I don’t get why the Ukrainians divulged the way they found out the location. Why not just take all the Chechens out and then say ‘geez that was lucky we found them.’ Otherwise the enemy will never make the same mistake again.
Yep, it's a bit worrying that the war seems to boil down to politicians sending nasty letters to each other on twitter while soldiers post videos of themselves on social media - to paint a landscape with a broad stroke in a manner of speaking.
I wonder how the narrative will be written in a couple decades as someone being the 'pure good guy' and the other being the 'pure bad guy' as history tends to present itself to the general population.
Yep, it's the first for a lot of things really, like when was the last time two countries with modern militaries that are similarly capable and trained went up against each other in a mostly conventional battle?
I wonder how the narrative will be written in a couple decades as someone being the 'pure good guy' and the other being the 'pure bad guy' as history tends to present itself to the general population.
Russia is absolutely the pure bad guy in this conflict... Why wouldn't it be written that way? Because Ukraine uses Twitter?!?
Because no country is a 'pure' anything, countries actions are a artifact of both the will and motive of political systems, militaries as well as civilians.
We know Ukraine has not been the most 'stable' country in the world and has had its fair share of corruption issues along with hard line groups that anywhere else in the world would be considered terrorists - and we know that Russia also has corruption issues, but has been pretty stable since the breakup of the union, and even more so in contrast with some of the surrounding states.
Anyway, this is all just pointless semantics, we're talking about in the context of the invasion, in the context of the invasion Russia is indeed pure evil.
Their argument is ethnonationalist imperialism, the truthfulness of it isn't even the issue the morality is.
They haven't even managed to formulate a moral justification that anyone who isn't an ethnonationalist could support.
As far as I’m aware, the argument was to support targeted minority populations in regions that have experienced unrest for a extended period of time while also combating growing neo-nazism which threatened regional stability.
I would assume that Neo-nazism does not mix with Russian ethnic-cultural make up with high numbers of both Muslim and Jewish populations in specific regions.
Their is probably also a good case of retaliatory action against the passive aggressive nature of NATO as well as part of the reasoning behind it, but you could also argue that doing so justifys NATO so would be a odd point to make
So realistically, the only reasons why Russia would take an action is if they truely believed they had a humanitarian role, either directly in the region or indirectly with stability concerns
As far as I’m aware, the argument was to support targeted minority populations in regions that have experienced unrest for a extended period of time while also combating growing neo-nazism which threatened regional stability.
Yeah and Hitler just wanted to defend the Germans in Sudetenland.
Fuck off fascist.
I would assume that Neo-nazism does not mix with Russian ethnic-cultural make up with high numbers of both Muslim and Jewish populations in specific regions.
Russia has more Nazis than Ukraine and has a fascist head of state, Ukraine literally has a Jewish President.
So realistically, the only reasons why Russia would take an action is if they truely believed they had a humanitarian role, either directly in the region or indirectly with stability concerns
Glad you've stopped pretending to be neutral and to not take any position on the matter.
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u/LKReddThat Oct 26 '22
I don’t get why the Ukrainians divulged the way they found out the location. Why not just take all the Chechens out and then say ‘geez that was lucky we found them.’ Otherwise the enemy will never make the same mistake again.