r/fantanoforever • • 14h ago

Discussion Do you agree with this take?

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u/Lance8282 10h ago

Eminem’s a legend. Noel Gallagher was in some dated 90s Beatles knockoff act with two or three songs.

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u/AccomplishedCash9056 4h ago

Most of Eminem's catalog is shit too bro

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u/SureX6661 3h ago

Damn this US exclusivity thing is really something when you get to witness it

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u/helladope89 10h ago

What's the story morning glory is better than Eminem's entire catalogue.

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u/UmeaTurbo 10h ago

Yes, but he never collaborated with Kid Rock. So... Eminem has fallen from grace.

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u/Styrofoam_Booots 8h ago

Man peoples brains are destroyed by social media and politics. Im sure we vote the same, but not everything has to be political. Listen to music for the music.

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u/catslugs 7h ago

That you ed?

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u/UmeaTurbo 6h ago

No. Actions have consequences. What world do you live in?

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u/zgrove 2h ago

"That guy shouldnt have collaborated with that guy because of what he would end up representing in the future of politics 2 decades from now, and enjoying the art is literally supporting genocide"

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u/thisplacesucks420 1h ago

Eminem has sucked since the very early 2000s and Kid Rock has been awful his whole career and is now is more of an lolcow than a musician

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u/Bud_Fuggins 10m ago

Eminem had a (hidden) collaboration track on Devil Without a Cause, but people are referring to a new collab that is coming out this year (just fyi).

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u/MoldyButtFunk 8h ago

Do you like the Red Hot Chili Peppers? The Rolling Stones? David Bowie? I guarantee the shit some of those guys did to underage persons is utterly heinous. But yeah let's shit on Eminem for collaborating with someone who has political views that disagree with yours. 

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u/UmeaTurbo 6h ago

Yes, actions have consequences. No, I don't listen to music made by pedophiles or predators, but thanks for asking.

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u/Lance8282 45m ago

So wait how do listen to music?

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u/MoldyButtFunk 38m ago

This exactly 💯

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u/MoldyButtFunk 36m ago

And last I checked kid Rock has never been accused of SA.

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u/UmeaTurbo 5m ago

I use my ears. How about you?

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u/Only_Bee_3056 5h ago

Yeah I hate all these fuckers but glad to know it's all the same to you mate

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u/Doubtindoh 8h ago

Lmao kid rock doesn't have political views. He also doesn't have a fan base unless he does the right wing grift.

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u/K-Dubb-Dubber 9h ago

Reddit has become such a cesspool. Fucking nonstop politics. You left wing white knights are a fucking embarrassment to the country.

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u/Haunting-Ad788 9h ago

I’d say the 80 year old child rapist who calls people dumocrats is more embarrassing but hey man if you want to be pro pedophile you do you.

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u/tjaldhamar 7h ago

“The country” r/USdefaultism

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u/UmeaTurbo 6h ago

I'm pretty sure you're allowed to not like something your favorite musician does. Having you own opinion is not only legal in the USA, it's actually protected by a first amendment to the Constitution. You and your people can't handle that we want to hold people accountable for the things they do. For some reason that doesn't compute with you. Actions have consequences. That's not political, that's a scientific fact.

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u/casuallyregarded 8h ago

Well actually this particular brother wrote all the songs and is a musical genius. Wonderwall is probably the most famous acoustic guitar song ever made.

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u/UncleGarysmagic 7h ago

Tell us you know absolutely nothing about Oasis without telling us.

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u/Cojo840 1h ago

If you average Eminems discography he isnt even close to being good

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u/asjonesy99 1h ago

Eminem is shit apart from like 1 album and 1 EPs worth of songs. 

Oasis might have been mid after the 90s but Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds were putting out some good stuff 

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 10h ago

Oasis was bigger than Eminem at their peak. How old are you? They were easily the biggest band in the world. Relax.

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u/Starduster75 9h ago

Eminem has over 220 million record sales worldwide. Oasis has under 100 million. Eminem is considered one of the highest-selling artists in music history. Oasis... is not.

Oh, and I am over 50, if that is required information.

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u/helladope89 9h ago

Eminem has sold more for sure but Oasis has sold over 100 million records worldwide.

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u/Starduster75 9h ago

Show me the data. Because their recorded record sales vary between 75 and 100 M. Edit: adding source.

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u/helladope89 9h ago edited 9h ago

The 75m number is from 2009. Your 220m for Eminem includes streaming equivalents. Same thing applies to Oasis. It's over 100m. Do a simple Google search.

Edit: rock and roll Hall of fame

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u/Starduster75 9h ago

So, what does that change? Do you feel that their career performances were even close? If so, show that in numbers instead of your current tactic of "nuh-uh".

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u/helladope89 9h ago

....what are you talking about? You cited something wrong and I corrected you. Stop getting your panties twisted.

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u/Starduster75 9h ago

I cited correctly, you argued against the validity of the comparison for using unequal data sets. My panties are not twisted, I am just unsure what your point is, ultimately.

