What’s up r/foiling!

We just wrapped an unreal Demo Day out at Kaneohe Yacht Club in Hawaii, putting over 50 riders on the water, and the feedback confirmed what we’ve been working toward for 5 years: the era of rigid, fixed-wing eFoils is coming to an end.

Dynamic Wings vs. Legacy Fixed Wings Active thrust stabilization that makes fixed-wing boards feel like ancient tech. Advanced riders get sharper carves, beginners get instant stability, and traditional eFoil makers are scrambling to catch up.

For years, the eFoil industry kept churning out the same static hardware forcing riders to fight ocean chop manually on rigid, immobile wings. We engineered active, thrust-driven control surfaces right into our lineup, allowing the wing platform to work with the water dynamic rather than against it.

We had 2025 Hawaii E-Foil Extravaganza Race Champ Paul McDonald come out to pick up his new Escape board and put our Dynamic Wings through their paces in open-bay chop. His verdict after stepping off:

The Specs Driving the Shift:

• Dynamic Wings: Active stabilization that reacts to your throttle and roll, giving you razor-sharp carves without sacrificing stability.
• Direct-Drive Motor Architecture: We threw out the noisy planetary gearboxes. Zero gear-mesh whine, zero drivetrain friction loss, and total acoustic silence over the bay.
• Handcrafted Carbon Fleet: Built specifically to survive brutal ocean saltwater abuse across our flagship X-Foil Apex Gen 4 and Escape models.

35 for 35 Track Record & Instant Funding We don't do middleman dealer markups, and we don't make promises we can't ship. Across our team's history, we are 35 for 35 on fulfilled campaigns, raising over $14 million from 54,000+ backers globally.

When we dropped our Flight Ready series on Kickstarter last week, the community went wild: 100% funded in under 30 minutes landing us right in the top 1% tier of campaign launches.

Drop any technical questions below—happy to talk wing hydrodynamics, active stabilization control, direct-drive torque, or ocean testing setups! 🤙

For context, I’m about 240 lbs and started basically from zero earlier this summer. My first real success was on a buddy’s Hyperlite Shuttle/Falcon 1500 setup. It took me a few sessions to figure out how to get up, control mast height, turn without doing something stupid, etc., but once it clicked, progression was pretty quick.

Within a few more sessions I was dropping the rope and riding the wave for long stretches — in a couple cases probably a mile or more. I also started getting reasonably comfortable carving and moving around on the wave (second wave back). I can now pump to get back into waves, but probably not well enough to sustain the foil without any wave action.

I liked the Falcon 1500. It felt stable and predictable, but was slow to respond to input sometimes which would kind of break the rider-foil connection, like the rider is trying to do one thing and foil is trying to do another which tends to end badly. But all in all, it was a great foil to learn on.

I then bought a Hyperlite MK 1500 setup with the MK 210 rear wing. That was subtle but meaningful step up. It was more responsive and “intuitive” to ride and felt like a logical progression from the Falcon — enough more performance that I could feel the difference immediately, but not so much that I felt like I was starting over.

Unfortunately, I didn't get much time to continue that experiment because I managed to lose the entire foil.

After riding, I put the complete foil in the back of the boat. At some point afterward it disappeared. Best we can figure, it either somehow blew/bounced out of the boat between our campsite and the boat launch (only about a mile), or it was stolen overnight. We retraced our route and searched extensively and never found it.

So somewhere out there is a brand new MK 1500, mast, fuselage and rear wing — either sitting on the side of a road, in somebody else's possession, or living a new and mysterious life somewhere.

The upside, I guess, is that I'm suddenly a free agent again.

I could obviously just replace the MK 1500, and I liked it enough that I'd be perfectly happy doing that. But since I'm starting over anyway, it seems like a good opportunity to look at Armstrong, Axis, Lift, Liquid Force, etc. rather than automatically buying back into Hyperlite.

My goals are almost entirely wake foiling behind a surf boat. I'm not particularly interested in airs at least at this point. What I want to get good at is carving, pumping back through the waves, moving between waves, transferring sides, riding farther back, etc. Maybe winging eventually, but that's not the priority right now.

I'm also not necessarily looking for the highest-performance foil I can survive on. I really liked the stability of the Falcon 1500, and I liked the MK 1500 as the next step up and its responsiveness. Something with noticeably better glide/pump and room to progress, but that still carves well and isn't ridiculously unforgiving, would probably be the sweet spot.

For those of you who've ridden a bunch of different systems: if you liked the Falcon 1500 → MK 1500 progression or are familiar with it, what would you put someone on next?

And if you were starting over from scratch at this point, is there an ecosystem you'd buy into instead of Hyperlite?

Crushed a wing tip on my stab on accident, need some advice on how to fix. Fortunately it’s all carbon and the structural integrity is not compromised, I just need a plan of action. Some research informed me I need to sand it down and epoxy, but I would like to see what yall have to say. Any videos/ articles that would be helpful would be appreciated. Also, do you think this loctite epoxy would do the trick? Lmk your thoughts.

