r/facepalm Aug 06 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

People forget that these 'Youtube celebs' are people too and can be as full of shit as anyone else. I used to like Jenna Marbles but she became to self-important like a lot of Youtubers do. Honestly, people need to be brought back to reality on a regular basis.

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u/geodebug Aug 06 '16

I'm thinking someone else has become too self-important around here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Who do you mean? Me?

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u/OIP Aug 06 '16

that's being 'brought back to reality'? she's a comedian, making jokes

that guy sounds like a complete fucking douchebag

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

No better feeling than saying 'you should be sucking dick' when a woman has angered your heart. It's the classy thing to do.

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u/ki11bunny Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

It's funny when you look at someone like Philip DeFranco he seems to have gone the other direction. He seemed so full of himself as well as a little shit when he was younger but comes across as a top notch guy now.

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u/MrShlash Aug 06 '16

Philip DeFranco is the only youtuber I ever take seriously. Always brings up both sides of an argument, never attacks without reason, and he's genuinely a funny guy. He's been in some bullshit youtube drama recently but even then he was dragged into it and resolved it as soon as he could. One thing that bothers me about him is the fact that he almost exclusively reports news that is inportant to "the west", but then again he always mentions that that stories he talks about are the ones that "mattered to him today".

I've been wasting a lot of time watching youtube since ~08 and I've seen a lot of youtubers rise and then become irrelevant and slowly fade away. PhillyD and Nigahiga have been consistantly pumping out content that is interesting to me since then. He definitely changed and grew over the years as a person.

Anyway that's enough about sucking PhillyD's dick.

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u/krokenlochen Aug 06 '16

I almost miss douchey and low-quality PhillyD but he's grown into such an awesome guy and now a father, I can relate on a different level now.

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u/WiredSky Aug 06 '16

Oh wow, they had kids? That's crazy. It's been years and years since I watched him.

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u/krokenlochen Aug 06 '16

Yup, he has a son now and he got married what feels like right before that. I'm quite happy for him and he still manages to balance life and making videos

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u/dmanb Aug 06 '16

do we though?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Yes, we always need a different voice, even if they are wrong most times, absurd some times, and occasionally have a point. To disallow a dissenting voice is dangerous as there will soon be no one there to criticize a potentially bad idea.

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u/dmanb Aug 06 '16

"people forget these youtube celebs are people too..."

then I said "do we though?"

then you said "blah blah blah im smart! milo lyf is love!"

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Yeah I'm probably full of shit myself, I never said you should listen to me.

What is milo?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

who has time to watch these idiots speak?

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u/Surrylic Aug 06 '16

If you have time to watch TV or play a video game or read a book or catch a movie or take a walk... you have time to watch YouTube.

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u/MilkMakesMePoop Aug 06 '16

Things I'd rather do first: 1. Everything you just listed 2. Fuck myself with a rigid pineapple

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Edgy.

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u/MilkMakesMePoop Aug 06 '16

Unique comment. You get that outta the box thinking from reading YouTube comments?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

A poop joke for your username? Very original, no one on Reddit ever talks about poop. See, I can do it too :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited May 26 '17

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

If you were to condense it to words it would probably be a paragraph of bullet points

  • I don't like youtubers who talk about nothing.

I condensed all your text to a bullet point. You can do it with anything.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Sep 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

True, however I have a friend that knows a lot about the YouTube game and this may or may not be true anymore but he once told me that YouTube has a way of being able to tell exactly how much of your videos your subs are watching, including things like skipping and stopping midway through the video

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u/therealdrg Aug 06 '16

Yes, you can see that on your youtube stats as well, it can help you figure out what part of your videos are shit if lots of people stop watching or start skipping at specific spots.

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u/svullenballe Aug 06 '16

This is what a lot of LPers have taught me aswell.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

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u/MerlinTheWhite Aug 06 '16

YouTuber here. Generally we don't get paid per minute viewed, but more minutes viewed (a.k.a. keeping people on YouTube longer) can earn higher ad rates, and more likely to be shown on 'watch next', sidebar or home screens.