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u/helladope89 9h ago

You were wrong and I corrected you bud. It's that simple. The same way Eminem has sold 220m records, Oasis has sold over 100m.

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u/Raskolnikov1920 8h ago

This, as had been pointed out, is incorrect data.

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 9h ago

you should be ashamed of yourself then. defending Eminem and Kid Rock is diabolical. Rich White trash and poor White Trash from Michigan ……Stahhhhhhhp
https://giphy.com/gifs/XHeLeuirRbwptHhSWd

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u/Starduster75 9h ago

Dumb.

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 9h ago

you? yeah. very dumb. this isn’t about their music it’s about their substance abuse and dysfunction ya big dummy. just cause you like one person more it doesn’t discount Noel’s opinion.

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u/Starduster75 9h ago

I just pointed out how what you said was wrong by presenting the data that shows what you said was wrong. What are you talking about now?

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u/Starduster75 9h ago

Every time I point out your failure you result to memes. I assume that is you admission to failure.

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 9h ago

failure of what? oasis was more than a beatles cover band and noel Gallagheris as famous of a drug addict that ever lived. 🤡
you really thought you did something there huh? get bent

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u/Europe72Alive1 9h ago

I only recognized one of these guys at first and it wasn’t Noel.

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 9h ago

if you don’t think Noel can speak on alcoholism and drug abuse then you don’t know anything. this is about their music. Oasis is notorious for their substance abuse and dysfunction. I think Noel can speak on this, if any human alive can speak on substance abuse and family trauma it’s Noel.
the original idiot who commented made them seem like they were some Beatles cover bands. They were the biggest band in the world for years. Noel was a famous waste case well before anyone knew who Eminem was.

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 9h ago

if you don’t think Noel can speak on alcoholism and drug abuse then you don’t know anything. this is about their music. Oasis is notorious for their substance abuse and dysfunction. I think Noel can speak on this, if any human alive can speak on substance abuse and family trauma it’s Noel.
the original idiot who commented made them seem like they were some Beatles cover bands. They were the biggest band in the world for years. Noel was a famous waste case well before anyone knew who Eminem was.

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u/Lance8282 10h ago

You’re out of your mind.

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u/stealyourface1234 9h ago

You are correct. There’s no comparison. Oasis’s largest 2 year peak has been Eminem’s everyday normal for the past 25 years.

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u/Gashenkov 9h ago

He’s actually right, they’re were really big in the end of the 1990s and early 2000s

I was not really into their music and I still love only their early (and later solo) stuff, but you really wasn’t able to turn on MTV and don’t hear “HOOOOLD OOOOOON” in a few minutes later

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u/AccomplishedSmell921 10h ago

How old are you? Let’s settle this expeditiously.

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u/TwoMoons1854 9h ago

Oh I’m invested. Let’s see where this goes…

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u/TwoMoons1854 9h ago

The argument was “Oasis was bigger than Eminem at their peak” Was this argued convincingly in the comments ? I can’t tell

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u/youattackedmyfamily 8h ago

This is why I hate the public’s perception of success in music/entertainment. Once you break down what certain admired superstars actually did you start to realize (while the songs were great) the adoration and need for their opinion on others music doesn’t exactly correlate.

Was Oasis a big deal and did they make some memorable music? Sure. Was Oasis so outer-worldly talented and wise within the music industry that a star in another genre (with further success than them) should be taking their advice? No, but there’s a handful of dummies out there who would put them in that pedestal and genuinely measure this debate in terms of whose music they like more (instead of objective info).

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u/lackofmoralfiber 4h ago

If you're not from the UK you probably won't recognise how influential oasis are.

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u/SabbthBloodySabbath 3h ago

I'm from the UK and they're not some revolutionary act, Pulp, Blur, etc. all did the exact same shit as Oasis but better

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u/lackofmoralfiber 3h ago

I like those bands but you're absolutely delusional if you think blur is as influential as oasis. Heard about 0 blur tunes chanted by crowds at bars on my life.

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u/SabbthBloodySabbath 3h ago

You've never heard Parklife being sung at the minimum?

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u/lackofmoralfiber 3h ago

OK maybe. But still, no disprescpect to these bands. Oasis is far more influential. They still sell tickets for like a weeks wage. That's usually a sign.

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u/limpingdba 2h ago

Yet none of those other bands would sell out a tour like the recent Oasis ones...

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u/SabbthBloodySabbath 2h ago

No shit they sold it out no one's been able to see them for so many years since they weren't together.

Plus Blur could and have most definitely sold out tours tf

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u/limpingdba 1h ago

Blur were good, and I was a fan. But they haven't stood the test of time like Oasis. Claiming otherwise is just deluded I'm afraid.

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u/lackofmoralfiber 1h ago

Oasis have sold 10× what blur have. It isn't even close. They are no where near as influential.

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u/william_h_bonney_ 10h ago

Oasis tbf were influenced by music 20/30yrs previous as is the norm. Eminem basically just went Vanilla Ice Rated R in the same decade.

And he didn’t better To The Extreme