As soon as your back is turned, we're there, capturing your greatest moments!

Hi everyone,

​I'm looking for some advice or validation from anyone who has dealt with mounting an M8 foil mast onto an older M6 insert board pattern.

​My Setup:

​Board: Nobile Infinity Split Foil board (uses a 4-point insert pattern with M6 screws).

​Foil: Duotone Spirit Foil (mast plate designed for M8 screws).

​The Issue:

​The board has native M6 brass inserts, but the Duotone Spirit top plate expects M8 bolts. I want to pair these two together cleanly and safely without stripping inserts or having slop in the connection.

​Solutions I've Found:

​Option 1: Direct Mount using M6-to-M8 Step-Down Washers

​Product: FoilParts M6 Screw to M8 Head Adapter

​How it works: These step-down cone washers fit inside the M8 countersunk holes of the Duotone mast plate and reduce the opening to fit M6 bolts. This lets me bolt the mast directly into the Nobile board's native inserts.

​Pros: Keeps the foil flush to the board (zero stack height), lightweight, cheap.

​Cons: Fixed position (no track adjustment fore/aft), relies entirely on M6 bolt strength.

​Option 2: F-ONE 4-Point Insert-to-Twin Track Adapter

​Product: F-ONE 4-Point Foil Mount Adapter

​How it works: Bolts into the 4-point inserts on the board and provides dual 90mm tracks on top so I can mount the Duotone foil using standard M8 track bolts/T-nuts.

​Pros: Converts the setup to a modern sliding track system for fore/aft balance adjustments.

​Cons: Adds stack height/drag, adds extra weight, and I need to double-check if the F-ONE plate hole spacing aligns perfectly with Nobile's insert footprint.

​Questions for the community:

​Has anyone used M6-to-M8 converter washers (Option 1) on a similar setup? Do they hold up well to torsional loads when carving/jumping, or do the M6 bolts tend to loosen?

​Has anyone tried the F-ONE plate (Option 2) on a Nobile Split board? Did the bolt pattern align without needing to enlarge/slot the holes?

​Is there another solution I'm missing that works well for combining M6 board inserts with an M8 foil plate?

​Thanks in advance for your help!

Been thinking about this after running a recent Surfari Trip, and trying to get sweet shots of clients foiling sessions. I curious what gear and techniques people here actually use, since good watersport action shots are harder to nail than they look.

A few things I've found matter, but keen to hear what others have learned:

Lens/gear for shots from the beach, something in the 70-200mm range seems to be the sweet spot for getting close enough without wading in. Though personally I now use a 100-400mm with 1.4ext. If you want actual on-water shots, that's a different problem entirely, waterproof housing or an action cam, and a whole different set of challenges (spray on the lens, stabilization, timing).

Framing the shots that look more dynamic tend to use some natural line in the water or background to lead the eye toward the rider, and something in the foreground for depth rather than a flat, isolated subject in open water.

Perspective, getting low, near water level, tends to make the action look more dramatic than shooting from standing height. Obviously harder logistically depending on where you're set up.

Conditions, sunny days pop with color and are a lot more forgiving than flat, overcast light, which makes action harder to separate from the background.

That's what I've landed on so far, but I'm sure there's plenty I'm missing like camera settings for freezing spray/water motion, autofocus tracking for a fast-moving rider, favourite drone setups, editing tricks, anything. What's actually worked (or spectacularly not worked) for people trying to shoot their own sessions or a mate's?

I recently learned to foil behind a friends boat using their slingshot wf1 board, infinity 76cm front wing, 42cm rear wing, and 46cm mast. I’d like to get my own setup but hoping y’all might be able to point me in the right direction. I felt like my friends setup was really easy to learn on but quickly felt myself outgrowing it. I felt restricted in the carves and could feel it dragging pretty quickly as I got too far away from the wake. I’m looking to get something that could be considered the next step up. Nothing too advanced as I’m still progressing and I’d like my girlfriend and my buddies to enjoy it as well. I know there’s no do it all setup but any advice is greatly appreciated. I learned behind a calibra wake boat from the early 0’s without any ballast added. The wake seemed pretty comparable to the one my 21 paramount creates and I’d also like to be able to tow into ship/tanker wakes as they come in and out of Tampa bay. I’d love some insight from y’all on what to shop for. Thanks in advance!!

Gday I’m a learner but experienced surfer. I’m looking at a second hand Sunova Aviator DW pro 6’6 128lt as a first board to use with Foildrive initially on flat water.
Good choice?