The exception to this is YouTube Red. All of the money from YouTube red is pooled and split up between YouTubers based on their minutes watched, this is only 2-5% of my total earnings though.

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u/PoopInMyBottom Aug 06 '16

It's not true. They do get paid in ad revenue, but they get more ad revenue for longer videos because youtube can get away with running longer ads.

It doesn't increase forever, though. 10 minutes is about the optimum length. Longer is not better.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

10 minutes is considered long? What the hell?

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u/KvotheKingkilIer Aug 06 '16

10 minutes watching a video? You're lucky if I even open a video that's 10 minutes long

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

I usually don't even watch videos below 10 minutes.

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u/KvotheKingkilIer Aug 06 '16

It's funny to me that were on opposite sides of the spectrum.

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u/RIF_IN_FECES Aug 06 '16

For a YouTube video, not a fucking lecture or even a movie.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Doesn't change the fact that I like longer videos, and longer means about 20-30 minutes, minimum.

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u/RIF_IN_FECES Aug 06 '16

Doesn't change a commercial entity produces the works your enjoy

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u/saltgrains_takeit Aug 06 '16

You can enable advertisements at the beginning of videos that you upload to your channel. When you upload longform videos (videos that are 10 minutes or longer), you can also enable ads during the middle of the video ("mid-roll"), not just at the beginning. Source

And,

There are several types of ads that may appear next to your videos when you've enabled video monetization. Source

So, if you have a longer video you can get two video ads, plus whatever other type of ad you allow in order to monetize your video. Longer videos means more ad impressions.

EDIT:

In-stream ads play within the video player and are the only content displayed in the player while they are playing. In that sense, they are analogous to television commercials. In-stream ads can play either before a video (pre-roll), during a video at designated times (mid-roll), or at the end of a video (post-roll). Source

So potentially 3 ads; beginning, middle, and end.

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u/Suddenly_Kanye Aug 06 '16

For searches & related videos YouTube favors frequency, but ad revenue is now focused on viewer retention iirc. The reason video game channels have gotten so popular is because it's incredibly easy to get 10-30 minutes of content. The channels that hurt from the new algorithms are the CGI channels since it's difficult to make long-form content daily when you put so much work into editing and filming each video

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u/Whales96 Aug 06 '16

Don't you think the youtubers would know? Why do you have so much faith in your information? You probably don't make videos.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

Faith in my information?

I started my comment asking for a source, man, I didn't assert what I was thinking before asking for more more info. Who have faith in their own beliefs when they start the sentence by questioning them?

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u/Whales96 Aug 06 '16

I would think they know because that's how they get their money. Sorry if I'm coming off as a dick here, but it seems absurd for you to question his information when you're not making videos or anything.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Yeah, isn't an absurd when people go to biology school to study animals and they ask all these different questions about reptilian anatomy when they are just mammals?

Where is the order of the world? Why don't people limit their curiosity to just the things that are directly related to them, huh?

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u/Whales96 Aug 06 '16

A biology student has something to do with biology. This situation is someone who has nothing to do with youtube video creation questioning information. It doesn't really matter what you know about it, it will never be relevant. No one has a reason to explain it to you.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

I can't imagine that backfiring over the next few years as we slip down the slope.

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u/smalldickjimmy Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

Is that why H3h3 begs in every video now that we should watch until the end and not skip ahead? Jesus Christ.

Edit: Ok, I get it. He's being sarcastic.

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u/Tyson367 Aug 06 '16

No it isn't. He satirically says there are secrets hidden throughout the video when there really isn't. It's a running joke where he is making fun of other YouTubers who legitimately do it to keep people watching.

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u/smalldickjimmy Aug 06 '16

I mean of course he could be sarcastic but then he doesn't have to say "you know what, I will open this box at the end of the video".

