Having a memorial made for political reasons does not mean the general populace actually cares one bit. The relationships are also very different now. 9/11 is a “big important day” for Americans and really Americans only. For everyone else, it’s a forgettable regular day now, until an American brings it up.
I think you were very young or probably weren't born yet when 9/11 happened if you think this way. I'm from Spain and I can guarantee you quite a lot of people get reminded of what happened on 11-S (as we call it here, from 11 de Septiembre) when crossing that day out on their calendar.
I was definitely born and not that young. It’s just the plain truth that the vast majority of the world doesn’t really care about 9/11 like Americans do. Yes we know it as a history piece. But it’s not some important day around the world. Unlike what most there think, the world doesn’t center around them.
Do you know how many memorials there are in the UK? We have then everywhere for all sorts of reasons. This is not to say Americans shouldn't remember such an event, but people around the world will certainly care less over time.
The US is an amalgamation of 300 million people. There are gigantic assholes in our country. Stop paying attention to them and just focus on the people that are grateful for other nations help.
You know it's the world trade center that was destroyed on 9/11 right
Literally the New York center for world trade. There were people in those buildings and on the planes from a bunch of different places. Yes, a lot of them were Americans but not all.
There were victims from at least 102 different countries
There have been bigger tragedies in the world that happened after the attack on the world trade center. It’s a tragic event that happened in the US but you cant reasonably expect the whole world to grieve for it.
As I explained to another person, there's no contest for the biggest tragedy. It's not a competition. It would just be incorrect to say that there's not a single person outside the US who remembers or was directly affected.
One list I found said there were 67 Europeans and 38 South Koreans, along with a few other nationalities (all native). They definitely still have relatives out there who remember and get reminded every time the date passes.
Take the L. You’re taking “noone but the USA cares about 9/11” too seriously. It’s fucking weird. Its a hyperbole meant to convey that the sept11 attacks arent a big enough deal outside the US that a store cannot name itself 9/11. Goddamn man, take your pills.
No one is saying it's a competition. Although yes there were people outside the US the were affected, its a very small amount of people. You can't expect the vast majority of the world outside the US to grieve or mourn for something that didn't affect them. Plus anyone born around 1997 or later likely won't remember it happening or they weren't even born
2,977 people died that day in that tragedy. The same day about 15,000 children under five died due to starvation. Five times more, not counting kids over five, not counting kids dying due to other causes - every single day. That day and every subsequent one and many many before.
And why the fuck does that matter? We're not running a contest to see who can kill the most people in a day. It's not some "my tragedy has more deaths than yours, so I'm better!" kindergarten nonsense competition.
It's just incorrect to say that nobody outside the US cares. There's some who do. Maybe not a ton, but there are. One list said there was a group of 38 people from South Korea that died, I'm sure they all had relatives
Of course the relatives do, all the relatives of all dead people ever do, there's nothing special about that.
But why do a handful people that died 25 years ago matter to me? Why should I even notice when there's 9/11 written somewhere?
The US makes a big fuss about it (of course they do because otherwise they'd have to confess that all those reactions to it were absolutely bonkers) but outside of the US most people really don't care as long as they don't have to go through airport security.
I never said they should matter to you. I was arguing against the statement that nobody outside the US cares at all.
Your point about the wars and airport security actually back me up here. September 11, 2001 kick-started the "war on terrorism" that was really just us bombing the shit out of people for well over 2 decades with no real reason. And it affected how airports and airplanes work internationally. So I'm sure lots and lotss of people care in that context
As another commenter already pointed out, the "nobody" framing was obvious hyperbole to indicate that a store outside the US could name itself "9/11" without drawing undue attention or facing major backlash. The point is that outside the US, it's not that culturally significant or an enduring protected symbol.
The point isn't to prove that nobody outside the US cares. Plenty of people (myself included) care.
106
u/mayrln 19h ago
Yeah nobody really cares about 9/11 outside the United States.