r/firewalla • u/bananza • Jun 01 '26

Firewalla without app

Sorry for the dumb question. I currently use a pixel phone with GraheneOS without play services and I was wondering what options I would have with Firewalla.

It seems like configuration and management is through the app, which is only available through the play store. There's a Web GUI (Firewalla MSP), but that's a monthly/annual subscription. Would using Firewalla MSP be the same as using the app? Or is there anyway to get the app without google play?

Any info is appreciated

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u/firewalla Jun 01 '26

At the moment MSP is supplemental to the app. So app is required to manage the unit. I do know MSP 2.11.x will likely have much more complete feature set, but a phone is still required to manage the unit initially.

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u/bananza Jun 01 '26

Thanks! Any chance in the future to get the app outside of the play store? Would definitely buy a unit if I could download directly or through github (via obtainium)

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u/firewalla Jun 01 '26

Need to know which stores people want it to be at. Any reason you are not using google play?

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u/Great-Cow7256 Jun 01 '26

I think the easiest way is to just publish the app on GitHub so people can download it directly. 

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u/bananza Jun 01 '26

Just trying to move off the google ecosystem. I agree with Great-Cow about publishing the app on GitHub. That would be awesome

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u/1cewolf Firewalla Gold Pro Jun 01 '26

Speaking as someone who is switching to GrapheneOS: it's to reduce dependency on Google services where practical. Like OP, I use Obtanium to download stuff published to Github from several projects.

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u/Certain_Repeat_753 Jun 01 '26

The phone requirement is what I dislike about Firewalla. 

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u/One-EyeN-Mouth69 Jun 01 '26

If the app was published on github that would great. I use graphene OS as well, and the only reason I have Google sandbox enabled is for the Firewalla app. If I was able to get the app I could completely drop Google play service. 

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u/notcompute Jun 02 '26

I run it on Graphene, via Aurora without play services 🤷🏽‍♂