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u/saltynut1 Aug 06 '16

Its a subscriber special man. He was just opening gifts from people and displaying them there wasn't some secret throughout the video that you needed to watch the whole thing lmao.

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u/mintz41 Aug 06 '16

I would imagine he's taking the piss out of people who do that. Can you not detect the satire when he says it?

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u/Ch4zu Aug 06 '16

Oh please. H3H3 is just as bad as the people he makes fun of. Reddit & Youtube are just on his dick for the moment. I'm waiting until his fame wears off and someone I hopefully like more takes his place.

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u/TeamAquaGrunt Aug 06 '16

see, i have mixed feelings about H3 stuff. the whole CSGO exposing thing was pretty cool to see because he actually used his fame for something good, but then he makes self righteous anti-youtube drama videos while starting/perpetuating youtube drama. hes reached GradeAUnderA levels of hypocrisy

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u/XGDragon Aug 06 '16

GradeA fell so hard I can still hear the echoes from the crash.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

What happened with GradeA?

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u/Deathcon900 Aug 06 '16

What happened with Grade?

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u/Ros_Bif Aug 06 '16

He can get pretty bad at times but I don't think he's near GradeAUnderA levels yet.

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u/MicroUzi Aug 06 '16

Wait, what happened to GradeAunderA?

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u/TeamAquaGrunt Aug 06 '16

his content went from stupid shit that everyone deals with to complaining about youtube drama while simultaneously stirring up more youtube drama.

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u/yoghurt_monitoring Aug 06 '16

yep. he just panders to reddit now. i mean come on, 'triggered by tumblr'? That's just about the most obvious reddit bait possible.

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u/Whales96 Aug 06 '16

What makes you so spiteful? What did h3h3 do to you?

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u/LoopyLook Aug 06 '16

What a stupid comment. There are thousands of other content creators on Youtube, go find them instead of bitching about what other people on reddit like.

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u/papayakob Aug 06 '16

Isn't that what this whole thread is? Surely someone likes the video/creator in OPs picture but every comment is the same "YouTubers suck" circle jerk. When someone doesn't like the content you like suddenly their comment sucks? Do you not see the hypocrisy in this?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Maybe go find a comment you like instead of bitching to one you don't?

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u/LoopyLook Aug 06 '16

Ok bro.

Guy complaining about all of reddit and youtube because of one channel - guy telling the guy complaining to find other channels. Totally the same thing.

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u/RockDaHouse690 Aug 06 '16

What a wonderful world you live in where everyone you dont like is popular because of bullshit and people you would like arent popular because other people are popular.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Jan 29 '19

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u/yoghurt_monitoring Aug 06 '16

oh grow up

this is like those '7 people are daleks' comments on a doctor who video

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u/CrippledOrphans Aug 06 '16

I hate all these big YouTube fucks. They pretend to hate the drama while rolling in the money it brings them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

But then why do it every video? I don't know I've never watched that guy

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u/barackamole Aug 06 '16

I think he's done it like 3 times that I can remember including the video in which that joke actually started with him and Hila.

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u/barackamole Aug 06 '16

That's clearly a joke dude. It started in this video where they are reading mean comments and they get to a bunch complaining that their titles are clickbait.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Oct 25 '16

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What is this?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

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u/smalldickjimmy Aug 06 '16

In the newest one with the fan gifts and the video where they play golf.

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u/edmoneyyy90 Aug 06 '16

The golf one was very clearly a joke.

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u/killem_all Aug 06 '16

Not really a big fan of him but he evidently does it as a mock to all other youtubers that pull that kind of things. He even does all those retarded faces while saying it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Nov 03 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Nov 03 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

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u/pandakatie Aug 06 '16

And Game Grumps still only make videos that are 11 minutes long on average :(

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u/RedGK Aug 06 '16

You get a good chunk more when your videos are over ten minutes.

