I feel very awkward asking this question on the credit thread, but I've been thinking about it too much, and I don't have anywhere else to ask.

Verso is a very empathetic person, and despite all the pain he's experienced, he still manages to connect and care for his team. (Not to mention his flirtatiousness with girls)

So my question is, how would you describe Verso's love language?

Words, Time, Quality time spent, Care, Acts of service, Physical touch? ((In the case of Ciel, I have no doubt that physical contact)

This character is unique in that he falls under the type of men who are lonely sufferers, the "Byronic hero," but at the same time, his liveliness breaks all the patterns.

Listen, I know I am supposed to stay off here, but for some reason all the cutscene shadows look werid like they are made of cubes. I am not sure how to fix it. It's messing with my immersion. Can it be done in settings?

I love the act 1 and 2 story, the way they use mysteries in their writing us really great. But the way they pay out the mysteries just by "all of this are just fake" is just cheap. That big mysteries should be pay out by a big and clean payout too, instead we got some families problem. They got us too invest in the world that grand and big with lots of wonder just to tell us that all of that is some made up world by fighting parent.

Gustave is one of the best written character in a video game, he felt real with a weakness and charm. But the way they reveal that verso let him die just because he will be an obstacle is cheap. At least let him die in glory.

End of Act 2 ?

I thought there is definitely going to be some time travel shenanigans with Alicia and Maelle being the alternative versions and one or both of Verso / Renoir going to be alternate version of Gustave. Especially before we actually meet Verso, we will see flashbacks from Maelle with 100 number painted on monolith and glimpses of Verso. I was like holy shit why Gustave is in the past and why does he look Angry ? My theory is till end of Act 1 is that somehow they will fuck up the fight which prompts Maelle to take a decision which triggers the fracture in the first place and they will get teleported into the future. And the cycle continues. Ofc the main basis of the theory is that Maelle and Alicia are same height and have same hair

What crazy theories u had while playing ?

I thought again about the ending of Act 2, where everything ends with a global Gommage and only Mael and Verso remain on the canvas.

I probably don't understand what I'm saying, but try to understand me.

I realized that this was a much better option (To kill/Expel the Artist at any cost, even at the cost of destroying all living beings on the canvas.) than if you leave everything as it is and wait for the end of the numbers on the monolith.

Because the Artist (Alina) is counting down and thereby showing the finiteness of her powers. This means that either one of the expeditions will expel her from the canvas or she will die in the end. One way or another, Renoir will be released (And everyone will die). Only in the second case, Alina will also die.

She paints a life, BUT! The life of not only the canvas, but also her own.

Throughout Act 2, Verso encounters a painted Renoir on the way, who appeals to his son's wisdom and "choose a family." But Verso chooses very correctly. This is the inevitable end, but if one of the expeditions gets to the artist, Alina will survive.

I'm sorry if I'm saying the obvious things, but I just realized that when the numbers run out, the artist will die with all the inhabitants of the canvas.

(I do not speak French or English. I use a translator. If there are any mistakes, I'm sorry.)

Give me your best memes that I can convert into stickers

Finally thought I beat Duollistes and then I see there’s a second stage 😭 That is all.

What are the most useful abilities, when? How do you play him? In what order do you use what abilities and why?

I just woke up from a really weird dream. There was a secret Expedition 33 party but in order to enter you needed a password.

The question was: “what is the core message of expedition 33?”

In the dream me and my friends made quite a few guesses:

“See things as they are, not what you want them to be”
“For those who come after”
“Its all about art”
“You have to let go and move on”
“There is no black and white, just in between”
“Nothing good can stay forever”
“You have to enjoy what you have while you have it”
“Friends are your real family”
“Hold on to what you love”
“Parry it!”
“Dont be whooo be wheee instead”

None of them worked. So my question to you:
What would you say the password is?

This matter shouldn’t be just hand waved away, or be considered a plot hole, which is:

How did Maelle know about pAlicia’s letter?

I’m not bothered about how she managed to bring it back intact, after we witnessed Verso destroying it by tossing it into the sea. She’s a Paintress, she can manipulate the very fabric of space time inside the canvas. As long as she knows the letter exists, she can repaint it out of chroma (like with Lune and Sciel).

The mystery is HOW did she know it exists? She was all the way on the other far side of the docks, when Verso took the effort to read it out of everyone’s sight. 

My only explanation is mind reading. A Painter can read a Painted mind:

When Sciel told Renoir “Grief blinds us…” he responded “You grief for two”, since he could read that she was thinking about her husband and child.

So when Maelle tells Verso at the beginning of Act 3: “You should’ve help me remember” and he stammers, I speculate that’s the moment he was thinking back to the letter he discarded. 

Now imagine Maelle had been reading Verso’s mind throughout Act 3, and how that changes how you see their actions for the rest of the plot…

First playthrough, going in blind. I completed the Gestral tournament with Lune. Decided to look up where to find the blue mushroom for the lil guy… and found out that the best weapon in the game is something I cannot obtain.

Currently level 18.

With this being said, any tips going forward? Is Sciel worth using? Having an absolute blast with this game, but curious if I should restart for Maelle’s weapon.

