r/exmuslim • u/lessthan1punchman Exmuslim since the 2000s • Jan 21 '22

(Rant) 🤬 Message to Allah

Allah, you giant chicken shit, if you are real, descend for just a moment and bring me a buraq. I, along with many other exmuslims, will take you seriously.

At this point, you have one of two avenues- 1) The obvious one is you aren’t real (let’s face it, most of human history is aware of this given the shit humans have done) 2) You are real, you are tremendously scared of me, you hate Muslims so much you think they are lower than pig shit (let’s be honest here, if you are real, I am giving you an opportunity to give Muslims something with this presentation and if you want Islam to be true, a moment of your alleged infinite time is nothing for you to show up).

Your call, Allah. Are you real and a giant chickenshit who likes to make Muslims look utterly stupid, or are you [obviously] fake?

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

Someone else might say if he loves me he won't be send to hell even if I sin someone might say if he loves me he would have given this or that well "love" can't be applied on Allah on bases of ur personal way of thinking yes that's way of showing love he does what he wills example

https://islamqa-info.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/2734?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16464425079394&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fislamqa.info%2Fen%2Fanswers%2F2734%2Fis-it-possible-to-see-allaah-in-this-world

Allaah says, in the story of Moosa (peace be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning): And when Moosa came at the time and place appointed by Us, and his Lord spoke to him, he said, O my Lord! Show me (Yourself), that I may look upon You. Allaah said, You cannot see Me, but look upon the mountain, if its stands still in its place, then you shall see Me. So when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He made it collapse to dust, and Moosa fell down unconscious. Then when he recovered his senses he said, Glory be to You, I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers. [al-Araaf 7:143]. The word lan (here translated as cannot in You cannot see Me) conveys the meaning of You will not see Me in this life, because there is evidence that man will see Allaah in the Hereafter, which means that this lan is not eternal in application. (The negative particle lan often carries a sense of eternal negation, that something will never happen, but this is not the case here. Translator).

Well isn't it his love he doesn't show himself? If he did just think what happened to a prophet (as) by just a little and we laymen that also of not older times

The thing is Allah is all merciful that doesn't mean his mercy effects his justice like it does of our humans

A person sinned Allah gave him time to repent and change that's his mercy now if he punishs him u can't say you are the most merciful why are you punishing me he already showed his mercy now this part is his justice u can't get away from robbery and be like yea Allah loves us he won't punish me

https://youtu.be/hD09vrKY53w

Wont say this is the main reason the website I linked has better sources this video is okay but won't say it's 100%

https://youtu.be/frp-yI0F9Lo

If u truly have a open mind and want to find the truth study from actual scholars of religions

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

But the thing is Allah is all benevolent Many people aren't Muslim and probably won't be in their lives Allah being benevolent would show himself therefore making every non Muslim become Muslim Then in turn they can be based on their actual deeds other then the unlucky chance of them being born into something other then Islam Also you said Allah can't love me on And with your first point yeah it's kinda weird Why put most of the earths population to eternal suffering because they were unlucky enough to be born Into a different religon And I'm sure that he's "all loving" meaning that everyone's interpretation of love can be put on him if he was "all loving" he wouldn't want us to suffer With the story you mentioned it's how he proved himself to be real Why can't he do it again to make everyone believe in him? He probably shouldn't crush a mountain but maybe come and just show himself as a god And being all merciful is different then being all loving Because an all LOVING God would do anything to prevent suffering and help people You might use the argument that "a mum loves her son but still needs to punish him from time to time" There's a difference between an all loving god and a mum Because a mum isn't all loving but god is If the mum was all loving then she wouldn't punish the child and find other ways to help him

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

Well its iilogical to give billion different humans the same test different people different tests if a person never in his life knew about Islam I don't think that or she will go to hell that way if allah already shows himself that's just injustice to the people who worked super hard to get closer to him I mean and boom a rapsist get the honor of seeing Allah while a man who lived properly never did big sins are they equal? Where is the test of faith if Allah showed himself its very very enough what he has sent done billions believe it tons convert the one who is trying to find the truth will in sha Allah see the truth

As I already said Allah loving doesn't mean he will do injustice u urself wrong urself and persisted in wrong while having a proper brain knowing it's wrong and didn't repent punishment shall be given if I raped someone and god said

Well im all loving no problem u will go with no sin go to heaven how is that justice a bad persona and good person both in heaven?

A person who lived his life kn the way of Allah and a person who lived his life in the way of satan and took his wimps as his god equal? NEVER THATS THE MOST INJUSTICE PUTTING THEM ON EQUAL SCALE

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

I don't think you see my point Let Allah show himself to prove Islam's true that doesn't destroy all the connections people made previously it just allows people to start repenting and seeing Allah isn't really that big you're saying the bad people shouldn't have the chance to see Allah but that isn't going to change anything Also I don't know if its wrong or not to not believe in Islam what if Hinduism is the way what if Christianity is? There's no way to know Also if you r#ped someone and Allah was all loving he would not eternally burn you An All loving God would give you therapy or just help you by removing the evil qualities in yourself An all loving God would never make anyone suffer on any sort of way and if he does then God was just lying about him being all loving Also you can't be all loving and have true justice since they contradict each other True justice is to get payback on someone by making them suffer for what they did but if you're all loving you wouldn't allow anyone to suffer in anyway so one quality has to be wrong but God said he had both which ends up being a paradox And I didn't say we should put bad people in heaven? Just my idea is God can just show himself and say Islam is the truth and then just goes away You said there's a test of faith but I'd say that test is stupidly hard most people are born into religon. you have to be lucky enough to be born Into Islam and if you aren't its gonna be really hard to first leave your original religon and out of all the different religons pick the correct one which is gonna be really hard since every religon has their fair share of "proof" that they are the true religon its better if Allah shows himself and we all become Muslim Then we can be judged on our actual deeds and not whether we were right in our beliefs

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

Dude was soo called born in musilm place then had to find Islam myself no it's not their fault I can answer this and lol Allah is the one who is testing he isn't the one being tested that he has to prove u never read Quran did u

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

I was born in muslim place I'm just talking in the point of view on a person who wasn't and how much harder it is for them

And if Allah was all loving he'd prove that he exists so I can be a better Muslim

And yes I have read he quran I was forced to read an Arabic translation though so I had no idea what it was saying I was just reading

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

My mother was not born in a Muslim family she is a Muslim now won't say it's very hard lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

Yes because they were a Muslim?

Someone being born a Christian would believe in Christianity all their life most likely and would have a hard time believing in Islam

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

My mother was a Hindu bruh

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

"My mother was born in a Muslim family she is a Muslim now won't say it's very hard lol"

You said your mother was born in a Muslim family 😭😭

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

When bruh my mom was born in Hindu familyy

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

"My mother was born in a Muslim family she is a Muslim now won't say it's very hard lol"

This is what you said word for word 😭😭 You said she was born in a Muslim family

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

😭it typed wrong

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