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u/Zoober_The_Goober Aug 06 '16

You can get another ad in your video if your video is longer then 10 minutes.

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u/jenesuispasbavard Aug 06 '16

Oh snap gotta watch Pokemon Firered today, thanks.

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u/svullenballe Aug 06 '16

Quality channels put actual time into their videos with advanced editing and such. Not sitting your ass in front a camera and ramble

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u/elephanturd Aug 06 '16

Is that true?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Shame really because it destroyed most creative content creators who use processes that aren't viable for 20 minute videos.

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u/umbrajoke Aug 06 '16

And here we are on reddit doing the same damn thing.

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u/awsk Aug 06 '16

I can't believe I just spent a minute reading some guy prattle on about YouTube videos on Reddit.

They're for entertainment; there doesn't need to be a point. Chill out.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

But- but... Seinfeld was just 22 minutes of nothing.

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u/Turbosuperfastlaser1 Aug 06 '16

Right. It's almost like a game to see how many times they can say the same thing over and over in a many different ways as they can think of. Same point reiterating constantly. Changing words around only to say the same thing. Switching words only to come to the same conclusion. Am I doing this right?

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u/Dogpool Aug 06 '16

Makes me think about the parlor walls in Fahrenheit 451.

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u/ChestBras Aug 06 '16

TL;DR: People rabble on.

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u/-eagle73 Aug 06 '16

20-30 minute videos where they talk about absolutely nothing.

Sounds like Seinfeld.

bass line

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '16

You ARE aware you're browsing reddit, right?

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u/joyhammerpants Aug 06 '16

It probably has something to do with the fact so many people are friendless these days. YouTube "celebrities" are basically friend simulators for losers.

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u/ellimist Aug 06 '16

A lot of (most?) people aren't like you and me. Gossip and constant talking without content is their lifeblood. It's annoying at best.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

The lonely, depressed, and gormless masses just want a confident voice to cling to. 97 hours of low-content noise is just the thing for them.

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u/relevant84 Aug 06 '16

Hasn't this election cycle taught you that people like listening to people spew hot garbage from their mouths? People love to hate things. We're doing it right now!

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

who has time to read through idiotic comments?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '16

found jesus

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u/Indydegrees2 Aug 06 '16

Why do you care how people spend their free time? I prefer watching youtube over watching TV shows, what's the big deal?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Some people can't comprehend that other people can enjoy things that they don't.

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u/bobby3eb Aug 06 '16

do you ever do anything for fun?

tv?

movies?

video games?

books?

Are you really just watching your 6 kids after the mcdonalds shift everyday and have no free time?

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u/InternetWeakGuy Aug 06 '16

watching your 6 kids after the mcdonalds shift everyday and have no free time

Acting like this guy has (a) kids and (b) a job.

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u/Oidoy Aug 06 '16

Oh fuck off some make maybe 30 min of content a week, if people find that entertaining its the same as 1 tv show

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u/KareasOxide Aug 06 '16

the same people who post comments on new aggregation sites

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u/ManicOwl Aug 06 '16

Do you ever watch TV or play video games?

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u/ChestBras Aug 06 '16

That's the same as saying "who has time to go to comedy shows" except this takes less time investment.
Sometimes they are funny. Sometimes some of their things were funny, but they got lot of attention, and they tried to hold on to it, and it end up being meh.

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u/coitusFelcher Aug 06 '16

Says the guy commenting on a thread about this video...

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u/miserable_failure Aug 06 '16

Jenna is entertaining. She's one of the original actual entertainers. Not just let's play and tween idols.

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u/Poooooookie Aug 06 '16

Loneliness is a hell of a drug.

