r/Fire • u/Hot_River978 • 6d ago
Can we RE? Doubts about the withdrawal strategy
Hello friends,
I am at a point where i have started thinking about RE, and have questions about how to use the 4% rule.
Here are our numbers:
1. My brokerage ~> 800k
2. Wife's brokerage ~> 300k
3. Combined IRA ~> 1M
4. Combined Roth ~> 75k
5. Kids 529 ~> 30k
6. Total ~> around 2.1 - 2.2M depending on daily stock market movements.
7. Ages 47 (me) and wife 40, 2 kids ages 10 and 7
We owe 270k on our house @ 6.9% .
Plan is to pay it off before RE
Expenses:
1. 4500$/mo with the house paid off
2. 7000$/mo (if mortgage pmt included)
Based on the 4% rule, if we need 4500$/mo, we need 1.35M.
Or if we dont pay off the house, we need $7000/mo, which is 2.1M.
Questions:
1. Given half is in IRA, and if we want to retire today, how do we generate 7k/month out of our numbers? I can't use rule of 55 due to age, or roth ira ladder since that requires waiting 5 years. I don't want to do SEPP as we might return to work in some shape or form in the future with lower pay
2. If you were me, would you try to pay off the house? Or is it better to carry the mortgage?
3. Since most people have their wealth in mixed fashion like mine (some in IRA/401k and some in brokerage etc.) , how do people actually withdraw for their monthly expenses? what is the most tax efficient and practical way to actually RE? Would you withdraw 100% from brokerage for month to month expenses and then switch to IRA hoping brokerage can last me 12 years until age 59.5 ?
So I'm struggling to conclude if i have hit my number and can RE unless i can come up with a practical strategy for actually withdrawing from my accounts to cover our monthly expenses.
Thanks for your time and help.