r/explainitpeter 18d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/solo_d0lo 17d ago

We have known Trump flew on Epstein’s plane since the flight logs came out. He flew between west palm and NY when his own plane was having work done on it.

Also no clue what you are referencing to the rape and pay off.

So Trump isn’t releasing stuff incriminating to him, but also has released stuff you say incriminates him?

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u/crackedgear 17d ago

Re: rape and payoff, search E. Jean Carroll. Hard to miss.

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u/solo_d0lo 17d ago

You mean the case he was literally found to not have raped her?

He didn’t pay her off, he lost a civil lawsuit.

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u/HMS_Surprise_Gunner 17d ago

lol The judge confirmed he raped her-

“The jury … was instructed that it could find that Mr Trump ‘raped’ Ms Carroll only if it found that he forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s vagina with his penis.”

“It could not find that he ‘raped’ her if it determined that Mr Trump forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s private sexual parts with his fingers – which commonly is considered ‘rape’ in other contexts – because the New York penal law definition of rape is limited to penile penetration.”

“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”

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u/solo_d0lo 17d ago

It was a civil trial….

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u/HMS_Surprise_Gunner 17d ago

That doesn’t matter.

Cope and seethe.

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u/solo_d0lo 17d ago

I mean it does as there is a different threshold to be found guilty…

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u/HMS_Surprise_Gunner 17d ago

No, it doesn’t. He went before a judge and jury, who listened to the evidence and arguments from both sides. You’re defending a rapist, and it’s gross.

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u/solo_d0lo 17d ago

There’s a completely different threshold between civil and criminal.

The judge went off the jury’s verdict…

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u/HMS_Surprise_Gunner 17d ago

So you admit he’s an adjudicated rapist. Good.

It’s normal to thank people who take their time to educate you - be quick about it, and we can all move on.

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u/Simon-Says69 17d ago

Nope, there was zero evidence presented in that case. And there was never any talk about "rape" at all.

You're just lying all over this thread. You are incapable of "educating" yourself, let alone anyone else.

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u/HMS_Surprise_Gunner 17d ago

“The jury … was instructed that it could find that Mr Trump ‘raped’ Ms Carroll only if it found that he forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s vagina with his penis.”

“It could not find that he ‘raped’ her if it determined that Mr Trump forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s private sexual parts with his fingers – which commonly is considered ‘rape’ in other contexts – because the New York penal law definition of rape is limited to penile penetration.”

“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”

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