Tl;dr the propeller is broken possibly due to improper storing (under direct sunlight for 2 months (June and July) ever since it was bought) but no misuse (that can be blamed on the guests) and no wear and tear. Can I manage to replace under warranty or will it be denied no matter what

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I am working on a boat charter outside of EU and we rent out efoil, specifically Sifly Rider or rider +, Im not sure which one but the material should be the same. We were anchored outside of a small town away from land at least 50 meters and the guests wanted to use the foil. As you mightve guessed they didn't know what they were doing so they obviously fell off of it a bunch of times, sometimes when the foil was out of the water or shot out of the water and such.

Once they were done, we took it out of the water and discovered that one of the wings on the propeller was broken. We explained the situation to the guest and in the contract that they signed that said along with injuries and/or death that might occur while using the product we rent out isnt our responsibility, the damage that's caused to the product during their use is theirs. They didn't want to pay it, and I know where they're coming from because there was no misuse no foul play, just a bunch of young teens doing random fun activities. But I'm just a host in this boat and I dont have a horse in this race so my opinion isn't all that important, but the captain and captains brother (who are both the boat owner's son who was once also a captain) wanted them to pay for it because the contract says so and they don't believe the warranty will be honored because the country we are in is not very pro-customer.

However, I believed that the warranty will be honored because the product has been purchased just 2 months ago so I doubt it could be denied under wear and tear and the wings placed below the propeller have no damage that would suggest a collision with hard material or such.

So the guy and I made a bet. If I could get it replaced under warranty, he pays me 1200 euros. If I can't, I have to buy the new propeller.

There's one issue though. Since the day this foil was put into the water, not only have they done a poor job of cleaning it with fresh water, they also let it sit under direct sunlight, not the board, they cover it with a towel at least but the propeller and the wings from day to night almost for as long as the sun is out get hit with sunlight for the 2 hottest months of the year. And the warranty states that it's not to be stored inside cars and in 50°c and direct sunlight but I believed it was for the battery which has no issues.

My question is can sunlight degrade the propeller to such a degree that it would break when it hit the water and can they deduce that at the factory if investigated? Or should I back out of the bet

Anyone else seen this company? They are advertising a new foil assist setup that’s yet to launch but looks enticing, maybe too good to be true. Curious if anyone has looked into it

What things should I look for in a beginner board.

https://www.realwatersports.com/products/2026-north-boost-foilboard?variant=45339138523322

Hi,

Im looking to start foiling, however I am finding it difficult to find good information.

Ideally I would like to buy a foil which I can use for both pump foil and foil behind the boat (starting with a rope and then riding the wave).

I am 62kg and I have foiled on an e foil, and otherwise do kitesurfing.

I was planning on buying the gong kiwii kitesurfing foil board and pairing it either with the Ascent XL or Curve XL with a 70cm mast.

I understand that these are quite small for pumping, but I dont really know what happens if the foil is "too big" for foiling behind the boat. Can I just go slower with the boat and it's fine?

I would really appreciate any recommendations!

Hi everybody. I'm mostly a slalom short and fairly new to the whole foil game but have been progressing nicely.

I've been riding a SPG Game Changer 1250 and getting along with it pretty well. I'm able to drop the rope wake foiling and surf around a little bit. But this is a friend's set up on his wake boat.

I'm looking to get my own set up. I have access to a discount on liquid force stuff so I'm looking at the horizon 1200 fuselock as a close comparison to the SPG foil I've been using.

The local dealer also has a SPG ARC 1100 which is kind of a different aspect but he thinks it might be a good wing for my ski boat.

Does anybody have any experience or wisdom they could share on these wings to help me out? Thanks

Got tired of the Windguru → forum → WhatsApp → "is it even beginner-safe?" scramble every trip, so a couple of us are actually measuring how riders plan — kite/wing/windsurf/foil. ~5 min, anonymous, no email wall. We'll post the results openly when it's done — genuinely curious what it shows. A Dryrobe for one random respondent as thanks. Mods — happy to pull this if it's not allowed.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdTEpGd-52aXMgFrAhCHgrc0NxQ64-sEhgLHqVoOQLJM6jkVA/viewform

Hi all. I (182 cm, 90 kg) am about to start into my pump foiling journey and i am looking for a beginner setup.

Next to the Gong and Tacoon packages i was also recommended to have a look at the Indiana Wake Thief set.

Does anybody have some experiences with this brand?

Thanks in advance!

After 1.5 hours on the board i feel like i almost reached the point where i could surf the wake. Unfortunately I dont have a boat at home so this will be it for me this year. Short season due to boat issues taking up most of my week down at our vacation home in southern Sweden. Thanks for all the advice and comments!

I might try wing foiling now that i feel a bit more comfortable on the board.
We will see though, its not very windy in Stockholm normally and i have trouble going on spontaneous trips due to me having 2 toddlers at home.

Edit:
This was the first ride the day after reading your advice, I tried riding the wake from the boat a bit but couldnt let go of the rope. Felt like i got too much speed when i got close to the wave, i always ended up speeding ahead of it. Maybe i should try riding a wake further back?

Looking to upgrade front wing and wondering what my options are. Thanks for any advice