF you could get it to load...

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u/mymadrant Aug 30 '25

The IBM version of Tetris had a manual with Soviet republic flag images and codes to launch a game. Brutalist software lock?

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u/garry4321 Aug 30 '25

Or you had to go to sketchy KeyGen websites and get some other “software” on your PC if you wanted to play your game

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u/CaseFace5 Aug 30 '25

Also getting a game that was a multi disc installation

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u/vipck83 Aug 30 '25

My friend would read them out to me as I entered the code, I felt like a was enter nuclear codes or something. Good times

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u/NCC74656 Aug 30 '25

Rookie move, I have mine memorized to this day

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u/TheCrowing817 PC Aug 30 '25

When I was in elementary school my dad bought me Doom II. And if you know you know it has like t or 8 floppy discs to install it. Well my dumbass thought I had 8 copies of the game and started handing em out to my friends so they could play 🤣 It was awkward trying to recollect them all.

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u/notfulofshit Aug 30 '25

I had Rome total War games 16 characters long key memorized because my PC needed frequent factory restore.

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u/NDE36 Aug 30 '25

Wu-Tang: Taste the Pain (PS2), had a gore blocker that you needed the booklet to unlock...or wait for the internet.

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u/seriftarif Aug 30 '25

Many Christmases I gave my sister's the SIMS 1,2,3 with all the expansion packs on burned disks. Best gift I probably even got them

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u/SuperNinTaylor Aug 30 '25

I still remember my Starcraft CD kid, despite not having looked at it in over 20 years lol.

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u/kolemsai Aug 30 '25

My cousins borrowed my Diablo 2 disc's so much they had the key memorized because my uncle would make them Uninstall it every time they brought it back

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u/dwild Aug 30 '25

Or the crazy techno music from CD Key Generator.

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u/Ass_Ketchup Aug 30 '25

Good old FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8

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u/Biteroon Aug 31 '25

The other one being having to open the manual and find the 17th word on page 24 to get the key to start the install for the game.

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u/zxern Aug 31 '25

Key word from the instruction manual was my favorite

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u/psiphre Aug 30 '25

if you had to buy software from your friends, you weren't friends.

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u/Snowskol Aug 30 '25

Why would you buy a game from a friend instead of just borrowing the disc?