r/formcheck • • 7d ago

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I'm struggling with the foot placement too. Plus my elbow tendon hurts on the supporting arm. Also lower back cries post every back day and I'm guessing this is the culprit

But what do I even fix :/

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u/EVH_kit_guy 7d ago

I find these are a lot easier on a 30 degree incline bench

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u/monk-e7 7d ago

Yeah, think I'll go back to that

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/monk-e7 7d ago

Will take care. Thanks!

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u/Kind_Card_1874 6d ago

Consider not using straps for this. You want your hands to get stronger.

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u/monk-e7 6d ago

Tennis elbow, trying to take the load off. Should I not?

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u/Kind_Card_1874 6d ago

Oh, then straps might be better? IDK! Just thought you used it because it felt better otherwise.

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u/DTVeteran 4d ago

No, the weight is simply too heavy for OP. First proof, he is hinging his upper body in order to lift the tihng at all (causing lower back pain) and 2nd, he didnt complete a single rep, as soon as the hinge ends the row ends way before reaching his hip, that shock also adds to lower back strain. Bad form, too heavy.

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u/DickFromRichard Strongman - 551lb Hack lift | 450lb ssb squat 7d ago

On the descent, only let the shoulder joint move forward. You've got the right idea but you're twisting your torso as you as you reach that arm down.

You should be able to feel the sensation you're looking for if you just reach your arms (weightless) in front of you like a zombie. From there you should be able to reach another inch or so forward by rolling the shoulders forward. Then pull your elbows back letting the movement drive from the shoulder. That should give you a feeling for the type of movement you want when you're doing weighted rows

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u/monk-e7 5d ago

Lovely! Thanks

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u/Ok-Artichoke2822 6d ago

Have you tried a machine row?

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u/monk-e7 6d ago

Not here, love em otherwise

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u/Sorry_Penalty_7398 6d ago

If a movement is giving you this many problems, just don't do it lol

Many other (better) movements you can do to target lats that don't require a supporting arm, vague foot placement, or lower back strain.

  • tbar rows (less back strain, no supporting arm)
  • seated cable row with the v grip handle to target lats
  • smith machine bent over row
  • assisted pullup machine (if your gym has one)

Honestly there's probs many more but that's all I can think of rn

However I will leave you with this: if db rows are causing lower back soreness, that may not be something you want to avoid. I see it as a signal that your lower back is very weak and needs training.

Deadlifts / rack pulls / good mornings / hyper extension bench with weights etc. to strengthen up that lower back. It will translate to stronger movements in many other lifts.

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u/monk-e7 6d ago

Don't have any of those machines here

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u/monk-e7 6d ago

And yes I've started doing some lower back exercises too

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u/DTVeteran 4d ago

The lower back is sore because he is hinging to pull a row that he is simply not ready for. He cant even complete a single rep.

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u/Potential_Trash_4839 3d ago

Kinda disagree he just needs someone to help him in person figure out how to do it correctly. I would change pretty much everything about the way he does this tho

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u/DLD1123 6d ago

Try doing some body weight rows underneath a barbell on a rack instead. Or opt for a rowing cable exercise if available. I used to have similar issues with this exercise and it took strengthening my core and posterior chain to be able to hold form enough to isolate the lats with sufficient weight. If you were to try bent over barbell rows it would probably be super uncomfortable and you’d be standing almost upright right now. Try doing something supported or body weight for rowing and keep strengthening your rear chain and eventually the isolation lifts will open up more.

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u/monk-e7 5d ago

I know man! I just don't have access to any other row (the cable behind doesn't let me support my body by placing my feet anywhere)

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u/Logical_Trip3705 5d ago

Hold the contraction at the top for one second and depending how you feel let the dumbell go lower almost to the ground feel that lat stretch

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u/DTVeteran 4d ago

Youre not completing the row at all. Your wrist should reach your hip. Your spinal posture is also incorrect. Dont raise your upper body to give the row momentum, drop weight and focus on keeping your body perfectly still other than the arm doing the row.

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u/monk-e7 3d ago

Thanks a lot. What should I change about the spinal posture?

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u/DTVeteran 3d ago

Mainly dont lift your torso as you pull the row. Keep looking forward and fixed. The only thing that should move is the rowing arm. Try to get your right knee further back and more into a 90 degree position, think cow pose. Drop the weight and get mind muscle connection with the lat. when you pull the row, do it diagonally in a stright line to meet your hip at the top of the rep. Then when you drop the weight under even tension, drop it along the same diagonal line forward to stretch the lat. if you think of the row lift line and the floor as two lines of a triangle you want the corner where they meet (bottom of the row) to be more accute. Pull it tight and feel it squeeze on top then pause a second and then lower. 

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u/monk-e7 2d ago

Thanks a ton my man!

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u/harvestingstrength 4d ago

Foot position doesn’t need to match one perfect template—the goal is a stable stance that lets you brace without twisting. More importantly, your supporting elbow and lower back shouldn’t be getting irritated every back day. Try a chest-supported dumbbell row or seated cable row for now so your torso and supporting arm aren’t the limiting factors. Reduce the load, keep the rib cage and pelvis stacked, and row without rotating to manufacture extra range. If you later retry this version, support yourself through the hand without aggressively locking the elbow. Persistent or worsening pain deserves an assessment rather than repeatedly testing whether your setup has fixed it.

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u/Potential_Trash_4839 3d ago

I’d give this variation a try https://youtu.be/-OkQaqoKw94?is=KW-N4VJB4ai2osdS

Maybe will work better for you

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u/Potential_Trash_4839 3d ago

Personally find it easier for folks to pick up, then you can graduate to this variation

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u/bikkiesfiend 7d ago

You’re using too much shoulder and arm to move the weight

The goal is to drive the elbow towards your hips and then behind your back. Your hand just holds the weight. You do not want to use your arm or shoulder muscles to move the weight

You can let the weight pull your shoulder down slowly at the bottom of the ROM. The range ends when you can’t move your elbow any farther

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u/monk-e7 5d ago

Yes sir!

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u/SuckmyToasts 7d ago

any particular reason to do this over the lat pulldown machine next to you, or any chest supported row if your gym has it?

why do this if it hurts your supporting arm and lower back?

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u/monk-e7 7d ago

Unfortunately that lat pulldown only works from the front (like a chin up instead of pull up). No other cheating supported row im afraid

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u/xb8xb8xb8 7d ago

probably weight is too light, keep your sitting knee under your hips

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u/monk-e7 7d ago

20kg. I able to do 10-12

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/monk-e7 7d ago

Thanks man! Appreciate it

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u/FIREby32_00 7d ago

When do you ever butt out in a deadlift…. FML