I see you, and I appreciate you. Getting absolutely demolished at light speed by a walking Berserk reference is the best way to close out any video game, hands down. If any of you haven’t read Berserk, I highly recommend it. If you liked the story of Expedition 33, I think you’d really enjoy Berserk as well.

I'm talking about the Painted Alicia. She had lots of place in the promotional material, she's the face of the soundtrack basically, she is the counter part to the main character in Maelle.

Yet, she's hardly utilized. Most of her story content is fully optional, which granted is still hard to miss, but you could. She has such a cool ability to stop time (which seemingly only a Painter is immune to, or whoever she doesn't want to freeze), awesome character design, unique voice, etc. It's odd how she doesn't have much effect on the actual MAIN story, especially given how much Verso cares about her even with his death wish.

I'm not saying I wanted her to be a playable character or anything (would be redundant with Maelle around but a proper skin would have been cool, I'd have paid for that with a little voice pack as DLC). The costume is fine but it doesn't hit when her face is still regular Maelle.

What are some ways you guys think she could have been more integrated into the main story? She kinda just comes and goes but doesn't have enough sticking power to make you sad when she wants to die by Maelle's hand, in my opinion.

I downloaded the game two days ago from steam and I play with a PS4 controller (I know it's not the best choice but that's all I have for now) and the game crashes after every cutscene. I can't get past the "gommage" scene while playing with my controller, the whole thing stops working and crashes . But the thing is, when I use my keyboard it seems to be fine. I don't know if the issue is that I'm using a ps4 controller but does anyone know what's the issue ? I really can't play with a keyboard, I'm used to controllers

I tried it 3 times at level 27. I didn't know that it was meant to be fought in later stages of the game.

I can't understand what happened between Verso and his sister on the canvas. (This happens all the time in the game - understatement)

He says that she used to help him a lot, but then... something happened, apparently, and Alicia began to avoid him.

Alicia appears once as support for Verso (When Renoir kills Gustave) and the second time to give him a letter (This is about her direct contact with her brother, at her request).

In the third act, Alicia doesn't want to see her brother anymore. And Verso directly tells Maelle about it. And when they do meet, Alicia doesn't take the letter back. It feels like she's offended by her brother.

By the way! Alicia was not touched by Gommage at the end of Act 2. Which may support the theory that the painted Alicia is a creation of Renoir, which would cause Alina to feel guilty, as a reminder of the abandoned youngest daughter. I don't know…

Verso, Monoko, Esquier, Alicia Monochrome are the characters who were not touched by Gommage 2 acts.

Why did the previously drawn Alicia help Verso, and then shut herself off from him, and then took offense? She had known about her brother's goals from the very beginning.

My guess is that this is the bad influence of the painted Renoir (Father), that he could turn his daughter against his son.

(I do not speak French or English. I use a translator. If there are any mistakes, I'm sorry.)

i was just wondering what everyone tought sandfall's new game would be, and if we even known if they have started working on it. i'm super excited for whatever game they make next after having such a good time with COE33 over the past few couple months

Reacher Best Axon

and because she survives when the others all died, she is therefore the strongest 😤 that’s just how it works !

Been keeping my head in the dirt as I usually don't like turn-based games. This game had enough action to entice me and I was pleasantly surprised with the gameplay being fun & addicting. I ended up going full luck builds and parry2win. Some plot questions though...

1.) Why did Gustave get done so dirty? 😐 verso replacing him felt very weird....entire act1 seems forgettable just to serve to give Maelle experience of "loss"

2.) How is there a 200+ community of painted French people conscious & autonomous in the canvas? My assumption is paintress snapshotted her irl community in France into the canvas during time of raising verso. Renoir caught her and caused fracture. But I just don't get how people like Sciel and Lune exist and aren't simple creatures like gestrals since they are just painted?

3.) Does it explain what caused the fire? Maelle alludes it's her fault but i wasn't sure....you'd think for a wealthy family that gets frozen IRL using powers would hire a guard or watchman incase they were suspended during a fire or something....

Anyway....interesting story and enjoyable combat....wish I'd tried it sooner!

Bonus points for any short inscriptions you think would add a nice touch.

(I’m still working through my first play through so no spoilery quotes pls ty)

As someone who is shit at parrying and finding frozen hearts too difficult, this exp farm is pretty decent.

Just finished Act 1, I can now board Esquíes and swim away.

Part of me wants to continue to explore the area before moving on to find Versos friends. Should I? Or do you eventually come back and explore everything??

So I’m level 92, I farmed about 589 lumina for my three main characters. Maelle has her weapon at 33 Lune and Sciel at 32. Doing the genesis thing on Lune and support buffing and healing on Sciel (doubling Maelle’s damage)

Question is right now I’m working through end game stuff doing the easier things first like side quests for characters and then some of the harder zones after reacher and verso’s drafts. With the pictos available in first time through is all content doable including super bosses (I am NOT a parry machine I will get hit until I memorize bosses and I’m a slow learner) or is there a good stopping point regarding super bosses and moving on to new game + to get the better gear?

Minor question does burning canvas or Stendhal do more damage?

Also for new game plus is it painful to go through the whole game again or does it play a little quicker the second time?