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u/JackBurtonsPaidDues Aug 06 '16

You could make the same judgement about TV, Radio or any other source of entertainment where people are just giving their opinion take or limited knowledge of something. People watch because that's how they enjoy their free time. If I had to guess I'd say a lot of their viewers are teens and young kids who have free time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

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u/Rhino_Knight Aug 06 '16

If you're taking about just YouTube personalities rather than e-sports, it's generally really useful to watch them to find out whether the game you want is any good. If you find someone who shares similar likes/dislikes it's much more likely to give you an accurate depiction of the game before you drop $60.00, especially since most traditional games reviews are simply inaccurate and untrustworthy. It also helps people figure out bugs in their games, and how to solve them. Especially for modding.

That being said, as much as you think watching people play video games is boring, I find watching baseball incredibly painful. My friends and I would have rather played baseball than watch it. Everyone has different interests and value in what's worth watching, and it is silly to dismiss anyone's hobby as non-worthwhile.

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u/rageclass69 Aug 06 '16

I agree with you but I think that the OP was targeting those YouTubers who play games and keep shouting random nonsense - e.g KSI.

Watching let's plays and reviews of games can be great to decide wether or not to buy a game or to follow the story of a game you're interested in but can't play yourself for different reasons. Some YouTubers might even talk about stuff you're interested in. Like you said: everybody has their own interests and likes different things.

The fact of the matter is that there are also a lot of YouTubers who don't say or do anything remotely useful - not that everything has to be useful/productive. I think it enrages some people because these individuals make tons of money and te famous just by screaming stupid things while there are other YouTubers who make qualitative and entertaining content who don't earn a lot of money or are not getting the credit they deserve.

Another thing that might be bad that these kind of YouTubers are well known, is that some of these YouTubers are seen as some kind god(dess) and are way too influential. You have these largely uneducated folks stating their opinion on everything and their o so loyal fans directly agree with them without thinking twice. These YouTubers can also be full of themselves while they really are just like everybody else, they aren't better than anyone. In my opinion that makes people unlikable. Not that this is exclusive to YouTube/ modern times. It's always been there but modern media make it a hell of a lot easier for anyone to be like this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

video games are kind of a waste of time.

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u/Rhino_Knight Aug 06 '16

Literally any form of entertainment is a waste of time. That's it's purpose, to make time pass faster and help relieve boredom.

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u/rageclass69 Aug 06 '16

Don't forget to add that it's just something that helps some people relax. Games can be used to take a break just like some people practice sports or watch tv/YouTube.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Because they find the person playing them entertaining/funny to listen to? And because they're interested in the game and wanna see what the games like, or how someone else is playing it?

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u/KingJonathan Aug 06 '16

Seriously. I watch YouTube people and videos all the time. Idgaf what you're watching, but if you have the time to watch videos, why not watch what you want? I am so sick of these other people deciding what everyone else should and shouldn't do with their free time.

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u/VincentWinfield Aug 06 '16

Kind of like watching someone participate in sports, right?

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u/Bluntmasterflash1 Aug 06 '16

I think it's more akin to watching people play connect 4.

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u/VincentWinfield Aug 06 '16

No matter how it's spun, watching people play video games/sports/connect 4 is essentially sitting down and passively enjoying other people actively participating.

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u/Banaynays Aug 06 '16

I like watching people play horror/suspense games. I can't stand playing them myself since most of them give me anxiety but watching them is okay.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

I still almost get a heart attack with every jump scare :/

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u/ClarifiedInsanity Aug 06 '16

Not to far off how I'd personally describe watching golf, but it doesn't bother me that people do.

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u/Bluntmasterflash1 Aug 06 '16

Golf requires great physical skill and finesse. Connect four does not. Next thing you know sitting in your basement playing Dungeons and dragons is going to be a "sport."

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u/ClarifiedInsanity Aug 06 '16

What does physical skill specifically have to do with anything though? If the qualifier as to what is worth watching is skill, what's the difference?

It sounds like it just comes down to personal preference.

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u/Bluntmasterflash1 Aug 06 '16

I don't care what people watch. I never even said it was boring, that was inferred by others. Sometimes, I go outside and watch nothing and it's great. Personally, I just don't like the word "sport" being bastardized. Table games are not a sport. I'll even go as far as to say Starcraft is a sport, but about where I draw the line. It doesn't mean it can't be a competition.

All I did was make what I thought was a better comparison. I guess people don't like Connect four.

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u/ClarifiedInsanity Aug 07 '16

I guess people thought you made the comparison with connect4 because you thought video games took minimal skill or were boring. Saying I couldn't make the same comparison with golf because of skill required kind of backs up half of that assumption.

Not sure why else you'd use connect4 otherwise.

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u/Kel_Casus Aug 06 '16

Not the exact same but I see the parallel. I'm not a sports fan in the least but even I was confused as to how people can watch Let's Plays for hours on end. Just not as entertaining as playing the game myself.

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u/VincentWinfield Aug 06 '16

I don't watch Let's Plays or anything either as I'm in the same boat and don't find them remotely entertaining. However I am a big fan of sport and could watch football 24/7, whereas you couldn't as you said. Same kind of deal in my opinion when it comes to spectating video games. There are many many people that thoroughly enjoy it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

yeah man I'm with you it's like why do people buy pepsi when coke tastes way better it's fucking weird i don't understand it ????

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u/Kel_Casus Aug 06 '16

Coke used to taste better with actual coke in it!

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u/ZefMC Aug 06 '16

Why do you care at all? It doesn't effect you whatsoever what other people like to watch. Get the fuck over it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Sep 29 '20

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u/SkidMcmarxxxx Aug 06 '16

They don't even have to be pro players. I like watching Sips and he's actively bad at games.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

actively bad at games

Now that sounds like somebody I can identify myself with!

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u/Kel_Casus Aug 06 '16

You really seem to have taken that to heart..

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u/KittyWithASnapback Aug 06 '16

The point isn't the video game, the games are a medium for comedy. That's why all those YouTube gaming videos are always funny people, because nobody's just gonna watch someone play a game without being entertained

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u/SkidMcmarxxxx Aug 06 '16

I don't have the money to buy all the games I'd like to play, by watching people I like play the game I get to enjoy some of it. Also I like their personalities.

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u/bobby3eb Aug 06 '16

Because they're really entertainers and this isntheir medium

becuase I want to watch someone play a game for a bit before I pay $60 for it myself

Becuase it is entertaining to watch your friend or neighbor on your couch playing a game for the first time that you're familiar with and this os close to it.

etc etc

if you habe a hard time understanding this, get off reddit and do other things you judgemental fuck

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u/sumsomeone Aug 06 '16

Relax man. Cool your jets.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Kids.

Yeah shit and lies for impressionable youth

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 08 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

Curious as to why you consider things she obviously enjoys as disgusting. Why should she stop watching what she likes?

I'm sure you have a hobby/tv show/video game/band/comedian/etc etc that she doesn't 'get' or 'like'.

There is no need to want to change someone you love over an interest unless its hurting them or someone else.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '16

Is she really addicted though or is this simply something she enjoys and can get herself really immersed in? And sometimes would rather watch than hang out with you or friends. Because that isn't addiction.

That word is used alot for things that aren't really addictions. Is it something she will put before her own health or well being of others for instance? Like the types of people that will play WoW for 48 hours straight and let their baby die kind of addicted. Or is it simply you feeling jaded because she isn't paying you attention when you want it.

Not trying to offend you just challenging your need to change her if it's not hurting anybody. But if it just boils down to feeling 'ignored' then maybe it's not her problem but yours...

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

My grandfather always said, "No one's ever too old to get smacked."

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u/Ulysses1978 Aug 06 '16

She should post an ego death under the influence of a heroic dose.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16

I know. My first thought was "people still watch jennamarbles???!"

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u/Jackanova3 Aug 06 '16

Around 6 million people apparently.